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drogo
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Apr 15 2007, 9:22pm
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Children of Húrin Discussion?
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Back when we were doing the sign-up for the artists discussion, we discussed following that up with a discussion of the "new" Children of Húrin which comes out on Tuesday. I don't think we had an official voting thread on it, so maybe this could be a thread to sound out ideas about our next discussion (if we want to do Húrin or some other book or topic).
Right now we go through May 14, the last of the open discussion weeks on artists. Thoughts on what we might do next?
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deej
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Apr 15 2007, 11:57pm
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I would definitely be interested
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This coming from someone who hardly posts in here! But count me in; i've got my copy on hold at Borders and plan to be there as soon as they open on Tuesday.
Sincerely, deej - The Artist Formerly Known as djdeathskiss
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Wynnie
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Apr 16 2007, 12:07am
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I've been hoping we could start Children of Hurin as soon as the Tolkien art discussions are over. Count me in.
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drogo
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Apr 16 2007, 1:34am
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Discuss the Bakshi Lord of the Rings on the Movie Board starting April 16
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a.s.
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Apr 16 2007, 2:06am
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since that will force me to read it.
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"an seileachan"
Some say they're going to a place called Glory, and I ain't saying it ain't a fact.
But I've heard that I'm on the road to Purgatory, and I don't like the sound of that!
I believe in love, and live my life accordingly,
And I choose: let the mystery be.
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Beren IV
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Apr 16 2007, 4:04am
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Would it be too much to ask if...
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...you let me order it and let it arrive before we launch into the discussion? 
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Modtheow
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Apr 16 2007, 4:16am
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As long as it's not right away. After the Tolkien art discussions would be just about right for me.
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Altaira
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Apr 16 2007, 4:56am
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CoH sounds perfect as our next discussion
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....Well, as perfect as it can be considering I'm still coming to terms with the fact that Turin's story is my least favorite of Tolkien's tales.  
Still, we simply *must* discuss the most recent release of Tolkien's works, and the timing corresponds perfectly with the end of the current - giving people enough time to start (and for many to finish) it by mid-May.
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Curious
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Apr 16 2007, 6:05am
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Eledhwen
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Apr 16 2007, 6:56am
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I'd like to start contributing again to the RR and as I love this story would love to contribute, so despite my long absence am pitching in a thought ... is mid-May long enough for everyone to a) get their sticky paws on CoH, and b) finish it? I know if I can find a copy I'll have it finished, 'cos I read fast, but perhaps we ought to leave it a little longer?
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drogo
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Apr 16 2007, 10:27am
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**How about starting it in June?**
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That would give people time to get the book, and to get ahead in the reading (since many like to have it under their belts before Chapter 1 discussion begins!).
I volunteered with Altaira to help coordinate it as N.E. Brigand did with the artists discussion since she has a lot on her plate. I think we'd all like to find a balance so that those who are brand new or fairly new to the story would be happy along with those who are familiar with all the different incarnations of the Turin account, a mix of the scholarly with those who see it as a good read. This would be a great chance to draw some people into the RR, some for the first time, so we could see how the new furniture squire bought holds up.
Here's a proposal, and if we might want to adjust the timing, that's fine with me. There could be a sign-up thread towards the beginning of May and we'd start in June. I'll glance at the number of chapters and appendices, etc., once I get it in hand, and from there we can make an estimate about how long it will take what it'll entail.
I know Túrin's story is not exactly up with people people material, and there are no hobbits (though we did have a post series a while ago about a "hobbit-like" character Tolkien considered introducing--N.E. could maybe supply the link). But it's a new Tolkien book, AND we can extend our illustration discussion by looking at the Alan Lee images as we go through the text!
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N.E. Brigand
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Apr 16 2007, 3:19pm
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Thanks for taking this on. I look forward to participating on whatever schedule is arranged by Altaira and yourself.
As you noted, Tolkien did consider one way to overcome the absence of reader-friendly Hobbit characters in the "Silmarillion", but his peculiar and undeveloped solution was to use the Drúedain (Woses) for this purpose. Túrin's childhood friend, the lame servant Sador Labadal, was to have become a Drúg named Sadog: see this excellent post by squire from October. Given that Tolkien apparently never did more than note his intentions for this character --he never wrote any scenes with Sadog-- it is unlikely that he appears in The Children of Húrin.
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drogo
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Apr 16 2007, 5:09pm
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I remembered that post.
I'll be getting a copy tomorrow, so I'll look at it thinking how it could be used in a discussion (divide up chapters, or whatever). Can't wait to get it!
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Rohwen
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Apr 17 2007, 2:05am
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I just hope I will be able to resist reading CoH until final exams are over.
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My exams don't end until May 10th- keeping a copy of that book nearby could be hazardous to my grade point average! Mine is on super saver shipping from Amazon so maybe it will take long enough to let me finish my academic studies first! Cheers to having a discussion in June! I hope I can join in, but I might not be around!
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Eledhwen
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Apr 17 2007, 10:05am
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Thanks, drogo.
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Apr 17 2007, 10:48am
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And had a flick through and I totally second his comments about it being incredibly well-designed. There are picture plates, a large, well-spaced typeface (not always the case with other Tokien books), and pictures heading and finishing the chapters. It does look like the sort of book that is a pleasure to read, rather than just page after page of uninterrupted text which, although it is what a book is, the addition of some design can make an unbelievable difference.
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elentari3018
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Apr 18 2007, 12:54am
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Count me in for a discussion! I'm already reading the book and enjoying it a lot, a lot a lot! :D
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"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series
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mythlover
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Apr 18 2007, 1:40pm
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There's a short review of the book over on the Endicott Studio blog, which in turn links to a review on Salon.com:
http://endicottstudio.typepad.com/...back_to_middle_.html
I spotted this bit of trivia at the bottom of the review:
"Endicott contributor Howard Gayton posed for the hero in the book's cover painting by Alan Lee. You can read Howard's article on fairy tale theater here, and see more art by Alan here and here. To view a "video trailer" about the new Tolkien book, visit the Harper Collins UK website."
Can't wait to get a copy of the book. Sounds great, and I've always loved Lee's art.
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mythlover
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Apr 18 2007, 10:22pm
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Daughter of Nienna:
One of those Alan Lee links in my post just above yours goes to a nice article about him on the Endicott site.
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Daughter of Nienna
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Apr 19 2007, 3:10am
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I saw that. I am quite familiar with those links you posted. I had not seen you article yet, so thank you for posting it.
I can see that you like Alan Lee art. Included are links to that site in #2 – Biography & #18 – Lobby Refreshments. Perhaps you missed the Alan lee Discussion a couple of weeks ago. Below is the Alan Lee Discussion:
Alan Lee Discussion #1 – Introduction
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #2 – Biography & Background
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #3 - Landscapes & Woods: Lord of the Rings
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #4 - Places in The Hobbit
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #5 – Races-Hobbits, Dwarves
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #6 - Race-Elves, Men
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #7 - Animals, Creatures & Monsters http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #8 - Architectural Places: Cities, Towns, Buildings
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #9 - Main Characters
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #10 - The Bad Guys
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #13 - Scenes from the Hobbit
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #12 – Scenes & Action Scenes-LotR
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #12b – Battle Scenes
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #13 - Epic Scenes / Iconic Moments
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #14 - Mythic Types - Part I
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #15 - Mythic Types - Part II
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #16 - Closing Credits
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #16b - Closing Credits - Part b: Supporting Cast
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
Alan Lee Discussion #17 – Coming Attractions
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
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Alan Lee Discussion #18 – Lobby Refreshments
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_expanded;
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showard2
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Apr 22 2007, 9:22pm
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I was very surprised to see the new book at the Library last week! I 'm reading it right now. I feel Im actually reading a Tolkien book for the first time since LOTHR,although I agree with some-would like to have seen Beren and Luthien,or The Fall of Gondonlin first! Still,its good,and I dont care what that book review says!
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