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Empedocles
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Jun 4 2008, 6:08pm
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They already know..........................
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Doesn't this say "We already know who we're going to cast as Bilbo, the actor knows, he hasn't signed yet and therefore we cannot say anything at present, but he already knows ".
Whoever he is, he has to be the happiest actor in the world right now.
Please, give us back Glorfindel!!!
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merklynn
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Jun 4 2008, 6:20pm
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Hmmm... I doubt they have committed themselves. I take GDT at his word that nothing is definite yet.
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Woodyend
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Jun 4 2008, 7:03pm
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I thought PJ realized he had cast the part of Aragorn to young, and that's when he was replaced. Also I read somewhere that the first actor had a different view on how to play Aragorn than PJ had.
They have someone in mind, sure. But doesn't it take a while to make it official? And I'm sure they'd hate to announce their main character and then have him back out *cough*Aragorn*cough*
Maybe I'm just really terrible at reading between the lines, though?
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 4 2008, 7:11pm
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McAvoy a Christmas Hobbit? Baggins announcement set for December. by Chris Tilly, IGN UK UK, June 4, 2008 - As Hobbit casting rumours continue to circulate, we caught up with director Guillermo del Toro this morning to quiz him regarding the project. Unfortunately, he kept his cards close to his chest regarding actors, but he did give us a clue as to when an announcement will be made.
When asked if fan favourite James McAvoy had bagged the the Bilbo Baggins role, he replied: "Not yet. Not yet James McAvoy, not yet Jack Black, or Daniel Radcliffe. There's nothing to fear or celebrate yet.
"In six months time we should know," he continued. "We will try to give that casting news at Christmas as a gift."
 - Kevin Mazur/WireImage.com Spot the difference: Can you see McAvoy as Bilbo?
So there you have it; six months till GDT announces his Bilbo, which gives us six months to try and persuade him one way or another. The IGN-UK office is firmly on the McAvoy bandwagon; what do you guys think? -=-=-= I think this follows what GdT and Peter said in their online visit with us. No announcements until the end of the year or early next year. *sigh* I'm thinking we're going to be visiting this tease A LOT over the next several months! *twitch*
 
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Sunflower
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Jun 4 2008, 7:30pm
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how everybody is *SO SURE* that Mr. Tumnus is going to be Bilbo.
Get it through your heads, people in the British media: McAvoy has moved way beyond typecasting. He deliberately took something like the Last King of Scotland role after Narnia so as to avoid the fantasy trap, which he sees as limiting. (Ha--tell that to Viggo...)) I can't see how he would want to spoil his upward trajectory as a "serious actor" in order to strap on hairy feet. His Golden Globe nom for Atonement shows us where he likes to see himself heading. He wants us to know that he is *not* Mr. Tumnus.
IMO, he doesn't need the role.
I say give it to someone of great talent but who is still toiling away in obscurity, and would be thankful for the role...like Martin Freeman. 
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Marionette
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Jun 4 2008, 7:55pm
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Why to wait sooo loong just to know that XD 
Really, now I live on an everyday and constant waiting.
I´m always waiting and waiting and waiting... Good that I think I am a patient person... or I was XD
I think there´s something around James McAvoy really, he should be Bilbo already XD
At least I know by experience those rumours always become true, so I believe anything.
What I have seen as a constant rumour, it became true.
But, anywayz who knows.
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Woodyend
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Jun 4 2008, 8:02pm
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that McAvoy is the number one choice of so many here but I just don't see it. He looks nothing like the young Bilbo I see in my minds eye.
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Elven
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Jun 4 2008, 8:08pm
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Im not seeing it either woodyend //
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Were off to Hobbiton finally!
Tolkien was a Capricorn!!
Russell Crowe for Beorn!!
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Woodyend
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Jun 4 2008, 8:16pm
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that could have been a disaster if they had kept him in the role. Not that I have anything against the guy. But having an actor in a pivotal role in the film, that you just can't buy into, could make the difference between a success or failure of a film. That's why they need to get Bilbo right. He is the main actor of the film, and if the audience doesn't buy into whoever they choose to play him, the film will not be a success. Which also could impact F2 as well.
Stuart Townsend left the cast for legitimate reasons after filming had already started. The connection between his leaving the part of Aragorn and GdT naming an actor for Bilbo too early was a tentative one at best. Sorry for any confusion.
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Artanis
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Jun 4 2008, 8:18pm
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a happy Christmas it wil be...........I hope
I cannot make my mind up over McAvoy. There must be some actor out there somwhere who looks like a young Ian Holm...who is an unknowner!
I sense from the quote that they have considered McAvoy or are considering him...just the way he says "not yet. And then adds "not yet" for the others too. I agree with the others though about McAvoy not wanting to go back into this genre and end up being stuck as the man who played Bilbo (but what an honor).
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Jun 4 2008, 8:22pm
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... you're a peach! 
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FarFromHome
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Jun 4 2008, 8:32pm
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Ian Holm either.
McAvoy is the number one choice of so many here but I just don't see it. He looks nothing like the young Bilbo I see in my minds eye.
I like his acting style, and he's not as young as all that - he'll be over 30 by the time filming starts. But you're right, he doesn't really look like Bilbo... In fact, watching him the other night in Starter for Ten, it struck me that he'd have made a good Frodo, if they'd really wanted an Englishman instead of Elijah Wood.
I looked him up on IMDb and one of his quotes caught my eye:
Where it gets difficult is when you get two or three jobs back to back where you're playing leads and doing 13, 14 hours a day, six days a week, and you suddenly think, hang on a minute, how can you have a life like this? Do I work to live or live to work? How can I work properly with no life to inform the work?
Does that sound like a guy who'd be willing to put his life on hold for a year and go to NZ to work those 14 hour days and six-day weeks? Just wondering.
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FarFromHome
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Jun 4 2008, 9:16pm
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in Filth a few days ago, and as I'd seen his name mentioned a few times on TORn, I watched him specifically in terms of Bilbo. I really didn't think it would work. He could probably do the hidebound bourgeois Bilbo of the start (although even there I'm not sure he'd have the required twinkle under the bourgeois mannerisms), but I can't see him doing the naive, brave, honorable Bilbo of the rest of the story. Plus he's 6 feet 2 - I couldn't help noticing what long legs he has. I really don't think he'd do at all.
And I don't think it's just out of perversity that the filmmakers tend to cast hobbits younger than Tolkien says they are - Tolkien has a way of saying one thing and showing another, and all the hobbits become much more childlike once they're out of the Shire. Bilbo may be 50 on paper, but he's much younger at heart - and I think that's what we need to see onscreen.
...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
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fingolfin_nc
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Jun 4 2008, 9:33pm
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Was not aware of his height, or if that is an issue
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All things being equal - Freeman and McAvoy are within the range of all the other actors originally cast as "Main" hobbits
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Eruthurin
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Jun 4 2008, 10:12pm
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I think whoever is to play Bilbos character, at least shuold look very like Ian Holm... in the end it is supposed to be the same bilbo, just younger, right?....
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Jun 4 2008, 10:31pm
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PLEASE READ - GAH! I said that on Tuesday! ah well, at least someone agrees with me...
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If I might make a suggestion that some folks may have already done...
The best thing to do is to look to Ian Holm in his youth. After that, you locate the actor with the most talent that resembles a "Young Ian" the closest.
My reference is Ian's 1962 photo from his portrayal of Puck in "Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream" - Ian is pictured in the lower right-hand corner.
Mr. del Toro did such a perfect job of casting actor Kevin Trainer to represent actor John Hurt in his youth for "Hellboy". I have every confidence that del Toro will accomplish the same measure of perfection here.
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Empedocles
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Jun 4 2008, 11:07pm
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He certainly doesn't ook like James McAvoy. Well, actually McAvoy doesn't look like him. Maybe Martin Freeman a little bit, but no so much.
Please, give us back Glorfindel!!!
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... but I got this summary from 411.mania: 
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