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BBC Episode II The Black Riders Bag End to Woody End


Jun 11 2008, 2:36am

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Again, feel free to respond to my questions, ask one of your own or expand on something!

Here is where I am planning on breaking up the rest of this Episode:
Tuesday: Bag End to Woody End
Wednesday Farmer Maggot to Bree
Thursday: Prancing Pony
Friday: Back in the Room
Saturday: Wrapping it Up

So today's episode follows Frodo, Sam and Pippin from leaving Bag End, to their encounter with the Black Rider in Woody End. May not seem like it but there is lots here if we want to look at it.

1. What is your impression of the encounter of the Gaffer with the Black Rider? How does this scene add to the ongoing tension regarding the Black Riders (or whatever you wish to call it, tension, conflict etc).

2. Does the Black Rider at the Gaffer's come across menacing enough for you? Compare the voice of The Black Rider (Khamul) to the voice/acting of the Lord of the Nazgul. Which Nazgul fits your view of how they sound, or do you have your own version in your mind that is different? Brings up the point that I really like the audio version because it still engages the mind and the imagination.

3. During the trek from Bag End to Woody End we meet Merry and Pippin, and really get to meet Pippin. What is your view of Pippin's character so far in this adaptation? Are there any actions that show his personality that stick out to you as you listen?

4. Sam calls Pippin Mr. Peregin during this part of the episode. Are there indicators the episode that show that there are different social classes that exist among the four hobbits?

5. This was mentioned in the last post, and I had it in my notes so I'm going to include it here. What do you think of Frodo's recitation of the Road Goes Ever On? Does it set a stage for what Frodo is about to embark into?

6. As a single Black Rider approaches the three Hobbits in Woody End, we hear the sound of hoofs that are distinct and very different. This sound is used whenever a Black Rider approaches. Do you like this distinction? Is there any way that you would change this if you were to redo this adaptation?

7. As the Ring tempts Frodo we hear the Black Riders chanting in the background with Gandalf reviewing his counsel to Frodo. What feelings are conveyed by this scene to the listener?

8. Finally, the Black Rider rides off, and soon thereafter we hear his cry. I have always struggled with the sound that the Black Riders make while pursuing Frodo. Does this sound fit with how you hear their cry in your mind?

Yes, lots of questions, just want to put out some thoughts, don't worry about answering all of them. From yesterday's post if you have a paperback version of Unfinished Tales the Search for the Ring which contains much of what Brian Sibley put in to the episode is found on pages 350 to 370.

" . . . (we are ) too engrossed in thinking of everything as a preparation or training or making one fit -- for what? At any minute it is what we are and are doing, not what we plan to be and do that counts."

J.R.R. Tolkien in his 6 October 1940 letter to his son Michael Tolkien.

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BBC Episode II The Black Riders Bag End to Woody End ArathornJax Send a private message to ArathornJax Jun 11 2008, 2:36am
    sound effects Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jun 11 2008, 2:51am
    Thoughts Huan71 Send a private message to Huan71 Jun 11 2008, 11:22am
    Thoughts & notes as I listened grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jun 11 2008, 7:27pm
    Engaging the imagination Jazmine Send a private message to Jazmine Jun 11 2008, 9:01pm
    The road goes ever on and on ... Idril Celebrindal Send a private message to Idril Celebrindal Jun 14 2008, 12:39am
    The Black Riders... Patty Send a private message to Patty Jun 14 2008, 12:59am
    Also ... Idril Celebrindal Send a private message to Idril Celebrindal Jun 14 2008, 1:09am


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