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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 1:46am

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Doug Adams has just announced that the release of his book, The Music of the LOTR Films, will be tied in to 'another major release'. The downside is they are no longer considering November, 2008 as a potential release date. The upside, however, is that the whole project will take on a larger scale. Doug writes:
Deluxe just got deluxe-er… again… heck, even standard got deluxe-er this time! Oh, and if you're still not convinced, let it be noted that you're also likely to get significantly more unused music in your hands this way. Yes, I said "significantly."

The intriguing question that remains is, what is this other 'major release'?

Let the speculation begin. :-)

Read more at Doug's blog.




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hobbitlove
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Sep 19 2008, 3:01am

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What I really want and what we may get, wonderful as it will be, I'm sure, is not always the same thing. I want a lot and keep hoping for, well, for more of what we have been so lucky to have from our film-family.
So, what will this major release be? Can't begin to guess.
Still, I want Doug Adams and Howard Shore over for dinner (okay, others can come), and I want Fran and Philippa to spend a week talking about the lyrics and the music and the movies - just hang around with us geeks.
Well, you get the idea.
We uber-geeks (proud to be one) can't get enough, can we? I want everything to do with these films and this score but I will be happy for whatever I can get.
Great story, my friend.
hob

PS: Do we thank you for that piece on the BB's birthday party Saturday, too?



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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 3:05am

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No, that must have been sent to spymaster. Corvar wrote it.



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Compa_Mighty
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Sep 19 2008, 4:25am

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The Ultra Pre-Hobbit build-up almost 10 year anniversary Blu-ray Ultimate Trilogy collector's edition box-set [In reply to] Can't Post

These things are cool, but just how deluxe can deluxe get? Tongue

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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 9:15am

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I'm thinking it must be Blu Ray [In reply to] Can't Post

With maybe more deleted scenes? It just seems to early to tie it in any way to the Hobbit. At least I hope it isn't going to be delayed 'that' much. Doug did say, "And yes, I'll be hopping right on to The Hobbit." meaning he'll move immediately from the LOTR book to writing about the Hobbit score. So that indicates a progression in the time line... LOTR then Hobbit. (Apparently he and Howard talked a bit about the Hobbit so it's nice to hear that that's getting some thought and attention already)

The whole idea that by tying in with this other project the book one will get bigger is interesting. That seems to indicate that making the book project bigger will enhance the other project. Or maybe they just save enough on marketing costs by tying in with this other project that they have more room in the budget for more stuff.

Besides having more music in it, there's a filming component:

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Once I've made the latest set of revisions (during which I'll probably try and track down a few more interviewees), Shore and I will plan out three or four upcoming four trips to his office. Each of those trips will be filled with a bit of research, a bit of planning, and a bit of filming. We may also do a little filming in Europe.






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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome


Sep 19 2008, 10:21am

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This is significant [In reply to] Can't Post

*twitch* Oh I Hope So! Good things are worth waiting for... but it doesn't make it any easier. omg. I have the feeling I have yet another new love coming into my life with this release.

Thanks Magpie... and Doug Adams :D





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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 10:59am

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It could also be something connected with the symphony [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe the debut of the TT symphony live music to film?



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FantasyFan
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Sep 19 2008, 12:30pm

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I don't have anything to play Blue Ray, and I would hate the thought of there being deleted scenes out there that I wouldn't be able to see!


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Finrod, Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, HoME X Morgoth's Ring



Compa_Mighty
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Sep 19 2008, 2:25pm

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Well, any possibility is interesting... [In reply to] Can't Post

And it's great to see *any* serious talk about The Hobbit at this stage...

Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!

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Laerasėa
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Sep 19 2008, 3:37pm

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I love watching the symphony.....*eyeballs White Gull's post below...*

(it's on my "top ten things to do" list to see the symphony live now)

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Sep 19 2008, 3:40pm

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Still, I want Doug Adams and Howard Shore over for dinner (okay, others can come)


That would be nice! I'd be sure to have all of my (well, Menelwyn's) music stuff out on display. I'd come up with a list of questions to ask!!

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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 3:41pm

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And you realize there are two symphonies now? [In reply to] Can't Post

One plays a kind of synopsis version of the entire trilogy. That's been around awhile. The other plays the entire score for the FOTR theatrical release movie. (I'm pretty sure it's theatrical...) live while the movie is projected on screen. I don't know if this has actually made it to the US, yet.

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Sep 19 2008, 3:43pm

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Unused scenes [In reply to] Can't Post

I've always maintained that the unused music should be cued with the unused scenes (wherever relevant ofc) and I think with Bluray's capacity, noone's going to be satisfied with simply the EEs in Uber-High-Res. I mean, there's got to be something else, even if it isn't this, but wouldn't it be nice if it WAS this? Tongue I think I'm getting ahead of myself... as always, it's probably best to watch and wait and not spasm out of control Angelic

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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 3:44pm

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Cute Howard Shore moment [In reply to] Can't Post

although... I suppose only a 'girl' would call it cute.

From the Ongoing Discussion thread on Doug's blog:

Doug: I actually drove with Howard and his wife to the opera house (in LA to see The Fly) Saturday night. Upon arrival, I found that will call had somehow managed to lose my ticket. After several minutes of back and forth (they though I was trying to scam them!), Howard leaned his head in the ticket window and said, "Can you just please give him a ticket!?"

Magpie: LOL! okay... what was Howard's intonation for this? I can just picture this slight smile on his face.

Doug: Bemused frustration. :)




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Laerasėa
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Sep 19 2008, 3:48pm

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That'd be fun to see, too! Are they planning on doing it for TTT and ROTK as well? Hee...I'm picturing an official day for Major Major Trilogy Day. Crazy That would be intense.

...and thanks! Like yours, too! (Aarrr!!!)

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Laerasėa
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Sep 19 2008, 3:52pm

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Me too, actually.


You know, Shore sounds like a pretty nice guy. That just seems kind of rare for composers (ever heard an interview with Elfman? I love him, but he's not necessarily someone I'd like to meet). Ok, so yes, that goes on my list of "Things I'd Love but are Never Actually Going to Happen"- Shore and Adams over for dinner (along with me being allowed to ask them whatever music questions I want).

(thanks, Hobbitlove, for the idea! You can come, too!)

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"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is."
- Yogi Berra

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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 3:53pm

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It seems to me that it has to be of a certain significance. The 'other project' wouldn't be just a particular concert somewhere, right? I mean, you wouldn't market that so heavily to start tie ins. You market a concert to the people who live nearby... or at least on the same continent.

Additionally, I think sometimes soundtrack fans overestimate the strength of their community. It has internal strength and strong devotion but it doesn't have breadth. It doesn't span a wide demographic. To be honest, I'm not sure I would buy a dvd of the symphony and I'm a fairly devoted fan.

So my brain kind of wanders around a number of possibilities for upcoming projects that would meat a certain threshold of importance that a tie in would be of some benefit to both parties. It certainly could be related to another music project. But I can't come up with one that meets my threshold. Not that it needs to meet my threshold only that I'm just using that to work things out.

I think the filming aspect of it might be a clue of some sort and the fact that we'll get 'significantly' more music. I'm not being terribly convinced about any of my ideas at the moment. But then I'm comfortable with mystery so I'm not highly motivated, either.




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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 4:14pm

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Yes, I believe TTT and ROTK are in the works [In reply to] Can't Post

Although my brain tends to absorb things I'm connected to and since these concerts are never near me the details tend to blur. So I'm not the best source of information on them. We need Sabsi here. Wonders if a whistle would work.



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Doug Adams
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Sep 19 2008, 6:11pm

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I love watching speculation run rampant! :)

...Actually, I'm just glad that you guys are so understanding. I figured you'd be calling for blood after this delay. What a thoughtful community!

-Doug Adams

PS - Danny Elfman is a fiery guy, but very kind in person.


Patty
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Sep 19 2008, 6:31pm

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Welcome, Mr. Adams! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm going to go all geeky and say that I hope the release of your book is tied to a soon to be released BLU RAY edition of the EEs, with even more extended scenes.

The electronics stores (and book stores!) won't know what hit them.

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Laerasėa
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Sep 19 2008, 6:31pm

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Wow, you've met him!?!? [In reply to] Can't Post

Did you get to talk to him about music? That's so cool!!! He was my second-favorite composer ever, and the first composer that I ever actually followed (as in, "Laera, do you want to go see the Hulk this summer?" "Oh, sure! I heard Elfman did the music, so. it must be good!"). I'm glad to hear that he's a nice guy. I've heard a couple of interviews with him, and he seemed kind of assertive (fiery, that's a good way of putting it), but I guess that's not really a great way to decide on whether someone's nice or not (and I just like nice people).

And no blood, don't worry. (which is lucky for you, because it's Talk Like A Pirate Day! Arrrr!)

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- Napoleon Bonaparte

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is."
- Yogi Berra

"The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad."
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Long John Mithril
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Sep 19 2008, 6:37pm

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I be callin' fer blood even if me mateys aren't. [In reply to] Can't Post

Give us the scurvy book, ye lubbers! Arrrrr.


FantasyFan
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Sep 19 2008, 7:04pm

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No blood yet [In reply to] Can't Post

But we are eager. My request is that you please release the book, whenever it is ready, to coincide with either my birthday or some other gift giving event!

(Just kidding. I am really looking forward to this.)


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hobbitlove
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Sep 19 2008, 7:20pm

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Oh, L.Ron! You just made my day. Fun stuff this. Gad, we're swimmin' with the big fish, ain't we?

Reckin' ye best keep yer pie-hole shut, me friend, if'n yer don' want trubble.
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Magpie
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Sep 19 2008, 8:17pm

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A clue? [In reply to] Can't Post

Alan in a comment to Doug's blog entry noticed that Doug wrote this:

"this choice will make the Big Reveal even more momentous"

and that Big Reveal was capitalized : B R suggesting perhaps 'Blu Ray'?

I tell you, Doug is just wicked enough to engage in this sort of clue baiting and has done similar things in the past.




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