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2008 USA Presidential Election
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Poll: 2008 USA Presidential Election
Bob Barr (Libertarian)
John McCain (Republican)
Ralph Nader (Independent)
Barack Obama (Democratic)
Someone Else
Eligible, but not voting
US citizen but ineligible to vote (age, etc.)
Not a US citizen
View Results (79 votes)
 

acheron
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 3:38pm

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2008 USA Presidential Election Can't Post

Let's give this a try. Who are you planning to vote for in the upcoming US presidential election?

The candidate list is in alphabetical order by last name, if you were curious. In my state at least, there are two more candidates that I didn't include; if you're a dedicated Cynthia McKinney fan, I apologize.

I almost included an "undecided" option too, but, well, if you're undecided, wait until you do decide, and come back and vote then.

Play nice in the comments please. Smile


Woodyend
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 6:15pm

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I have already voted for Obama. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2008, 6:31pm

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Good for you [In reply to] Can't Post

us Canadians are hoping he wins as well.


acheron
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 6:33pm

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oh right [In reply to] Can't Post

Ah yes, early voting. I did that in 2000, and then voted by mail in 2002. I liked voting by mail, because I could sit there with the ballot and research all the candidates for the minor state and local offices. That was when I voted in Ohio; there are a lot fewer offices being voted on in Virginia elections, I've noticed. I suppose part of it is that VA elects governor/etc on an off year (Nov. 2009 is the next time the governor is up), so it's not everything all at once.


acheron
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 6:36pm

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oh, canada [In reply to] Can't Post

For the first time in awhile, the US is (likely) going to have a more left-wing leader than you guys do. ;)

I have liked what I've read about Harper, but it's always hard to evaluate candidates from other countries. What do you think of him?


Ciars
Rohan


Oct 27 2008, 6:42pm

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Obama [In reply to] Can't Post

at least that's who I would vote for if I was American and eligible to vote!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 27 2008, 7:08pm

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He's been forced [In reply to] Can't Post

to be less extreme right than his party members would like thanks to two successive minority governments (elected the latest one two weeks ago). Many shudder to think what he would do with a majority. He has been a bit of a regional Prime Minister and his home province has thrived under him. However the rest of Canada, especially Ontario (where he has little support) has not faired so well to put it mildly. The region I'm in has been devasted by his free market ideas.

The only bright spot really is the Canadian dollar is falling in relation to the US dollar. The film industry is starting to look north again (Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal) where their dollars will go further.


Woodyend
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 8:08pm

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My husband and I, are like two blueberries in an ocean of red sauce....... [In reply to] Can't Post

here in Texas, but we still vote whenever we can. The line was out the door, which was better then in years past, when we just walked up to the booth.


Woodyend
Gondor


Oct 27 2008, 8:10pm

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It would be interesting to see, [In reply to] Can't Post

for those members who are not old enough to vote, or who are not US citizens, who they would have voted for.


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 27 2008, 11:04pm

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Obama [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm pretty liberal, so he agrees with my views. I voted a week ago.

I saw him speak at Colorado State University yesterday. He reminds me so much of RFK.


(This post was edited by Aunt Dora Baggins on Oct 27 2008, 11:04pm)


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 27 2008, 11:05pm

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I agree. [In reply to] Can't Post

It could be a separate poll, if we want to see whether this one is an accurate prediction.


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 27 2008, 11:08pm

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I like early voting at the polling place. [In reply to] Can't Post

We have "polling stations" here for early voting, fewer than the locations on election day. There's one not far from my house, so it still has the feeling I love of rubbing shoulders with my neighbors (most of whom disagree with me, but are nice about it). From the time I was a little kid my parents would take us along when they voted, and it just has a really nice feeling for me.


batik
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2008, 11:48pm

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I voted yesterday afternoon [In reply to] Can't Post

no long lines but there were other voters there. I think about 4% of the county's registered voters had voted by last Tuesday afternoon.


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 3:56am

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In more ways than one [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems authorities uncovered a plot to assassinate Obama already.

From cbc.ca:


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"Two white supremacists allegedly plotted to go on a national killing rampage, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, federal authorities said Monday."



Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 4:31am

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Shhhhh [In reply to] Can't Post

Please don't go there.


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 4:36am

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Here was my favorite part of his speech. [In reply to] Can't Post

Now, make no mistake: the change we need won’t come easy or without cost. We will all need to tighten our belts, we will all need to sacrifice and we will all need to pull our weight because now more than ever, we are all in this together.

At a defining moment like this, we don’t have the luxury of relying on the same political games and the same political tactics that are used every election to divide us from one another and make us afraid of one another. With the challenges and crises we face right now, we cannot afford to divide this country by class or region; by who we are or what policies we support.

There are no real or fake parts of this country. We are not separated by the pro-America and anti-America parts of this nation – we all love this country, no matter where we live or where we come from. There are patriots who supported this war in Iraq and patriots who opposed it; patriots who believe in Democratic policies and those who believe in Republican policies. The men and women from Colorado and all across America who serve on our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America – they have served the United States of America.

We have always been at our best when we’ve had leadership that called us to look past our differences and come together as one nation, as one people; leadership that rallied this entire country to a common purpose – to a higher purpose. And I am running for President of the United States of America because that is the country we need to be right now.

This country and the dream it represents are being tested in a way that we haven’t seen in nearly a century. And future generations will judge ours by how we respond to this test. Will they say that this was a time when America lost its way and its purpose? When we allowed the same divisions and fear tactics and our own petty differences to plunge this country into a dark and painful recession?

Or will they say that this was another one of those moments when America overcame? When we battled back from adversity by recognizing that common stake that we have in each other’s success?

This is one of those moments. I realize you’re cynical and fed up with politics. I understand that you’re disappointed and even angry with your leaders. You have every right to be. But despite all of this, I ask of you what’s been asked of the American people in times of trial and turmoil throughout our history. I ask you to believe – to believe in yourselves, in each other, and in the future we can build together.

Together, we cannot fail. Not now. Not when we have a crisis to solve and an economy to save. Not when there are so many Americans without jobs and without homes. Not when there are families who can’t afford to see a doctor, or send their child to college, or pay their bills at the end of the month. Not when there is a generation that is counting on us to give them the same opportunities and the same chances that we had for ourselves.

We can do this. Americans have done this before. Some of us had grandparents or parents who said maybe I can't go to college but my child can; maybe I can't have my own business but my child can. I may have to rent, but maybe my children will have a home they can call their own. I may not have a lot of money but maybe my child will run for Senate. I might live in a small village but maybe someday my son can be president of the United States of America.


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 4:44am

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Apologies [In reply to] Can't Post

I really want him to win. American politics have a huge impact on my country and it's time for a different perspective.


ElanorTX
Grey Havens


Oct 28 2008, 5:36am

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what an image! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


NorskGudTor
The Shire


Oct 28 2008, 7:17am

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eh [In reply to] Can't Post

I wont vote for either one. Lesser of two evils I'm afraid. This two party dominated system is the true failure. Lobbyists pay out to both of them to break even. Once they get in office they owe favors. Our political system is a farce. If I was forced (at gun point) I would pick a Libertarian candidate. They look to hold true to what the founding ideals this country was based on. Not to skirt it with bills and infringement on our civil rights.


visualweasel
Rohan


Oct 28 2008, 2:27pm

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Ditto :) [In reply to] Can't Post

Two blueberries on raspberry coulis. Wink

My wife and I early-voted on the first day (a week ago Monday). No glitches, no lines. It was busy, but not so much that we didn't get right in and out. I'm actually not a Democrat per se, though I am liberal-minded on most policy issues — though I also think I'm pretty open-minded and reasonably free from partisan prejudice. I do tend to vote Democrat almost invariably, but I'm not a supporter of a two-party system that squeezes out independents. TMI?

The nice thing about Dallas is that is has been steadily trending bluer. The bad thing is that my district (like most others in the state) is so ridiculously gerrymandered that what should be an urban liberal majority is instead gobbled up by the even larger conservative and theocratic rural masses. Therefore, my Congressman (Jeb Hensarling) is pretty much my political antithesis. He seems like a nice guy, though.

Take a look at my district, with its tiny piece of Dallas and its ginormous rural appendage:



acheron
Gondor


Oct 28 2008, 2:48pm

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I think it will be [In reply to] Can't Post

An accurate prediction, that is.. in that I expect the board to generally go for Obama, and I also expect Obama to win. So.


Darkstone
Immortal


Oct 28 2008, 3:05pm

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O'Bama [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice Irish name.


Besides, I'm confident he'll turn the country away from the creeping socialism of the past 8 years that culminated in the nationalization of the banking industry.

(Conservative ideologues my Aunt Petunia!! The current Republican leadership is slightly to the left of Karl Marx!!)


Plus I'm hoping he'll end corporate welfare.

(All those welfare CEOs driving around in brand new Rolls-Royces with umpteen mistresses we hardworking taxpayers have to support! Stop sending them government checks and make them get real jobs like the rest of us!!!)


Finally, yes, I'm hoping he'll spread the wealth around.

(Just like manure, it really starts to stink when it's all piled up in one place. And certain sections of America like Haliburton and Blackwater *really* stink!!!)


But Obama is my second choice. I'd have voted for the 2000 McCain if he had ran this year. Whatever happened to that guy?


(This post was edited by Darkstone on Oct 28 2008, 3:06pm)


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 3:06pm

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Thanks. [In reply to] Can't Post

I just had a visceral reaction, because I will never ever forget June 6, 1968. I don't ever want our country to go through something like that again.

I think we're a lot more conscious about security since then, but I did notice that on Sunday, after they checked the first several thousand people who came through the gates, they just opened the gates and let the rest of us in, since he'd already started speaking. We were pretty far away, so I suppose they thought it was safe. It's not like the early days in 1968 when RFK would take an open car through crowded streets, shaking hands with everyone who happened to be there.


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Oct 28 2008, 3:08pm

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Irish :-) I was thinking that last night. [In reply to] Can't Post

I was watching the Music Man: "All the great trombone players were Irish: O'Clark, O'Mendez, O'Klein."


Darkstone
Immortal


Oct 28 2008, 3:41pm

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"O'Brien to Ryan to Goldberg" [In reply to] Can't Post

"All the great trombone players were Irish: O'Clark, O'Mendez, O'Klein."

Also reminds me of the song about the double-play combo in "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" (1949)".

There's also the 1910 poem about the real life Chicago Cubs double-combo of Tinker to Evers to Chance, here slightly modified:

These are the saddest of possible words:
"O'Bama to Biden to Pelosi."
Trio of Democrats fleeter than birds,
"O'Bama and Biden and Pelosi."
Ruthlessly pricking the Republican bubble,
Making a Neo-Con hit into a double --
Words that are heavy with nothing but trouble:
"O'Bama to Biden to Pelosi."

(with apologies to Franklin Pierce Adams)


(This post was edited by Darkstone on Oct 28 2008, 3:42pm)

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