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LotR Free Discussion: Are there any moral dilemmas in Middle-earth?

Curious
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Mar 18 2009, 12:20pm


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Are there any moral quandries, any difficulty determining the moral choice? Or is it always a choice between the hard moral answer and the easier but wrong moral answer? For example, when Frodo is choosing between Minas Tirith and Gondor, is there any question which is the moral choice?

Come to think of it, maybe that is an example of a moral dilemma, but not for Frodo. Maybe that's a moral dilemma for Frodo's friends, and particularly for Aragorn; whether to send Frodo to Mordor, or to accompany him there. Maybe that's why fate had to intervene. And maybe Merry and Pippin, who argued that Frodo shouldn't be allowed to cross the River and head to Mordor, also faced a moral dilemma; whether to rescue their friend from a horrible fate, or to allow him to accomplish his mission.

Do you agree that Frodo's friends faced a moral dilemma at the end of FotR? Can you think of other possible examples?

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LotR Free Discussion: Are there any moral dilemmas in Middle-earth? Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 18 2009, 12:20pm
    I'm wondering if entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 18 2009, 1:40pm
        Yes, I can see that. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 18 2009, 2:35pm
            I know we've discussed Eowyn before entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 18 2009, 6:09pm
                Not exactly. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 18 2009, 6:49pm
                    A true pacifist. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 18 2009, 8:40pm
                Rangers and Frodo Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 18 2009, 8:31pm
                Actually Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Mar 18 2009, 8:43pm
        It gets even worse than that. Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 18 2009, 8:24pm
    Many. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 18 2009, 2:18pm
    Yes sador Send a private message to sador Mar 18 2009, 2:38pm
        The price of mercy Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Mar 22 2009, 10:37pm
            Wanda!! Good to see you in the RR. // a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 23 2009, 10:25am
                Thanks! Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Mar 24 2009, 8:11pm
    Choices of Master Samwise Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 18 2009, 8:20pm
    another one Menelwyn Send a private message to Menelwyn Mar 18 2009, 8:41pm
    Frodo faces a moral dilemma! a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 18 2009, 10:59pm
        Placing your life in danger Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 6:20am
            we'll have to agree to disagree, because a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 10:10am
                I think I'm with Curious on this one, a.s. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 19 2009, 12:53pm
                    that's all right, I won't hold it against you! :-) // a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 2:21pm
                Martyrdom is not suicide either. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 2:27pm
                    what does sin have to do with moral dilemmas? a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 3:16pm
                        Nothing, or everything. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 19 2009, 3:41pm
                            a choice between two or more MORAL CHOICES is a dilemma a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 4:02pm
                                Helm's Deep or the Shire? Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 19 2009, 4:31pm
                                I understand now. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 5:22pm
                                    no, I'm trying to understand how you are using the term "moral dilemma" a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 7:43pm
                                        Not ever dilemma is a moral dilemma. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 8:33pm
                                            yes, EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 10:22pm
                        Okay. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 5:15pm
                            all right: I was forced to do a Google search a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 19 2009, 7:51pm
                                The classic standard Ethics 101 textbook moral dilemma Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 19 2009, 8:20pm
                                    Gandalf's Dilemma Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 20 2009, 3:28am
                                I don't understand Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 9:50pm
                                    Since you and a.s. seem to agree on definitions N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 19 2009, 10:44pm
                                        I apologize for my snit fit, but I must be hopelessly unable to make my point a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 20 2009, 12:08am
                                            Thanks for the clarification. // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 20 2009, 12:20am
                                            I think I see it differently from both of you, then entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 20 2009, 12:52am
                                                moral dilemma thoughts from a board newbie Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Mar 20 2009, 1:51am
                                                    Welcome, Jerene!// batik Send a private message to batik Mar 20 2009, 1:57am
                                                    Oh, no. It's a Reading Room entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 20 2009, 4:09am
                                                        Thank you for the welcome Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Mar 20 2009, 4:31pm
                                                    Welcome! sador Send a private message to sador Mar 20 2009, 9:10am
                                                        Thanks for the welcome Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Mar 20 2009, 4:25pm
                                                            Brilliant argument! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 20 2009, 6:20pm
                                                                I see it more as gaining consensus entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 20 2009, 7:24pm
                                                                    The process of discussion dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Mar 21 2009, 1:41pm
                                                                        Oooh! Interesting thought entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 21 2009, 2:17pm
                                                                            I suspect that if he didn't dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Mar 23 2009, 12:22am
                                                                        I like that thought! sador Send a private message to sador Mar 22 2009, 6:46am
                                                                            The quest would not have dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Mar 23 2009, 12:38am
                                                                    Why Frodo? Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 21 2009, 3:04pm
                                                                        You could ask that of anyone at the Council entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Mar 21 2009, 6:09pm
                                                                dilemmas Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Mar 20 2009, 7:35pm
                                                                    Another good point! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 21 2009, 12:35am
                                                                    Throw Frodo from the Train Nerdanel Send a private message to Nerdanel Mar 21 2009, 6:33am
                                                                        Hang on Frodo Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Mar 21 2009, 11:51am
                                            Selfish vs. Selfless Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 20 2009, 3:41am
                                                I wonder Radhruin Send a private message to Radhruin Mar 20 2009, 7:38am
                                                    You may have a point Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 20 2009, 6:09pm
                A fate worse than death. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 19 2009, 2:36pm
                    Could that justify suicide? sador Send a private message to sador Mar 19 2009, 2:40pm
                        Can a wraith commit suicide?// Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 3:13pm
                        Dunno Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 19 2009, 3:18pm
                            The Virgin Suicides Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 19 2009, 3:55pm
                        To be or not to be Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 19 2009, 3:31pm
                            Indirect suicide. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 19 2009, 4:03pm
                    Now that's an interesting argument, Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 3:11pm
    Gollum anybody? Mmatmuor Send a private message to Mmatmuor Mar 19 2009, 3:25am
        Welcome, Mmatmuor! Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Mar 19 2009, 3:51am
        Yes, and Frodo binding Gollum Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 19 2009, 6:09am
    Thank you for a terrific discussion, Curious! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 22 2009, 12:14am

 
 
 

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