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Did You Ever Notice... Gimli's Fellowship Costume?
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Arwen's daughter
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Dec 2 2008, 8:03pm

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This week marks the One Year Anniversary of Did You Ever Notice.

Gimli's costume, which is worn from the Council of Elrond until the Coronation, where he finally changes clothes, weighed more than 70 pounds. I'm afraid that the pictures I've posted don't do the details justice.

THIS PICTURE is a fabulous one for the details. Sadly, it's too large for the boards and with each resize I found myself disheartened by the lack of detail. I highly recommend taking a look.

You can see here the pants (and suspenders!) and the undershirt with mail sleeves built in. Obviously, a full mail shirt would be prohibitavely heavy and expensive, especially when it would never be seen.



Over his pants he would wear a wrap skirt of more chainmaille. Over this, he wears a simple tunic, my guess is that the fabric is wool but that could be entirely false. They added braided leather along the hem and over the shoulders. And over all of this we get various armor pieces and this great belt with shoulder straps.

I hope that you can see the mail in some of these pictures. It's not a traditional chainmaille pattern, but rather is based on Japanese maille. It consists of a silver disc, like a washer, held to four other discs (one on each side) by copper wire. Something like this:



His belt



The belt buckle. I hope that you can see some of the design along the edge of the belt, here.



And his pack. This might also be the best shot of his maille.



His shoulder armor:



His gloves and vambraces:



And don't forget the helmet and boots!






I'm going to send you off both to AlleyCatScratch and to Reera the Red's Screencap Library, with shots from the EE galleries for more details.

Any thoughts?


Did You Ever Notice? is a running look at the costumes from LOTR. There isn't a particular order of costumes nor does it appear on any particular day. You can always find previous discussions on my Costume Discussion Archive.



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Ataahua
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Dec 3 2008, 12:20am

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Gimli's costume vies with Boromir's [In reply to] Can't Post

for my favourite outfit in LOTR. The design of Gimli's outfit is unequivocal in its heritage, and both his and Boromir's are rich in detail and in fabrics that tell their own stories about the wearer.

And I *love* that Gimli's helmet is undeniably Dwarven as well as useful as a protection, while not looking ridiculous (or hiding much of Gimli's face). The designers must have workshopped his whole look to death to make it work so well.

In one thing I think they've been particularly cunning: The amount of items that make up his outfit make Gimli look quite wide (compare the first two photos), which also help make him look *short* - handy for convincing us that John Rhys Davies is a Dwarf.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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weaver
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Dec 3 2008, 2:01am

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You've certainly contributed to me noticing a lot I never noticed over the last year. Many thanks!

In terms of Gimli, here, I really like the angular, blocky designs used to decorate his belt, helmet and the trimmings on his clothes.

The elves are all curves and natural lines -- but Gimli is all about angles and sharp edges and hard lines. His outfit fits with the architectural style of Moria in that way.
Since we see so little of dwarvish culture in the films, these glimpses of what the dwarves wear, and one place they lived, are especially important.

I know in the commentaries Phillipa says "if you want to know about dwarven culture, you cast John Rhys Davies in the role, and he'll show and tell it to you". Very true of course. But the clothes certainly help to make the man..er..dwarf in this case!

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Arwen's daughter
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Dec 3 2008, 3:27am

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The proportions are great [In reply to] Can't Post

When I was putting this together, in fact, I had a hard time remembering that JRD is over 6 feet tall!



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Dec 3 2008, 3:35am

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Thanks weaver! [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the dwarves had to be the hardest race to design. Just my opinion, but everyone knows what an elf should look like and what Medieval men look like. But how do you draw on an ancient Dwarvish tradition that just isn't there? The design team did a great job making them different from the other races but still plausibly from the same world.



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Dec 3 2008, 4:52am

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I think that Gimli's character gives the LOTR an ancient feel .

Love the pictures.

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Dec 3 2008, 7:02am

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Congratulations... [In reply to] Can't Post

on a year of great posts. I really have enjoyed these posts. When I watch the movies, I really don't see all the detail. They put so much into these cosumes.

I never really looked so closely at Gimli's costume. I think it takes a man as big as John Rys-Davies to wear all that and look right. It never seemed to overwhelm him. I could always tell the scale double.

Thanks again for such enjoyable posts.

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Dec 3 2008, 4:12pm

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What I love about these costumes is that they all obviously are based around different cultures; Gimli's costume looks so different from anyone else's outfit. It's really wonderful.

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Dec 3 2008, 5:49pm

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Cheers for a great series! I really enjoyed these posts and I've learned a great deal! This one is very educational too, as this is the first time I see the details of Gimli's costume. I agree with the others that it is remarkable how much work and time is invested in every little piece. Fantastic! Gimli's costume is so... historical, heavy with meaning. Very nice, I love it.

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Dec 3 2008, 7:01pm

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Thanks for taking a look [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures!



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Dec 3 2008, 7:53pm

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I'm glad you enjoyed this post.

I didn't see most of the detail the first few times, either. But then I got pretty obssesive about the details when I first learned how to sew, and here I am!



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Dec 3 2008, 7:55pm

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With five different races, I'd have run out of ideas! [In reply to] Can't Post

I love that no race's costumes look overly similar to any of the other costumes. But none of them look ridiculously different, either. It's a very fine line to tread in fantasy costuming and I think Ngila nailed it with Gimli!



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Dec 3 2008, 8:05pm

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Gimli's costume gets so little attention [In reply to] Can't Post

Hardly anyone recreates it. I'm glad to show off some of the details!

I had a geology professor who wanted to change the way we saw the landscape. He said that was his only goal for the class. I guess that I have a similar goal, here. If I have been able to change the way anyone sees these costumes, then I'm happy.

But then again, I suppose you guys already knew how great these costumes are. Cool



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Dec 3 2008, 11:39pm

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His costume has 'heinous amount of work and a good posibility of a poor result' written all over it!

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Dec 4 2008, 1:21am

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Dec 4 2008, 1:26am

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Do you think there are enough costumes to give us another year *winkie, wink* Good Job!! :D

I love Gimli's costume. So much of the detailing is straight from the runes and walls of Moria. The squared edges and sharp lines looks like the doorways and caverns of their kingdoms. I really developed an appreciation after seeing his costume at the LotR Exhibit. I think his beard is as much a part of his costume as any buckle or axe ;)

I still can express how much I enjoy these posts, Arwen's daughter. Thank you so much!


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Dec 4 2008, 2:27am

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I have a list of 51 costumes still to do, assuming that I can find pictures for all of them. I think it's safe to say that these posts will stick around for at least another year. Cool



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Dec 4 2008, 9:22am

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I love your threads!! (bad pun Wink) and am looking forward to the next year! - then we can do it all over again! Wink
Thankyou so much Arwen's Daughter! Heart

What I love about Gimli's costume is that is really does look like a miners outfit - his 'uniform' - it is practical - well it looks practical and worn, as if he has been working in it. It almost looks weary - and I think that that's becasue of the percieved weight of the costume - a strong solid outfit for strong solid work!
When Gimli runs across the plains with that costume on he make me feel tired. Now there's a load to bear!

The chain maille design is lovely! I wonder if we will see the Dwarves in The Hobbit in a similar linked outit. (I hope they keep the continuity going - maybe with Gloins chainmaille - that would be a really nice touch!)

When I look at all the stuff JRD had to wear including wigs and prosthetics, I think he did an amazing job with his character. It must have been difficult to endure (and as well as being allergic to his prosthetics!)

Thankyou AD!!
Your a gem!

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Dec 4 2008, 2:25pm

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I know I don't reply to your costume threads, but I do look at each one. I just don't know enough about sewing, etc., to make any intelligent remarks.

But I do enjoy reading about the different costumes and look forward to seeing many more!
Thanks!



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Dec 5 2008, 3:21am

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I love your point on how old and worn his costume is.

I can't wait to see what GDT and the others do with the dwarves in The Hobbit. I hope they manage to keep up the style of LOTR.



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Dec 5 2008, 3:42am

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I appreciate every view that these posts get, even from those who don't have a chance to comment on them. Thanks for letting me know you're out there Smile



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Dec 6 2008, 3:34am

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And I can't wait to see more of these types of details [In reply to] Can't Post

in The Hobbit! Surely they have in mind to show us more of the Dwarves culture and craft. I already feel a bit sorry though, for those poor fellows if they'll all be having to lug around 70 pounds of costume every day too. Although poor JRD had to bear it all on his own ... at least in The Hobbit there will a whole bunch of them to console each other about their aching bods :-).

I'm amazed at the packs on his back - again, the amount of detail and care they put into things that were barely, if ever even, seen in the film is just mind-boggling. Amazing.

Great photos, Arwen's daughter! And congratulations on a year of an absolutely fabulous discussion series. Thank you for all the effort and love you put into it. Very much appreciated :-).


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Dec 6 2008, 4:07am

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Love'em! For some reason they remind me of children's boots-the "shortness" of the foot from heel to toe but with the bulk/substance needed for a dwarf. Also really like the work on the leather goods. And the tunic with its detail along the hem. And the helmet-know I like this one more than those worn by the soldiers of Gondor and probably more than those worn by the Rohirrim. All in all-those dwarves have some nice, if rugged, threads!

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