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'I know nothing about you other than

mae govannen
Grey Havens

Apr 20 2007, 3:39pm


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this is the only issue you want to talk about and you are constantly asking US to do something. '
What you're saying here is total astonishment for me, Magpie. What may have given you such an impression I have no idea, but it is simply not true.
I think I have participated in about all the various threads on all the new discussion boards since the end of March when I was able to join in those new boards, and I even checked systematically on all that had happened before that; as for the few discussions since then where I have only lurked on, it wasn't because I wasn't interested, but because I didn't feel competent: for those specific threads one had to be competent and knowledgeable enough, and I was not.
As for 'The Hobbit' movie, far from speaking all the time about it, I have kept on the contrary rather quiet about it until now, never mentioning it but for answering someone else's mention of it; so if you did get this feeling of harassment on this topic, it is certainly not by me!!!
Only just in these last few days I happened to read two interviews that reported the feelings of two more actors about it, and I knew some people here would be interested in reading those interviews, so I mentioned them myself in a post - without making any particular fuss about it.
This proposal of mine is actually the very first time I am inviting other people to do something about it - not because it's the only thing I think about all the time (oh my! what a strange idea!...) but because it seems to me we could do something about it now in a different way, in a different spirit, and that might be worth trying - only for those who feel concerned by that situation, obviously; the others don't need to pay any more attention to that post of mine than to any other they don't feel concerned about; that's just the normal thing on TORn discussion boards, isn't it?
So perhaps those feelings of harassment have built up in you over quite some time from seeing that topic coming up a bit too often for your taste, but to accuse me now of being the cause of that feeling is a totally baseless accusation - objectively speaking, that is.
By the way, you believe also that I am a Christian, when I am not, and have stated already in several posts that I am not; even in the proposal you incriminate, I spoke of prayers because that's what most other people relate to best, but I added good thoughts and something else I don't remember now; what I am sure of is that I emphasized the 'power of our thoughts and of the love in our hearts' , certainly not 'prayers' as such.
'I can hope that people could learn to get along together and stop killing each other.'
At least one thing we can agree on!!!
'But I feel a whole lot less comfortable petitioning a higher power for a specific act to happen. To do so would presume that we know what is best and that ITEM A would result in the perfect solution.'
Well, I didn't think I had been that specific either???
All the things you mention - rightly - after that, I am indeed not sure of at all, that is exactly why I had left it all rather open - or so I thought, but now seeing it through your eyes I see that it wasn't yet open enough, or my words didn't convey enough the necessity of keeping it open, although it was what I felt too, just like you.
I can only regret then that you didn't say these things - kindly - before, so that the intention behind what I was proposing could find a wider, truer formulation, to which you and probably some other people could have agreed.
Well, I hope this will at least dispel once and for all those wrong notions you had about me.
One thing that is a passion for me just as for you is the music for LOTR that Howard Shore has been inspired enough to compose. But I can never participate in the threads you propose about that, simply because I am not able to: so I do lurk and learn what I can from what other people say...
One of the reasons, though, why I would like PJ to do 'The Hobbit' (with or without NL) is in fact that I really long to have more of Howard's Shore's wonderful Middle-earth music to listen to... *sigh*

'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)

Subject User Time
Prayers etc needed for 'The Hobbit' movie mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 19 2007, 4:58am
    I will join you Rivendweller Send a private message to Rivendweller Apr 19 2007, 1:49pm
        Thank you for your answer so straight and simple :-) / mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 3:18am
            You are entirely welcome. :-) Rivendweller Send a private message to Rivendweller Apr 20 2007, 2:37pm
                I remember Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 2:40pm
    I think there are a lot more important things in this world... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 19 2007, 3:07pm
        Huh? Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 19 2007, 3:19pm
        Thank you. // Lossefalme Send a private message to Lossefalme Apr 19 2007, 3:45pm
        You said what I didn't want to say... Noneoftheabove Send a private message to Noneoftheabove Apr 20 2007, 3:38am
            Thank you for saying at least also mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 5:21am
        How do you know I'm not praying also for those things?... mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 5:13am
            You said very well something I had been thinking. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 1:59pm
                Thank you for those nice, encouraging words. mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 4:26pm
    Dear God, 'esquey Send a private message to 'esquey Apr 19 2007, 3:17pm
        ... and to all the other human beings who suffer horribly too mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 5:48am
    I guess one can feel blessed Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Apr 19 2007, 3:38pm
        It doesn't have to be either or, you know... mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 6:06am
            Well, mae... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Apr 20 2007, 1:48pm
                Well Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 20 2007, 2:20pm
                    On the other hand, i do pray for blessings Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 2:46pm
                        Well... Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 20 2007, 3:11pm
                            I've had personal contact too: Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 4:07pm
                                *bow of respect* Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 20 2007, 4:12pm
                                I'm speechless Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Apr 21 2007, 1:56am
                                    Yep. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 23 2007, 12:59pm
                                *applauds* Stapper Send a private message to Stapper Apr 21 2007, 9:38am
                        That's what I meant too with that proposal... / mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 3:48pm
                'I know nothing about you other than mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 3:39pm
    Well, Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 19 2007, 5:11pm
        I confess Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 19 2007, 5:39pm
            Aye... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 19 2007, 6:57pm
                I didn't articulate it well, but that's where I'm coming from. Lossefalme Send a private message to Lossefalme Apr 19 2007, 7:06pm
                Well, that solution never occurred to me. Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 19 2007, 7:17pm
        Mea culpa. Lossefalme Send a private message to Lossefalme Apr 19 2007, 5:51pm
            Agree absolutely Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 19 2007, 6:14pm
                Well said. // Lossefalme Send a private message to Lossefalme Apr 19 2007, 6:23pm
                Thank you Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 19 2007, 8:24pm
                    Thank you, Aunt Dora Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 19 2007, 8:31pm
                    Having read that beautiful poem of yours mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 1:23pm
        Nobody died... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 19 2007, 6:23pm
            Clarification... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 19 2007, 7:04pm
            Luckily for us, God may take care of ALL the fish, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 7:15am
        Well Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 19 2007, 7:34pm
            Good question... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 19 2007, 7:58pm
                We can be hamburgers. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 19 2007, 8:06pm
                LOL!... I appreciate the joke, although mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 8:54am
                    What is that old addage about assuming?... diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 20 2007, 3:07pm
                        I don't know much about English adages, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 4:08pm
                            P.S.: And as for my proposal, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 4:16pm
            Well, that's just the spirit of what I'm talking about too!!! mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 8:05am
        Thank you for this warm-hearted comment! If mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 6:44am
        Aunt Dora Baggins you're great! Arwen_Undomiel Send a private message to Arwen_Undomiel Nov 11 2009, 10:52pm
            Good heavens, that was a long time ago! Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Nov 11 2009, 11:01pm
                Well, here's another. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Nov 15 2009, 5:18am
                    That's amazing! Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Nov 15 2009, 3:33pm
    My indoctrination into atheism...sorry...Atheism DownfallenWest Send a private message to DownfallenWest Apr 20 2007, 6:51am
        Sorry, didn't get your point: mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 9:20am
            Sorry! DownfallenWest Send a private message to DownfallenWest Apr 22 2007, 8:22am
                Thank you for this nice and very helpful answer! :-) mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 5:42pm
        Well it would be half the number... Meliana Send a private message to Meliana Apr 20 2007, 12:52pm
        For real? Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 20 2007, 6:09pm
            That's a biiiig closet!// Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 6:25pm
                Yes, it is, Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 20 2007, 9:01pm
                    I'm reminded of my father Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 9:07pm
                        LOL!... Great saying!!! :-D mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 21 2007, 4:36am
                    I just thouht it was funny that you were categorizing Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 20 2007, 9:11pm
                        I knew what you meant... Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 21 2007, 2:41am
                            Hear, hear, non-theists!... :-) mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 21 2007, 4:32am
                            Thanks for your kind words. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 21 2007, 6:25pm
                                Rambling on in general..... DownfallenWest Send a private message to DownfallenWest Apr 22 2007, 9:03am
                                    My mother had the same concern... Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 22 2007, 7:51pm
                                    Replies on several fronts Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 23 2007, 1:11pm
                                    Hah! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 23 2007, 1:59pm
                                        That's a great point! Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 24 2007, 3:28am
                        *hugging Aunt Dora in a close embrace* mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 21 2007, 5:29am
            blinks a few times. Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Apr 21 2007, 6:13am
                It takes a lot of nerve Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 21 2007, 6:57am
                    My eyes have been opened a bit recently FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Apr 21 2007, 9:24am
                    I didn't know Stapper Send a private message to Stapper Apr 21 2007, 9:59am
                        Dunno. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Apr 23 2007, 2:19pm
                            I think it's both. Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 24 2007, 3:37am
                    Thanks for clarifying Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Apr 21 2007, 2:03pm
                        Thanks, FFH, Stapper, and Magpie. Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 21 2007, 5:19pm
            Depends. DownfallenWest Send a private message to DownfallenWest Apr 22 2007, 8:35am
                Interesting Radhruin Send a private message to Radhruin Apr 23 2007, 8:07am
                    It is amazing. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 23 2007, 1:18pm
                    I think it says a lot Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 24 2007, 3:39am
                        I think you're right (nt) Radhruin Send a private message to Radhruin Apr 24 2007, 4:42pm
                            Hey, I like your footer quotation! / Aerin Send a private message to Aerin Apr 24 2007, 11:22pm
                            Well, Aerin said it before me!... But mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 29 2007, 6:46am
    To all: please read my first answer to diedye, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 20 2007, 9:35am
    Have been and will continue to :) grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Apr 27 2007, 2:16pm
        Hugs to you too, dear gramma!... And mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 29 2007, 7:30am

 
 
 

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