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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 2:09am
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Has the video of Susan Boyle been posted here yet?
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I couldn't find it if it has. At any rate, it's a beautiful video clip that underscores the importance of not prejudging people:
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Laerasėa
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Apr 15 2009, 2:26am
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Omg, that was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard! The people in it irritated me a bit, even the judges at the end; I don't like it how they told her that "everyone was against her at the beginning or whatever". But her voice was stunning, and I found myself mouthing along with the words (and tearing up a little bit, too!) That was so beautiful!
Thank you, thank you for posting that!!
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Apr 15 2009, 6:57am
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I hate Simon's attitude and sense of pomposity...
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... the way he rolls his eyes and makes those idiotic faces in judging her before her performance. I admit you do get a lot of wannabes, but Susan is not a teenager trying to be cheeky and snark, she's a 47 year old woman, commonplace, humble, stepping on an international platform for the first time. He can atleast show her some respect as a person dammit!
Forgive my irritation, but I'm speaking as someone who's experienced being prejudged. I think Simon needs to be hit on his head because something seems to be loose in there. Plus, it's a bit too bloated and he's too full of himself. Sometimes I wonder if he isn't really losing it *hint: Lil Rounds is his favourite*
As for Susan, I would respect her even if she'd croaked her way through a laughing audience. Such a sweet lady with an honest to goodness personality  Come to think about it, almost the opposite of Simon (in more ways than one) 
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Apr 15 2009, 1:22pm
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I watched that last weekend and was astounded, the audience were on their feet and it was obvious that the judges were gobsmacked, that lady can sing!
Another act which had a similar reaction were a father and son "dance" combination Stavros - they were unexpectedly hilarious, Simon had also written this pair off which is obvious from his very bored expression when the act started - he was very surprised though a few seconds into it!
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Apr 15 2009, 2:12pm
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And I think the clip is a lesson to all. Because I think everybody does have somewhat the same feeling when you see Susan the first time, and all the expectation weren't too high for her. Not that I believe she is a loser or something like that, but she just looks so ordinary that you don't think she can sing so fabulous as she does. I think the lady in the jury (I don't even know her name) puts it the best to words "it was a privilege to hear Susan sing and a lesson on prejudice to all".
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 3:04pm
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Oh, thank you so much for that!
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I showed Uncle Baggins the other one last night, and he choked up and watched it twice in a row. Can't wait to show him this one. He and I met doing international folk dancing...
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 3:05pm
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for telling me about it in the first place.
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Apr 15 2009, 3:29pm
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an idiot before she sang. I hardly ever watch these shows - is he prone to being that way before most acts begin?
You described Susan's personality perfectly: sweet and honest. A plain, everyday person, with something special inside; but that describes so many people, doesn't it! 
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Elberbeth
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Apr 15 2009, 3:43pm
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That was so funny! and they looked like they were having a great time.//
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"There are some things that it is better to begin than to refuse, even though the end may be dark."
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 4:06pm
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That's one reason it's so satisfying.
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He's such a jerk, and she completely makes a fool of him, in her sweet, unassuming way. I agree, even if she couldn't sing at all, I'd still admire her so much for being such an authentic person.
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Apr 15 2009, 6:48pm
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While she certainly seemed authentic, I can't help thinking that she had plans to be the next Paul Potts, and may have deliberately dressed plainly and acted frumpy in order to follow in Paul Potts' footsteps. We eventually learned Paul Potts at one time had a budding opera career, and did not quite come out of nowhere. On the other hand, he had pretty much given up on that career when he went on the show. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Boyle has more history in music than we learned in her first appearance. Nevertheless, she certainly plays frumpy well.
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Apr 15 2009, 6:57pm
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wow, I just came to OT to check the same thing!!
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Great minds think alike.
Why does this clip make me cry so much? Here's a link with the lyrics printed. Maybe it's the combo of the lovely voice and the words of the song that fly in the face of the obvious stereotypes we all have of each other.
I think I've found my new hero. Anyone who can wipe that smarmy look off Cowell's face has my vote.
I'm definitely buying her first album.
I hope they don't dress her up too much...I like her the way she is.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 7:07pm
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No cookie for you ;-)
And no matter how she "plays", she's not a young Barbie doll, which is refreshing in itself.
I haven't followed any of this stuff, so when I heard them talking about Paul Potts, I was scratching my head and flashing back to the 1970s and thinking of the evil dictators category.
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Apr 15 2009, 7:50pm
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I dunno, here's her hometown newspaper
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She seems pretty much as she is. She sang in the church choir.
Scroll down until you get to the interview with her hometown paper. I admit I had a hard time with the accents a bit, so some of it went over my head!
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Curious
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Apr 15 2009, 8:21pm
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And I didn't mean to imply that she is a fake, any more than Potts was a fake. I have since heard that she has a learning disability and spent years caring for her ailing mother -- again, it all sounds quite touching and I don't mean to imply that it is fake. It just sounds familiar to those of us who are familiar with Potts' story -- and similar to Neil E. Boyd's story on year three of America's Got Talent as well.
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Apr 15 2009, 8:37pm
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"Don't compare me to Paul Potts... I'm much better-looking than that"
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Straight from the lady's mouth!
Singing sensation Susan Boyle sang to escape the bullies
Spinster Susan - who has never had a boyfriend - said: "I was born with a disability and that made me a target for bullies. I was called names because of my fuzzy hair and because I struggled in class.
"I told the teachers, but because it was more verbal than physical I could never prove anything. But words often hurt more than cuts and bruises and the scars are still there."
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 9:43pm
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She reminds me a bit of Temple Grandin
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who also talked about being bullied as a child (she's a professor at my alma mater whose mother refused to listen to the doctors: they said Temple should be institutionalized because she was so severely autistic.)
Tomorrow is the Day of Silence, and her comments make me think of that too.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 15 2009, 9:47pm
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I expect you've already seen this video about Downs kids doing ballet, but if not, it's a lovely story too. (When I linked to it, a couple of videos came up on the same story. The second one is especially nice.)
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 16 2009, 12:09am
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Aerin
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Apr 16 2009, 5:18am
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Nothing we haven't seen a million times in the Idol auditions -- it's part of his shtick. Once he heard her, he complimented her and gave her a yes, so what's the problem? Simon usually knows what he's talking about musically and in terms of whether someone has a realistic chance at a career in music -- more so than any of the other judges on Idol, anyway. Well, OK, so he likes Lil, but tonight he basically said he wouldn't have saved her from elimination on Idol. (But why they saved Matt I have no clue!)
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Aerin
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Apr 16 2009, 5:20am
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Yes, definitely. Actually, I thought she looked quite like Colm Meany -- oops, is that too non-PC? I don't really understand what all the fuss is about, though -- I don't care for that style of singing, and I don't think she's that special.
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They saved Matt??? I'm in India and performance night is Thursday... results night is Friday... so, well, you get the point...  Ahh, anyway, don't worry about it. Now I can bug my mom during the show with "I know what happens next" 
About Simon, I kinda have a love-hate thing goin on for him. He is after all the most honest and perceptive judge, and he tells it like it is, which is something I admire in people. On the other hand, he sometimes prejudges people, which is a personality trait I personally detest.
I know he gave Susan a yes after she sang, but what's the big deal in doing that? He had to do that right? He couldn't possibly have said no. Now if he hadn't done that cocky eye-roll while she was introducing herself, which was essentially, a "yeah right, I can't wait to see you make a fool of yourself", that would've been something
But Simon is as Simon is 
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Apr 16 2009, 3:03pm
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You're not fond of belting? But isn't that what pop singing is all about these days?
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Donry
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Apr 16 2009, 4:26pm
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saw this lady sing. I was shown the video last night at work and was just floored. I don't watch Idol at all, I see all I need to see in the promo's for it whenever it comes around. But this lady blew me away. Hope she succeeds. I also then got treated to the Paul Potts video from a couple years ago? Another amazing voice and story.
What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"
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