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Possible lahar on Mr Ruapehu/Mt Doom

Ataahua
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Mar 18 2007, 1:08am

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Radio news has just reported that the expected lahar on Mt Ruapehu (where the Mt Doom scenes were filmed) might have occurred half an hour ago. Warning systems around the mountain have been triggered and the Department of Conservation is trying to confirm the event - made difficult by bad weather obstructing views. As a precaution, roads around the mountain have been closed.

FYI, Eledhwen, Shuya and djdeathskiss (who all planned to do the Tongariro Crossing in this past week) are all safely away from this area.

News from stuff.co.nz: http://www.stuff.co.nz/3997143a10.html

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Revie
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Mar 18 2007, 3:00am

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lahar = volcanic mudslide? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm a little shaky on my terminology, is that the correct definition of lahar?

I didn't know this was expected to happen. Would this have been caused by heavy rains, or by an earthquake, Ataahua?

I hope everyone is safely away from the danger zone!

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Eledhwen
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Mar 18 2007, 4:51am

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It's not caused by an external thing - it's all to do with Ruapehu, which erupts fairly regularly anyway apparently. They've been monitoring the Crater Lake for a few months as its level was rising. When it hits the edge, boom, there's your lahar. My family and I spent Thursday in the visitors' centre at Whakapapa below Ruapehu instead of doing the Tongariro Crossing because the weather was so bad, hence my useful knowledge of volcanoes!

I'll put something here shortly ...


Ataahua
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Mar 18 2007, 6:31am

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The pictures on TV [In reply to] Can't Post

were awesome. TV3 had a helicopter in front of the lahar and we saw it overwhelm a bridge and road, a campground and (ironically) the Tangiwai Memorial, where a lahar about 50 years ago wiped out the Tangiwai Bridge right before a train came along and crashed into the river, killing many passengers.

DOC and the Government are happy because the disaster plan worked, in that the lahar travelled down the river and out to sea without loss of life.

Apparently lahars are relatively regular from Ruapehu, but I think the last eruptions caused a higher dam wall which meant there was a greater volume of ash and water built up for this latest event. It was quite frightening to see that huge volume coming down the river system.

DOC will be inspecting the crater lake tomorrow to see what has happened up there and whether any more water is likely to come down the mountain anytime soon.

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Sauron: "Mine's better."

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Annael
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Mar 18 2007, 3:15pm

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found an article with a pic [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/3997152a6004.html

Impressive. Reminds me of Mount St. Helens here.

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Mar 18 2007, 7:00pm

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So how close is Deej to this? [In reply to] Can't Post

Quite a week to be in New Zeland!

Hope all is well.

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Ataahua
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Mar 18 2007, 7:06pm

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Last I heard [In reply to] Can't Post

she was in Wellington.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
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Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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deej
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Mar 18 2007, 9:45pm

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&^%$#!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yep - we have both in Wellington (technically Lower Hutt) since Saturday. Shuya just saw the news about this today. Yes, we were planning to do the hike on Friday, but because of the bad weather we couldn't so we decided to drive down to see the Pinnacles instead. Thank you lousy weather!

*gulp*

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(This post was edited by deej on Mar 18 2007, 9:46pm)


Ataahua
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Mar 18 2007, 10:34pm

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The lousy weather that stopped your hike [In reply to] Can't Post

was possibly also the tipping point for the crater lake's tephra dam.

The lahar had to go sometime. At least it went when people were least likely to be out and about on the river (due to the heavy rain).

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Magrat
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Mar 19 2007, 12:32am

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Yikes [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad you guys weren't in the area!

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grammaboodawg
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Mar 19 2007, 1:09am

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Strange it would be 1 week before the story's eruption [In reply to] Can't Post

when the Ring is destroyed.

Thank Goodness deej, Shuya and all are safe. Fate has been kind.


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Ataahua
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Mar 19 2007, 3:22am

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Good news from a mountain management point of view: [In reply to] Can't Post

Mt Ruapehu's crater lake has returned to its pre-1995 level after the dam holding back the acidic waters washed away yesterday and a lahar flowed down the mountainside.
The Department of Conservation (DOC) said the new level of the crater lake was 2529.4 metres above sea level, with the 40-metre breach in the dam washing down to hard rock.
DOC senior conservation officer Dave Wakelin said DOC staff had been up to the crater and the tephra dam Ė loosely compacted ash, scoria and pumice Ė had washed down to rock on the crater's rim.
"It's great news from our point of view,' he said.
"Now we have a crater lake back to what it was pre-1995. It's flowing down its natural outlet, rather than building up behind the dam."


Full story and pic: http://www.stuff.co.nz/3998184a10.html


Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Patty
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Mar 19 2007, 3:41pm

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Scarey. [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad all my TORNsibs are safe, but since for some it may be a once in a life time trip I'm sorry it may keep them from doing the touristy thing they may have wanted to do.

Welcome to Rivendell, Patty Baggins


Revie
Rivendell


Mar 19 2007, 11:50pm

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YouTube footage [In reply to] Can't Post

Some footage taken 20 minutes after the main event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4kEriRo3U

Even more dramatic shots via helicopter:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/videoplayer/99903a15455.html

Pretty amazing!

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Eledhwen
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Mar 20 2007, 1:57am

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That was the weather, not the lahar [In reply to] Can't Post

I was supposed to do the Tongariro Crossing on Thursday with my family, and Shuya and DJ were planning on doing it on Friday. But when we arrived in the village that is the usual base for the crossing on Wednesday it was raining, cloudy and VERY windy. Winds were getting up above 100kph on the top, which is way too windy for walking. And visibility was nil. It didn't improve at all, and that was why we had to cancel.

I'll put something here shortly ...

 
 

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