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A summary of 'The Hobbit' casting discussion so far
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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 10:08am

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"The Hobbit," has to be cast but that just leaves more time for fans to speculate, guess and suggest about the casting of the two-films planned by producer Peter Jackson and director Guillermo del Toro.

There are a few givens. According to the decision makers, as many of the main characters that appear in both Jackson's LOTR trilogy and GDT's Hobbit films will be cast using existing actors from those roles as possible. And while media outlets trying to create news about the film have asked any actor they can find if they will appear, the list of sure crossovers are relatively small.
Ian Holm, approaching 80 years old, has stated that he is too old to play Bilbo because of the physical demands of the role and the required relocation to New Zealand. So the search for the main character is on. Most readers will be familiar with characters like Gandalf that belong to actors such as Ian McKellen so they will not be rehashed here because there is no debate about who will fill the role.


Other roles are open to speculation such as Aragorn's role from the LOTR appendices that might be used to flesh out parts of the two-movie set planned for December 2011 and 2012.

While a few names have likely been missed here and there, we present the suggestions from TheOneRing.net's message boards. Check back soon on our "The Pollantir" section of our message boards for some unscientific voting. Please forgive any errors, there was a lot of information to be dealt with here.


Balin
Brian Blessed
Kenneth Branagh
Brian Cox
Neil Flyn
Dominic Purcell
Angus Macfadyen

Bard

Richard Armitage
Christian Bale
Gerard Butler
Jim Caviezel
Daniel Craig
Henry Iain Cusick
SirDennisC (message boards)
Jack Davenport
Johnny Depp
Michael Fassbender
Ralph Fiennes
Ioan Gruffudd
Martin Henderson
Hugh Jackman
Doug Jones
Thomas Kretschmann
Daniel Day Lewis
David O’Hara
Gary Oldman
Clive Owen
Adrian Pasdar
Guy Pearce
James Purefoy
Dominic Purcell
Toby Stephens

Beorn

Brian Blessed
Lawrence Fishburne
Nick Frost
Christopher Guest
Gary Lewis
Liam Neeson
Ron Perlman
Pete Postlethwaite
Geoffrey Rush
Guy Sprung
Ray Stevenson

Bert
(troll)
Tim McInnerny
Ray Winstone

Bifur

Alfred Molina
Hugh Laurie

Bilbo Baggins

Liam Aiken
Hugh Bonneville
Martin Freeman
Ryan Gosling
Tom Hollander
Bob Hoskins
Michael Hurst
Eddie Izzard
Toby Jones
Shia Lebouef
William H. Macy
Tobey Maguire
James McAvoy
Sam Neil
Sean Pertwee
Reece Shearsmith
Michael Sheen
David Tennant

Bofur

Mark Hamill

Bombur

Jack Black
Jorge Garcia
Paul Giamatti
Richard Griffiths
Jonah Hill
Oliver Platt

Dain

James Cosmo
Timothy Spall
Ray Winstone

Dori

Dara O’Briain
Tom Waits

Drogo

Robbie Coltraine

Dwalin

Brenden Gleeson

Dwarves (general)

Jack Black
Bill Baily
Robbie Coltraine
Brian Cox
Russell Crowe
Warwick Davis
Stephen Fry
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Derek Jacobi
Ken Jenkins
Angus Macfadyen
Alfred Molina
Ron Perlman
Jonathan Pryce
Geoffrey Rush
Timothy Spall
Ethan Suplee
David Tennant
Nick Frost

Gloin

Billy Connelly
John Rhys-Davies
Nicholas Lyndhurst

Goblin King / Great Goblin

Doug Jones
Tyler Mane
Ron Perlman

Kili

Kelsey Grammar
Simon Peg

Necromancer

James Woods

Nori

Phil Jupitus
Kevin McNally

Oin

Stephen Fry
Kevin McNally
David Jason

Ori

Alan Davies
Nathan Lane

Primula

Zooey Deschanel

Master / Lord of Laketown

Dustin Hoffman
Anthony Hopkins
Alan Rickman
Geoffrey Rush
Stanley Tucci

Radagast

Richard E Grant

Smaug (voice)

Clancy Brown
James Caan
George Clooney
Brian Cox
Marton Csokas
Tim Curry
Vin Diesel
Sam Elliott
Jonathan Freeman
Morgan Freeman
Bruno Ganz
Terry Gilliam
Mark Hamill
Djimon Hounsou
Anthony HopkinsJohn Hurt
Jeremy Irons
Jason Isaacs
Tommy Lee Jones
Ben Kingsley
Robert Lindsay
Meat Loaf
Ulrich Matthes
Alfred Molina
John Noble
Peter O’Toole
Edward James Elmos
Leslie Phillips
Wayne Pygram
Alan Rickman
Geoffrey Rush
Rodrigo Santoro
Andy Serkis
Martin Shaw
Stellan Skarsgard
Patrick Stewart
Kathleen Turner
Nichol Williamson
Michael Wincott

Spiders of Mirkwood

Cindy Lauper
Fran Drescher

Thorin Oakenshield

Brian Blessed
Jim Carter
Billy Connelly
Brian Cox
Kenneth Cranham
Brenden Gleeson
Alfred Molina
Ron Perlman
David Hyde Pierce
Geoffrey Rush
Patrick Stewart
Tom Wilkenson
Ray Winstone

Tom (troll)

Rowan Atkinson
Jason Statham

Thranduil

Richard Armitage
Paul Bettany
David Bowie
Timothy Dalton
James Duvall
Ralph Fiennes
William Fichtner
Luke Goss
Rhys Ifans
Jason Isaacs
Guy Pearce
Zachary Quinto
Patrick Stewart

William (troll)

Vinnie Jones

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(This post was edited by Altaira on Apr 13 2009, 5:13pm)


Peredhil lover
Valinor

Apr 13 2009, 11:19am

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It must have taken you forever to put that together! Thanks for that great piece of work! I've lost track of suggestions long ago.

I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.


Elven
Valinor


Apr 13 2009, 11:44am

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That is a mighty list MrCere!
Thankyou so much!
WOW! What a line-up.

... umm, but where's Russell Crowe for Beorn or Master of Lake Town? (see year old footer below)
I see he has been relegated to the Dwarve section in the list Wink

I think we're also missing Brian Steele as one of the 3 Trolls or the Goblin King Wink

Yippeee - cant wait to see the real list!

Cheers MrCere
Elven x


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Russell Crowe for Beorn!!

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Earl
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Apr 13 2009, 12:48pm

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... just how did you find the time and patience to put that list together. There must be over a 100 links in there Shocked

Okay, so I was busy clicking links and getting all dreamy about the fact that one of these actors *might* actually be officially named one of these months, and then I reach SirD, and after a few moments of complete befuddlement, I'm jarred out of my dreamy state and find myself trying to rein my laughing self in Cool

I really need to be on the lookout for you sneaky little naughties here on TORn... never know when you guys will turn about EvilHeart

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Kelvarhin
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Apr 13 2009, 12:54pm

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Actually Earl [In reply to] Can't Post

SirDennis was suggested for the role of Bard in this post

Oh and it's good to see you on facebook too Smile

*huggles*

Kel


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Earl
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Apr 13 2009, 1:05pm

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... to cast my vote for Sir Bard? Wink Thanks Kel, didn't see that thread before, I was rather overwhelmed by all the casting suggestions and I've been waiting for the official ones for a long time now. SirD looks so Bardy in that pic Tongue

*psst* I sent you a lil' giftie on FB Smile

(why are my sentences weirdly rhyming? Crazy)

Crows and Gibbets! What is the House of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek and their brats roll around on the floor with the dogs? You are but a lesser son of greater sires!

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Kelvarhin
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Apr 13 2009, 1:12pm

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you could ask a nice mod to change it for you if you like Wink

He does doesn't he? WinkSmile

Really??! Oooo will have to head over and have a look! Thank you Cool

It's the time of night dear, hits us all eventually Wink

*hugs*

Kel x


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almas_sparks
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Apr 13 2009, 1:20pm

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Great list but you omitted Rusty!


grammaboodawg
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Apr 13 2009, 2:25pm

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You REELy got me with this list! WOW!

I'll be back after going through this, but I just had to finish saying "WOW!" first...


"Wow!"



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Kangi Ska
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Apr 13 2009, 3:17pm

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See attached for my vote

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DiveTwin
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Apr 13 2009, 3:20pm

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Fantastic job! Thanks for doing that...

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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 13 2009, 3:28pm

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Brian Blessed! Hell yes!

I have made my mark, my work here is DONE!



Timdalf
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Apr 13 2009, 3:58pm

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Missing [In reply to] Can't Post

First you need to correct the spelling of Nicol Williamson's name under Smaug... And he would be an excellent choice.
Please add to yoru list for Bilbo my vote for Paul Giamatti...


MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:11pm

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A note on missing names . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

I am not a moderator of the message boards and don't have "mod power" so I can change the front page news list but I can't change the one on the message boards.

Mods will need to discuss and determine if this particular list gets updated and if so, who will do the job. My ten minute window to edit is closed.

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MrCere
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Apr 13 2009, 5:21pm

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I didn't check footers and must have missed him elsewhere. He is added to the front-page story, I am helpless to add him to the discussion on the message boards. Angelic

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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Apr 13 2009, 6:56pm

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

Great to read all those name.
Already spend a few minutes (maybe more) just looking. Thanks for putting all those together, must have taken you a while. I'm off speculating even more.


Timdalf
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Apr 14 2009, 12:02am

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OF COURSE! We should have thought of this before... There is only ONE, yes ONE possibility... And this explains his not taking the director's chair:

PETER JACKSON, himself!!! Cool Who else??

Timothy Fisher alias "Timdalf"

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Uruk-Hai
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Apr 14 2009, 1:48am

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jim carter for any dwarf
martin freeman as bilbo


geoboy
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Apr 14 2009, 4:19am

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The only addition I would make would be for Donald Sutherland as Smaug. He did an orange juice commercial and after I heard it i had an uncontrollable compulsion to drink OJ. Oh yeah, and Martin Freeman as Bilbo is win.


Nickey08
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Apr 14 2009, 7:07am

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I'm guessing no one liked my idea for Richard Hammond as Bilbo...?
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Shagrat
Gondor

Apr 14 2009, 10:02am

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I think James Cosmo should be added for Thorin or Balin and Julian Sands added for Thranduil; but aside from that its a pretty comprehensive list at this stage.


Sunflower
Valinor

Apr 14 2009, 2:34pm

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MrCere, I hope this thread NEVER gets deleted--it should have a permanent sticky until filming begins--and then it should go into the storied TORN vaults, never to be forgotten!

There will be in ages to come, times when oft we may feel the desire to revisit this list, and muse upon the horrors of What Could Have Been. Was there a similar compilation list thread for LOTR before the cast was revealed?

SirDennisC--can't stop laughing!!!!


Sunflower
Valinor

Apr 14 2009, 2:56pm

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that until he was officially rejected for the role, there were more than a few fans who wanted Doug Jones to be Thranduil, and speculated about this for months. And not just on TORN. Smile


Darkstone
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Apr 14 2009, 4:27pm

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Bilbo: William H. Macy

Gandalf: Clint Eastwood

Thorin Oakenshield: Ben Kingsley

Balin: Scott Grimes

Bombur: Michael Cudlitz

Dwalin: Rick Gomez

Gloin: Ross McCall

Bifur: Robin Laing

Bofur: Nicolas Aaron

Dori: George Calil

Nori: Rene Moreno

Ori: Douglas Spain

Oin: Eion Bailey

Kili: Craig Heaney

Fili: Mark Huberman

The Trolls: Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short

The Great Goblin: David Bowie

Beorn: Liam Neeson

King Thranduil: Stellan Skarsgård

Bard the Bowman: Joseph Fiennes

Smaug: Margaret Avery

Lord of the Eagles: Sam Elliot

Bilbo's Eagle: Zoë Wanamaker

Roac son of Carc: John Hurt

Master of Laketown: Wallace Shawn

Dain: Simon Callow

Drogo: Alec Baldwin

Primula: Geena Davis

Radagast: Patrick Stewart

Necromancer: Jonathan Pryce

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”



grammaboodawg
Immortal


Apr 14 2009, 4:39pm

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Bob Hoskins (Who Framed Roger Rabbit); and Bill (William) Nighy. He played Davy Jones in the PotC films. He also played Sam in the BBC Radio adaptation with Ian Holm's Frodo. What a perfect round-about that would be :)



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"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."

I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.



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