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Nitpicker's Corner: What do you like least about LotR? And why?

Curious
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Apr 14 2007, 12:50pm


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I am not posting this to provoke an argument. I hope to provide a safe and civil thread to discuss what we like least about LotR.

I think the biggest flaws in Tolkien's prose are his long passages of exposition. Even Tolkien thought the Council of Elrond was too long, for example, and admitted that he was often better off when he did not explain everything to the reader. As it was, he exercised remarkable restraint, holding back far more than he explained; but even more restraint might have been better. I also think Bombadil is a flawed character because he is so flamboyantly powerful. Restraint would have helped there, as well. And I have some quibbles with the handling of Weathertop, and with a few too many "Lo"s and "Forth the Three Hunters" from Aragorn, and some of the poetry is merely passable.

I would say more, but five-year-old daughter wants my attention. So I'll just throw this out there. Any comments?

Subject User Time
Nitpicker's Corner: What do you like least about LotR? And why? Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 14 2007, 12:50pm
    That's a tough one! Wynnie Send a private message to Wynnie Apr 14 2007, 1:39pm
    re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 14 2007, 1:59pm
        I agree priell3 Send a private message to priell3 Apr 14 2007, 5:13pm
    I guess I dislike some of Tolkien's tendency to overtly underline his moral ideas elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Apr 14 2007, 4:16pm
    only a teeny tiny nitpick Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Apr 14 2007, 7:25pm
    well,, Erufaildon Send a private message to Erufaildon Apr 14 2007, 9:50pm
        I wonder Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Apr 15 2007, 12:44am
            The first read was a nightmare!! Elven Send a private message to Elven Apr 15 2007, 2:06pm
            Description versus action drogo Send a private message to drogo Apr 15 2007, 3:24pm
                I like the long set-up, too. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Apr 15 2007, 9:06pm
    Keep them coming. I've thought of another. Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 14 2007, 11:03pm
        I agree with Curious on hirearchy Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Apr 15 2007, 6:56pm
        I don't really dislike the hierarchical worldview FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Apr 15 2007, 8:42pm
            Nonetheless the place of people in their roles Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Apr 15 2007, 8:55pm
            cynicism elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Apr 16 2007, 8:01am
            There's nothing that brings people together more than Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 3:42pm
                No argument there! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Apr 16 2007, 6:09pm
                    I could argue Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 6:37pm
                Did Tolkien ever say he had been inspired by the 950s? mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 9:39am
                    You're right, Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 25 2007, 11:09pm
                        Yes, for sure it not only influenced him, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 26 2007, 9:27am
        Hmm elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Apr 16 2007, 7:54am
        On the other hand Atlas Send a private message to Atlas Apr 16 2007, 11:37am
            Yes, the other extreme is just as fanciful./ Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 5:49pm
    Three words: Let... Boromir... live! diedye Send a private message to diedye Apr 15 2007, 6:15pm
    Look at all these lofty reasons in this thread! GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Apr 15 2007, 7:43pm
        Add me to the mundane crowd Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Apr 15 2007, 8:08pm
            Oh, I'll join you on Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Apr 15 2007, 9:15pm
                Not a Bombadil fan too Silent_Watcher Send a private message to Silent_Watcher Apr 18 2007, 12:23am
                    Yes, that dream and those lines are there... mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 18 2007, 11:23am
        Not all parts are meant to be enjoyable, are they? elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Apr 16 2007, 11:14am
            Oh, I know Tolkien didn't mean GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Apr 16 2007, 12:26pm
    Sometimes the little pool of adjectives... Smokering Send a private message to Smokering Apr 15 2007, 8:20pm
        re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 15 2007, 10:02pm
    "He's dead--oh, no he's not" syndrome Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 15 2007, 10:10pm
        Heh. Smokering Send a private message to Smokering Apr 15 2007, 11:30pm
            re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 15 2007, 11:56pm
            'Aragorn's completely unnecessary mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 21 2007, 6:31am
                Hmm... Smokering Send a private message to Smokering Apr 21 2007, 10:28am
                    textual basis Wynnie Send a private message to Wynnie Apr 21 2007, 2:00pm
                        This is indeed the passage I had in mind, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 6:42am
                    About the extra scenes, I generally agree, but for those ones mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 7:09am
    Why don't you ask me what I like least about my husband? Finding Frodo Send a private message to Finding Frodo Apr 16 2007, 1:40am
        My response too. Penthe Send a private message to Penthe Apr 16 2007, 3:17am
        That's a good analogy FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Apr 16 2007, 7:13am
    The orcs, you know.... a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Apr 16 2007, 2:02am
        The orcs work for me on a mythological level Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 16 2007, 2:19am
            I'm not sure it has to be allegorical to work Penthe Send a private message to Penthe Apr 16 2007, 3:40am
                'Tolkien is trying to set up layers of symbolism': don't think so... mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 18 2007, 12:13pm
            Agree fully with you; and 'No allegory' is one thing, mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 18 2007, 12:05pm
        re: the orcs a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Apr 18 2007, 1:09pm
    My *only* nitpick Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 16 2007, 2:06am
        That's true for me in reverse Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 16 2007, 2:42pm
            What makes you think that? Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 3:08pm
                I could answer this better with books. Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 16 2007, 3:49pm
                    Or we could just wait for the CoT discussion./ Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 4:25pm
                        Yes, I'll be very pleased if CoH has more stuff about Morwen/ Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 16 2007, 4:44pm
                            Right, CoH./ Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 5:03pm
                                CoM? / N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Apr 16 2007, 5:32pm
                                    That too! ;-) // Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 16 2007, 5:43pm
                    Should Morwen have sought out Glaurung? Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 30 2007, 3:27pm
                        I won't argue with that. Morwen Send a private message to Morwen Apr 30 2007, 5:29pm
        'he tells us we should admire someone like Boromir': Does he? mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 18 2007, 1:22pm
    The attempt to fit Catholic beliefs over the top Owlyross Send a private message to Owlyross Apr 16 2007, 11:07am
        And I just found this from Beren IV, which supports my view Owlyross Send a private message to Owlyross Apr 16 2007, 1:04pm
            re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 16 2007, 4:56pm
                Catholocism and Catholocism Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Apr 17 2007, 12:42am
                    re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 17 2007, 3:26am
                        Let me clarify Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Apr 17 2007, 4:15am
                            re: WonderBroad Send a private message to WonderBroad Apr 19 2007, 11:18pm
                                1800s England Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Apr 20 2007, 12:01am
                    Maybe Tolkien was a closet Calvinist. ;) Smokering Send a private message to Smokering Apr 17 2007, 3:29am
                But the question was Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 17 2007, 1:19am
                    Although Owlyross Send a private message to Owlyross Apr 17 2007, 9:14am
                        I guess the more you know about each subject... Smokering Send a private message to Smokering Apr 18 2007, 1:34am
                            Very true Owlyross Send a private message to Owlyross Apr 18 2007, 9:07am
                Agree with you on this... and mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 21 2007, 7:29am
        I know its quite late for this... Finduilas Send a private message to Finduilas Dec 3 2010, 1:54am
    I'm going to get flamed for this entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Apr 17 2007, 2:47am
        I agree. Atlas Send a private message to Atlas Apr 17 2007, 9:15am
        I agree. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Apr 17 2007, 3:10pm
        Yup, I agree too Penthe Send a private message to Penthe Apr 18 2007, 2:41am
        a.s. politely refrains from shooting flames at entmaiden a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Apr 18 2007, 1:01pm
            *mildly visualising a.s. as Glaurung*// Penthe Send a private message to Penthe Apr 20 2007, 12:07am
                LOL!... mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 7:12am
        I think Tolkien would agree, too. Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 18 2007, 4:08pm
            And I agree with you here!... :-D / mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Apr 22 2007, 2:06pm
    hmmm Rick Flowers Send a private message to Rick Flowers Apr 20 2007, 2:13am

 
 
 

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