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Magpie
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Nov 4 2008, 2:33am
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A five year anniversary
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Five years ago today, the website, A Magpie's Nest, went live.
I wanted to acknowledge this anniversary and wondered how. In considering a mathom (of course) I realized I could finalize something I was really wanting to do.
Figuring out what is sung at any particluar point is pretty tricky. But with the FOTR, I think we now have enough resources to get us pretty close to accurate and complete. I decided to set the format the lyrics for printing rather than just for web viewing. So, here is my mathom for fans of the soundtrack, a printable pdf of all the lyrics in the FOTR.
The FOTR Master Lyrics List.
But, in my head, there's so much more going on. I'm thinking a lot about where I am today as opposed to five years ago... or even better, six years ago when I fell in love with Tolkien and started my study of the soundtrack. I don't think I could ever have conceived the people I would meet, the experiences I would have, the skills I would acquire. I am reminded of an article Tehanu wrote on April 29th, 2004, Where To From Here?
For many people, the books and the movies turned their lives around in ways they could never have forseen. They followed their strong attraction to The Lord of the Rings and what it represented for them, and their feelings pointed them towards new friends, new pastimes, new talents, new jobs, new countries, a new life entirely.
Woah. That was me. I was a TA in an online LOTR class. I moderated and started forums. I made friends online and then met them in person. I made a website. I corresponded with people from Croatia, Belgium, Netherlands, Australia, England, and India. I got letters from heavy metal rockers and nuns... 15 year olds and 50 year olds. I decided to go back to school, going for the slightly scarier option of design since, although I'd lived a creative life I'd never taken an art class in my life.
So my question to you is, how has your life changed because of Tolkien? Or, alternately, how does it all matter? What importance has any of the works associated with Tolkien had in your life?
Last thought. If you enjoy the singing and lyrics of the soundtrack, watch for a new series of discussions lead by HobbitLove and OrdinaryHobbit on the LOTR movie board. I can't wait to see what they've got in mind.
LOTR soundtrack website : FOTR Lyrics Update, Oct 2008
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Laerasëa
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Nov 4 2008, 3:12am
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I like this post, and I love love love your mathom. What an amazing gift!!
Well, ok. Hmmm. Well, I'm sitting here right now waiting for a reply to a college I applied to- I'll get the reply in about a month. The college has an MAT program that I'd like to be in, and I want to major in English, so I can be an English teacher. Not only did I seriously begin to consider the idea of teaching English because of this post, but I would not have applied to that college in the first place if I hadn't initially gotten the idea from Menelwyn (and I'm very glad I did). On another note, I probably not have stayed on TORn as long as I did without Menelwyn encouraging me to sign up for a RR discussion (despite my initial fears of actually posting in the same forum as NEB, I decided to try it anyway)- because of that, I hung out on TORn for a while to make sure I wouldn't forget to actually post one.
So, anyway, a thanks to Menelwyn for everything she's done there (someone I probably would never really have gotten to know very well at all if it hadn't been for Tolkien/TORn).
Actually, I don't know how, exactly, to write what Tolkien did for me, because I couldn't do that without getting into a discussion of TORn- for me, they're very related (as far as how they've affected me). Sure, I liked Tolkien before TORn; I took Menelwyn's mini-course, didn't I? And I was into soundtracks, and Howard Shore was very high on my list after I heard The Departed OST.
But one thing I love more than Tolkien himself (and his works) is discussing Tolkien with people who also love him, and people who I like, and I like the people on here. Does that make sense? I really really like music and movies and books in general, and I just adore LOTR, The Hobbit, and the Sil, but something would definitely be lost in them if I didn't have a whole board of friendly people to discuss it with, and then, the same board to just chat with about whatever I want (even if they don't "chat" very well  ).
Because I signed up here, I've read the Sil and UT, which I both loved. I'm planning on starting HoME sometime (although I certainly won't read it in order). Also, because I signed up here, I've been inspired to read other books, as well. Victor Hugo, Neal Stephenson, Umberto Eco....all names that I had barely heard of before signing up on here, who I have now read. And I feel smarter for it!
And I know I've changed because of it....my former English teacher noted that I seemed to become a little more thoughtful and eloquent when I saw her in August after summer vacation. And I've met people, too! I've got a journal going around, because I love knowing people in Australia, NZ, India, Germany, the Netherlands, Canada, and all four corners of the US.
Anyway, that's kind of how Tolkien's influenced me (if that all made sense  ).
Again- thanks for the wonderful, thoughtful, awesome mathom! I know what I'm going to be doing all this weekend.....
Thanks, M! 
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simplyaven
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Nov 4 2008, 3:48am
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Yes... It changed me a big deal. Sad topic, though. Tolkien books definitely changed my life in a way which doesn't serve well the people around me. My point of view changed - I'm less willing to compromise with the everyday boring small life, with the "happiness of the average person", with the small purchases and materialistic values. I became much more demanding from life. I expect more and search for more. The books made me restless. There is a verse I love and it says: "Don't judge me for my restless heart..." I still fear death, though. It paralyzes me because I'm afraid I may not go to Middle Earth after I die. If I know I will go back there - I wouldn't fear it at all. But I don't know. And my heart aches for the life that surrounds me 'cause it's so cheap and overestimated. Quite a change I experienced. Now I read the books all the time, they are on my night stand. This way I can be there at least in my dreams. The bad side - I don't want to wake up. Anyways, congratulations to you! I wish you fifty more fifth anniversaries to celebrate!
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Magpie
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Nov 4 2008, 4:36am
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When I went through my summer of Tolkien
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I couldn't watch tv or go to any movie other than FOTR. I seemed to be in this sort of mystical state and the thought of seeing a commercial or sarcastic comedy show or car chase movie made me wince. I know that some might think that I was evading reality and maybe I was. I certainly needed a retreat of sorts from all the things that had happened in my life the years previous. But it was more that I felt I had found a true center within me and it was so precious that I didn't want to risk breaking the seal around it.
But I did slowly emerge from this mystical state. I wrote this in my journal:
Many Partings:
The week after finishing ROTK was hard. I cried often. I was in a daze. I likened it to bliss and pain at the same time.
“But I would not have come (to Lothlórien) had I know the dangers of light and joy. Now I have taken my worst wound in this parting. Alas for Gimli, son of Glóin.”
I wanted to stay in this place, not just the book and the book’s world - but the place I was at as I read; the thoughts I thought; the feelings I felt. But it was sad here too. Frodo’s end struck me deeply. And I knew that I couldn’t stay.
“‘Nay!’ said Legolas. ‘Alas for us all! And for all that walk the world in these days. For such is the way of it; to find and lose, as it seems to those whose boat is on the running stream.’”
“I will not say, do not weep, for not all tears are an evil.” (Gandalf)
August 21, 2002:
My boat is on the running stream. It was, for a while, on a slow, wide stretch. I dwelt awhile in a quiet, reflective place. But the current picks up.
I don't cry anymore. I'm coming to some acceptance of Frodo's fate. I still check the net numerous times a day. I reread Kocher's book. I took a look at the History of Middle Earth and The Silmarillion. I'm still looking for Burger King toys. I collect and play the LOTR trading card game. I'm singing "Fellowship Going South". I have the DVD on hold at the library for re-viewing. The soundtrack is the only CD in my 10 CD changer.
But, tomorrow I go to the State Fair. And Monday I go back to work.
The current picks up and that is the way of it.
I wrote to a friend recently about a radio segment I heard:
Listening to this Science Friday segment: http://www.sciencefriday.com/...m/archives/200810037
The speculation is that people develop more magical thinking, more paranoid type conspiricy theories, more superstitions when they feel out of control. One way to help people feel more in control during times of stress (such as this current financial situation creates) is to get them thinking about their inner core of values and beliefs that do not change.
"You always have control over your values no matter how chaotic the world is around you. And they had a chance to confirm the things they hold dearest in the world and that kind of returned their sense of control to them. Even if you're in a situation where you're wildly chaotic, take a moment to step back and take stock and recognize that, no matter how chaotic this situation is, it's not the entirety of your universe. There's still things you have control over. Even in the worst and darkest situations you still have control over how you react to that situation."
It occurred to me that this is what LOTR did for that summer of 2002. It brought me back in touch with my inner values and it helped me find peace amongst a series of situations over which I had no control.
I don't think connecting with LOTR is a form of magical thinking. I'm just saying extrapolating on what this study is saying and using it to help me understand how functions in my life.
thanks for sharing, simplyaven.
LOTR soundtrack website : FOTR Lyrics Update, Oct 2008
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Aerin
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Nov 4 2008, 5:00am
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Your site is a fine resource, for which I was thankful when I began preparing my presentation on the FOTR score and getting ready to sing in the chorus for the LOTR Symphony,
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SirDennisC
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Nov 4 2008, 8:02am
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When I read "I don't want to wake up" a chill went down my spine. Please tell me you mean from the dream life of Middle Earth.
I too went through a period where nothing satisfied. But then it became fun to watch for the ample references to ME that began popping up everywhere. Our culture is forever changed and geeks rule the world now (at least the world's heart and mind).
May you be blessed.
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Nov 4 2008, 9:03am
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As for your question: I have no idea. Having been introduced to Tolkien when I was about eight, and having quite a few things in my life going through some unexpected twists, I can only suspect my being drawn to that alternative universe did influence me, but if so it was in subtle ways.
I guess I would be a different person otherwise - but who can tell in what?
I must say TORn did influence my life in a more direct way - otherwise, I would spend far less time of the internet, or in sites which are not half as good...
"What use you find in them I cannot guess" - Mouth of Sauron
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Elvenhome
Nov 4 2008, 3:45pm
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Woohoo!! Happy TORniversary, Magpie!!
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For everything you've given to us and CONTINUE to give... my deepest gratitude. You've made me appreciate the music and creativity of not only LotR, but for music in general. Your generosity and wisdom never ceases to amaze me. Thank you so much!
And you're also right (as it Tehanu) that I never thought TORn would have such a profound impact on my life. I'm part of a community of such incredibly brilliant, lovely and generous people, I still can't get my head around it. I've travelled, had adventures, took up some writing and artwork, become a LIST fanatic, and have had some of the best times and made the best friends of my life all because of Tolkien and TORn.
Tolkien entered my world when I was very young and became a lifeline... and TORn has been my anchor.
Cheers, Dear Magpie... Here's to 20+ more years!!
*warm hug*
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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SirDennisC
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Nov 4 2008, 3:56pm
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It is comforting to know so many reliable, knowledgeable, and generous people out there of which you are among the chiefest.
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simplyaven
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Nov 4 2008, 4:16pm
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Thanks for sharing all these, Magpie! He's quite influencial, our dear professor Hmm... I wouldn't say his works interfered with my everyday life, I'm still a worker, a partner, a mom but a quite weird one 
Yesterday I wrote a speech for my university class and (of course) it was connected to how Tolkien helped me fight materialism. And I wrote that instead of buying my son plastic toys - I sing to him; instead of taking him to the mall - we walk the woods and I speak of Elves and dwarves, etc. This makes me quite a funny animal in the eyes of many modern moms But I think my son will be quite happy to know there are imaginative worlds beyond the visible one!
Culinary journey through Middle Earth starting October 15 on the Main board
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weaver
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Nov 4 2008, 4:21pm
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Magpie, this is grand. THANK YOU.
Because I read LOTR in college, and then rediscovered it years later, through the films, it is a kind of touchstone for me marking the start of when I set out my door to when I "came back again." There have been all kinds of adventures, from the silly to the profound along the way. My life is better for the good friends who started me out and the new friends found later, the grounding in the "here and now" and the permission to marvel about the "there and beyond" that the tale gives me, the connections made, the support offered, the new insights gained.
There was one particular stretch around the time the films were coming out where everywhere I went I found a Tolkien book I had never known of before -- I'd have an unexpected half hour in my day, wander into a library, and there would be a book sale going on and a copy of Letters there. We traveled to Alaska for a job opportunity -- didn't get the job, but that's where I found HOME. I found Mr. Bliss at a yard sale, and Father Christmas showed up in my mail box one day, a gift from a long lost friend. I did not go looking for those books, they found me.
As I got more involved with TORn, I stopped finding books and started finding friends here who knew about them. I am very glad to have this community, and to be part of something bigger than myself. I work and travel alone, and as a consultant I work with a lot of groups but am never really part of any of them. It was nice to find one place I felt like I "belonged", if that makes sense. The company has been great, and the level of respect and tolerance and humor and the hard work we do to understand each other here are a reminder of the good in people, which is easy to forget when you get bombarded by news about all the awful things people can do, too.
The most unexpected thing that happened to me here was getting to be part of the Encyclopedia project. When I was working on that, I rediscovered the part of myself that liked to research and write that had gotten lost along the way somewhere -- it was like rediscovering bread, or the color green again, if you get my meaning. Now, I'm sorting out where to go with that rediscovery as my kids get older, the demands on my time change, and I start to leave my big working years behind.
So yes, Tolkien has changed my life -- and is continuing to do so. And that, as they say, is a comforting thought.
Thanks for all you do for us around here Magpie and for this latest gift from you. Happy 5th Anniversary to your website and many more. Long live Magpie and her Nest!
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simplyaven
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Nov 4 2008, 4:23pm
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I kind of explained in the post towards Magpie - it's just the influence of Tolkien's words, the world he created - if you remember the letter they publish at the front of FOTR, from Peter S. Beagle - what he says about Middle Earth and that he believes it has always existed, and he calls Tolkien "colonizer of dreams" - that's what I feel too. There is Middle Earth, the question is who will find it
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weaver
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Nov 4 2008, 4:33pm
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This part of your reply here really struck me..
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"You always have control over your values no matter how chaotic the world is around you. And they had a chance to confirm the things they hold dearest in the world and that kind of returned their sense of control to them. Even if you're in a situation where you're wildly chaotic, take a moment to step back and take stock and recognize that, no matter how chaotic this situation is, it's not the entirety of your universe. There's still things you have control over. Even in the worst and darkest situations you still have control over how you react to that situation."
It strikes me that this is exactly what Tolkien gives in the scene with Frodo on Amon Hen, when he sees war everywhere and is torn between the Voice and the Eye, and chooses to just "be Frodo"; Sam's star moment in Mordor is another which echoes your quote above.
Tom Shippey, I think, writes of how Tolkien provides a framework for dealing with the kind of contemporary evils we face, and I think he's right. It's hard not to just want to give up or give in when there's so much struggle and so many challenges, but Tolkien's characters provide a good framework and models for us.
I was very happy the film makers lifted out Gandalf's particular bit of wisdom along these lines -- the "all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you" one, and that they moved it to Moria, where the setting worked to give it power. That's such a strong message of both comfort and direction, and I'm grateful the films gave it a chance to be heard by many who will never read the books.
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Nov 4 2008, 5:21pm
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happened to me, Magpie. When I left the theatre after that first time of seeing Fotr, I had to look down and focus on walking. I was still sobbing; but I wasn't trying to hide my tears. I didn't care about that. I felt like I was between worlds. Between realities... even now having trouble describing it. I knew I had to get to my car and it was all I could do to get there. Once inside, I sobbed uncontrollably for what seemed like hours. I couldn't drive. It was raw emotion and such a release I'd never felt before.
The impact of this film did change my life. I'd been in a deep depression before it came out, and it brought me back.... just as Tolkien's book kept me going, this opened something in me I don't ever want to lose.
Two Towers was still a part of that journey, but the emotional devastation of RotK left me as shattered as FotR did. This was harder, though... because it was the end of the journey. Those beautiful faces during the credits along with the music have me undone. I literally felt like I was at the Havens never to return from life as it had been for over 40 years before... and I still haven't... and I'm so grateful. My life is richer than I could ever have hoped for; but now the beauty of the music, the story, those characters and the players/writers who brought them to life makes me feel a deep sadness... leaving a beautiful scar... that will never leave me. A profound joy that understands loss and how precious everything is. I'm still left that way even today when I watch the films.
I read from LotR every night before going to sleep just as I have done for all these years, and the films have given the story a heartbeat.
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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Nov 4 2008, 7:37pm
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I loved your mathom. I am looking forward to meeting you in person.
The books, the movies and learning more about JRRT has just made me want to be a better person, and even more so......that there is some good in this world and it's worth living for.
Hope you have a grrrreat day Magpie!!!!!
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Nov 4 2008, 9:39pm
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Many happy returns of your TORniversary, Magpie!
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What an incredible mathom! Your musical expertise, and all that you've been able to accomplish with the scores, and all your artistic ability - these are rich gifts indeed, and we are so blessed by your sharing them with us! Many, many thanks!
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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Nov 4 2008, 11:53pm
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was really the big "The End" best signoff on the whole experience of following all 3 movies from the buzz up through the Oscars and ROTK EE; that it's not "the end" but we'll go off in different directions inspired to do new things
I do read Magpie's Nest alot when i have specific questions, but I'm always meaning to sit down and read it start to finish but can never find the time...
(ugh) probably the next time I'm able to sit down and marathon all 3 Extended DVDs with Commentary tracks and I'm trying to make a comprehensive list of stuff
(you should try to linkify Magpie's Next more in like, Google lists-by-category of LOTR fansites and such)
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name, but what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game"
Formerly known on TORN as "Draug the Unspeakably Violent"
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Nov 5 2008, 2:05am
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Some of us are all a little older, a little greyer, a little wider .. ok I speak for myslf
But alot wiser and happier and grateful you have blessed us with your gift of being here, and your endless and tireless work on the music - such wonderful gifts!
Happy tORNiversary Magpie! 
Cheers
Elven
Were off to Hobbiton finally!
Tolkien was a Capricorn!!
Russell Crowe for Beorn!!
Avatar: Liberace - The other Lord of the Rings.
Quote of The Week: The thing is I always write in the morning and I know that if I go to the Net I won’t write ... you can start in the most scholarly website and end up at Paris Hilton dot com .. GdT
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Nov 5 2008, 2:14am
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I love your site, though I must admit, I have to be careful when I go in there, otherwise I find myself wandering around in there for hours.
*Big Hug*
Kel x
Valinor, O Valinor
Andavë yányë hyarya
Tumna yá nyčna minya fëa
An Valinor, lissë Eldamar
Kelvarhin's Universe~~~~~~~Laerasea's Travelling TORn Journal
One book to rule them all
One book to find them
One book to bring them all
And in TORn bind them
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play
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Finding Frodo
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Nov 5 2008, 3:58am
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How has my life changed because of Tolkien? Honestly, because I came to Tolkien when I was only 9 years old, his writings are just part of my life. It's TORn that made the bigger change in terms of new friends, new learning and new adventures.
Where's Frodo?
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Laerasëa
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Nov 5 2008, 4:43am
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You said on the site
5 years ago today A Magpie's Nest went live. It was at a different geocities address and it looked very different. But there are parts of this website that are essentially the same as what was in that website.
Out of curiosity, I was wondering which parts of AMN were virtually unchanged?
I love the new blog, BTW!!! I'm working on figuring out exactly how it works (hah, don't you just love my internet skills...). I'll get it soon!
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Site Updates:
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There is also a comments page- anyone can leave a comment or question, but please stick to TORn rules on posting!
"Who needs drugs when you spend all your money on books?"
-Menelwyn
"A friend helps you find your Silmaril. A true friend helps you slay kin, cross icy wastes, battle your rellies, lose your hand to a Dark Lord and cast yourself into a fissure in the earth."
-Ataahua
"...But life has thus far failed to adjust itself to my liking, so I soldier on."
-Magpie
"I just thought I would share this story, because today is a great day."
-Hobbiton
"True nerddom/geekdom/dorkdom does not kick in until you are in your 50s taking a nerd/geek/dork test on the discussion board of an internet fan site for a fantasy novel/film."
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Nov 5 2008, 5:10am
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It was a joy to hear of your baptismal into Tolkien and how profoundly you were 'taken' :). It means a lot to me, strengthens me knowing that you were filled with wonder as i was, as everyone here was. Each time someone lays it on the line in trust to relate their personal experience is really is a exquisite thing.
''So my question to you is, how has your life changed because of Tolkien? Or, alternately, how does it all matter? What importance has any of the works associated with Tolkien had in your life? ''
Most of what i feel is there in my footer and my bio but what i could say beyond that is, i was for a long time reaching for substance in this life. With the inner family physical abuse, alcoholism and shallow relationships there and throughout my life i was in real need to find something true and right that could be felt, could be embraced whole-heartedly, something i could take 'council' in, something that warmed the heart. I found all that, along with such profound beauty that it brought emotional catharsis. It was something which was able to leave me whole in the end.
I will just say Magpie, i am glad you are here:). And thank you for your diligence and love to the work you have done. It is truly amazing.
"Tolkien, like Lewis, believed that, through story, the real world would become a more magical place, full of meaning. We see its patterns and colors in a fresh way. The recovery of a true view of the world applies both to individual things, like hills and stones, and to the cosmic - the depths of space and time itself. For in sub-creation, in Tolkien's view, there is a "survey" of space and time. Reality is captured on a miniature scale. Through stories like The Lord of the Rings, a renewed view of things is given, illuminating the homely, the spiritial, the physical, and the moral dimensions of the world."
Tolkien and C.S. Lewis- The Gift of Friendship -Duriez
After Sunset
I have an understanding with the hills
At evening, when slanted radiance fills
Their hollows, and the great winds let them be,
And they are quiet and look down at me.
Oh, then I see the patience in their eyes
Out of the centuries that made them wise.
They lend me hoarded memory, and I learn
Their thoughts of granite and their whims of fern,
And why a dream of forests must endure
Though every tree be slain; and how the pure,
Invisible beauty has a word so brief
A flower can say it, or a shaken leaf,
But few may ever snare it in a song,
Though for the quest a life is not too long.
When the blue hills grow tender, when they pull
The twilight close with gesture beautiful,
And shadows are their garments, and the air
Deepens, and the wild veery is at prayer,
Their arms are strong around me; and I know
That somehow I shall follow where you go
To the still land beyond the evening star,
Where everlasting hills and valleys are,
And silence may not hurt us any more,
And terror shall be past, and grief and war.
Grace Hazard Conkling (conclusion of a song recital from the book Lake Minnewaska by W Doughty where he says ''this is not the end of songs which we are certain will continue to rise from gifted minds and hearts in this enchanted realm where sometimes 'great mists lie' but always where 'great dreams rise' ''.) ...Reminds me particularly of the elves and the ents
May the grace of Manwë let us soar with eagle's wings!
In the air, among the clouds in the sky
Here is where the birds of Manwe fly
Looking at the land, and the water that flows
The true beauty of earth shows
With the stars of Varda lighting my way
In all the realms this is where I stay
In the realm of Manwë Súlimo
By El~Cugu
From the website: 'The Realm of Manwe'
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