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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Jun 2 2009, 7:53pm
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'Nother lawsuit update
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According to news reports, the court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs on both motions, but reserved the right to reconsider the motion to bifurcate. This means that the trial is more likely than ever to proceed on October 19 as scheduled.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
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Compa_Mighty
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Jun 2 2009, 10:11pm
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But who are the plaintiffs in this particular matter? And the bifurcation part... is that what you explained about the problem essentially being split in two, one part being the breach of contract and the other the owed money, which essentially could save The Hobbit's rights from being retired?
Sorry, it's just that by round 25 ther have been so many changes that I am having trouble keeping up.
Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!
Essay winner of the Show us your Hobbit Pride Giveway!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Jun 2 2009, 10:33pm
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The plaintiffs in the case are the Tolkien Trusts (represented by Christopher and the other family members) and Harper Collins (and the related publisher entities). The defendant is New Line. New Line filed two motions that were heard by the court today. The first motion was to have the jury trial scheduled for October 19 vacated and replaced by a court trial (a trial that is decided by the judge alone). That was rejected completely. The second motion was to "bifurcate" the trial so that some issues would be ruled on by the judge first, and then the rest would be tried by a jury. The judge rejected that one, too, but apparently stated that she would reconsider it further down the line. As it stands right now, the jury trial scheduled for October 19 is still on.
Is that a bit clearer?
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
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Peredhil lover
Valinor
Jun 3 2009, 5:06am
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While I understood the first post, it's good to know I did get it right 
And thank you once again for keeping us updated. Without you, I'd be completely in the dark since the early days of the lawsuit!
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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weathertop
Rohan
Jun 3 2009, 2:41pm
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now THIS is what i call an english translation of lawyese (the native tongue of those from the land of lawyer). Thanks!
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Woodyend
Gondor
Jun 3 2009, 8:38pm
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I don't know what we would do without your input and expertise.
May your beer be laid under an enchantment of surpassing excellence for seven years!
~~~~~~~~Gandalf~~~~~~~
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!
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Elven
Valinor
Jun 4 2009, 1:00pm
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Swishtail.
Tolkien was a Capricorn!!
Russell Crowe for Beorn!!
Avatar: Liberace - The other Lord of the Rings.
Quote of The Week: The thing is I always write in the morning, and I know that if I go to the Net I won’t write ... you can start in the most scholarly website and end up at Paris Hilton dot com .. GdT
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Elven
Valinor
Jun 4 2009, 1:04pm
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OOps sorry VtF - I posted below without reading this ...
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This si going to be very interesting indeed - October the 19th hmmm - we wait and see what happens between that time and on the day.
How long do you think this sort of thing may take?
Whats your opinion on what the court might decide upon as to what the judge may handle (if anything)?
Cheers
Elven x
Swishtail.
Tolkien was a Capricorn!!
Russell Crowe for Beorn!!
Avatar: Liberace - The other Lord of the Rings.
Quote of The Week: The thing is I always write in the morning, and I know that if I go to the Net I won’t write ... you can start in the most scholarly website and end up at Paris Hilton dot com .. GdT
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Jun 4 2009, 1:32pm
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A trial of this sort could last a good long time. Or it could settle on the eve of trial.
The Tolkien Library has a brief update on the lawsuit here.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 7 2009, 12:03pm
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Great explanation. I'll be the first to admit so much of this is way over my head... but this helps me to keep up with the drama. I still am flummoxed at how long all of this takes, but going through resources and preparations on both sides does take time, fersher.
Thanks again :)
"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."
~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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Very much so.
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