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So apparently the top choices for Bilbo are James McAvoy, Daniel Radcliffe and Jack Black
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May 29 2008, 5:03pm

Post #51 of 238 (3493 views)
Rats! :D ... puts little umbrella and swizle stick back in cabinet ... 24 hours to go ... :D // [In reply to] Can't Post


Were off to Hobbiton finally!

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Russell Crowe for Beorn!!


May 29 2008, 5:42pm

Post #52 of 238 (3692 views)
I won`t belive it...at least not yet. =) [In reply to] Can't Post

Remember when Gandafl says to Bilbo: you haven`t aged a day...
I think that sentence will have an important resonance in the matter of finding the right Bilbo...Its important not only a good actor could fill Holme`s shoes in terms of acting, but also visually, maybe with a little of make-up work or a lot of it, but in the end a very Ian Holme look-alike Bilbo.... "You haven`t aged a day" must be feel genuine.

....and I`m sure PJ and GDT have all this in mind Wink

Eowyn of Penns Woods

May 29 2008, 5:54pm

Post #53 of 238 (3670 views)
That would be required reading [In reply to] Can't Post

and consumption if I thought for even one minute that Jack Black or Wizard Boy were seriously considered for the role.
And I don't imbibe. Never have. =)

The Shire

May 29 2008, 6:00pm

Post #54 of 238 (3869 views)
Good choice but… [In reply to] Can't Post

If this can be verified.. it is by my humble opinion an excellent choice; however he is also rumored to take over Tobey Maguire in the fourth installment of spiderman; his film list is also showing a confirmed role in the in The Last Station, based on the 1990 novel by Jay Parini and filming now.

check this form wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McAvoy

But then again to a stage and movie actor like him, an offer like this...

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May 29 2008, 6:13pm

Post #55 of 238 (3618 views)
True [In reply to] Can't Post

I always said this. Bilbo should be looking a few years younger than in the LOTR, but definitely not as young as for instance Frodo. So all those younger actors, they wouldn't look the part. An actor somewhere in his forties or fifties would fit.
And as I read somewhere else, definitely not some really famous actor, yeeks, (Tom Cruise as Bilbo, I wouldn't even bother going to look any more). That just wouldn't fit. In other movies, a big star could play the lead-role, but I truly believe that an unknown/less known actor would fit much better in this lead role. The famous actors could be behind all the make-up of the dwarves Wink !

Nerwen Altáriel
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May 29 2008, 6:15pm

Post #56 of 238 (3574 views)
that's not true! [In reply to] Can't Post

This must be a joke! Jack Black? no way!! the "harry potter" boy? nonsense!!

James Mcvoy doesn't look like a young Ian Holm haha! maybe with make up ... I don't know ... someone said Hugh Bonneville, well ... he looks like Ian, but .. he´s SO tall that it's difficult to think him as a hobbit Tongue

I would like to see some unknown (but good) actor playing Bilbo. I hope PJ and GdT find him

The Shire

May 29 2008, 6:18pm

Post #57 of 238 (3642 views)
How can anyone take this seriously? Ha [In reply to] Can't Post

There's no way they would even consider Jack Black to play Bilbo, that's just beyond silly.

And I hope it isn't James McAvoy, I just find him very boring and uninteresting for the role.

Tol Eressea

May 29 2008, 6:20pm

Post #58 of 238 (4411 views)
A source? [In reply to] Can't Post

That's not too specific! I wouldn't read too much into Daniel Radcliffe or Jack Black. I do love JB, but he's certainly no Bilbo. And I'm sure GDT and PJ are aware of that! Be prepared for alot of speculation over the coming months- not all of it accurate or well-sourced!

*Jazminatar the Brown*


May 29 2008, 6:26pm

Post #59 of 238 (3866 views)
Oh dear... [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe I shouldn't even bother with this, since it really must be taken with a half-ton of salt. But... woah. Jack Black? I'm not even gonna comment on that... nothing against him really, but he's just NOT in any way, shape, or form anything CLOSE to Bilbo! (ok, I guess I did just comment on that. Laugh) Daniel Radcliffe isn't much better.

I guess I could content myself with James McAvoy. I've seen him in a few things, and I think he's a good, capable actor who could very likely fit into a role of "Hobbitness". BUT, he's not Ian Holm. I don't think anyone can ever match up to Ian Holm, and even if they do get someone who looks like him it's going to feel like a big discrepancy.


May 29 2008, 6:28pm

Post #60 of 238 (3940 views)
Well... but no! [In reply to] Can't Post

I dont like him playing bilbo. I still would like to see mr. Holm. Though he is rather old I believe that he is best bilbo I can imagine.Computer can do some "miracles" you know

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one Ring to find them,
oneRing to bring them all,
and in darkness bind them!
Naur ann adriat ammin!
I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.

Eowyn of Penns Woods

May 29 2008, 6:31pm

Post #61 of 238 (3660 views)
It is much easier [In reply to] Can't Post

for the makeup crew to make a young actor appear older than to make an older actor appear younger.
Making an older actor believably appear much younger would require divine intervention...or a really good plastic surgeon.
Yes, digital retouching is possible sometimes, but too time-consuming and expensive.
Sorry, but that's the facts as I know 'em.


May 29 2008, 6:33pm

Post #62 of 238 (4178 views)
So you don't think forced perspective and fancy camera-work... [In reply to] Can't Post

would do the trick with Hugh Bonneville?

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May 29 2008, 6:35pm

Post #63 of 238 (3987 views)
To add to that... [In reply to] Can't Post

I love how so many people are insistent that Ian Holm plays Bilbo in the Hobbit, yet he was Frodo in the LOTR radio play. And I saw no complaints like "I can't imagine anyone else's voice coming from Frodo!"


May 29 2008, 6:37pm

Post #64 of 238 (4201 views)
In addition to that... [In reply to] Can't Post

Sir Ian may not be up to the riggers of carrying the whole film. Not just his age, but he has been ill in the fairly recent past, I believe.

Yes, too bad. Cause I would have loved to see him back, too. If he narrates beginning and end I guess I could content myself. But not with McAvoy. Let him stand on a box and be Bard!Laugh

Hanging out with the Lonely Isle elves.


May 29 2008, 6:47pm

Post #65 of 238 (3652 views)
Jack Black...?...*gag* [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd be watching this movie through coke bottles if Black is cast as Bilbo...no offense but dear God and baby Jesus, it would ruin a classic for me two-fold: the movie AND the book...I won't be able to scrub the image out of my head when I go back to read it.

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May 29 2008, 6:48pm

Post #66 of 238 (3977 views)
Radcliffe?!?! [In reply to] Can't Post

Dan Radcliffe......... i would die. i hope they never seriously considered him... that would def. be a shame. And i dont really mind if Holm isnt Bilbo because i imagined a younger face. and as for McAvoy, im not sure. he will look cute as a hobbit. but The Hobbit? i dont know...

Eowyn of Penns Woods

May 29 2008, 6:51pm

Post #67 of 238 (3978 views)
*heh* I kept waiting [In reply to] Can't Post

for somebody to say "Can't they just dig up those molds...casts...things they did of the actors before, and put an Ian-Bilbo mask on a stunt double?" =)


May 29 2008, 7:02pm

Post #68 of 238 (4013 views)
Jack Black? XD [In reply to] Can't Post

James Mc Avoy is OK, but he doesn´t look like a young Ian Holm, I think BIlbo should be played by an actor who looks like Ian Holm young.
Even Billy Boyd look better for a young Bilbo.

I don´t find Jack Black suitable as Bilbo, probably a sone of the Dwarves, or one of the Trolls.
What a bout Bilbo´s trolls? they should be in the movie

"Dear friend good bye, no tears in my eyes. So sad it ends, as it began"


May 29 2008, 7:02pm

Post #69 of 238 (3905 views)
please no! [In reply to] Can't Post

no harry potter and no narnia fauns in Middle-earth! please! these actors are too well established as other characters

Theres some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and its worth fighting for.

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May 29 2008, 7:06pm

Post #70 of 238 (3958 views)
Decent, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

McAvoy did an excellent job as Leto II in SciFi Channel's adaptation of Dune, I think he could do well as Bilbo. I would certainly much rather have him over Radcliffe.

That being said, Sir Ian Holm's is the only person I truly want to play Bilbo.

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May 29 2008, 7:11pm

Post #71 of 238 (3698 views)
You are right...IAN HOLM needs to be Bilbo! [In reply to] Can't Post

I’m not one to post on forums such as these but it is a huge disappointment to not see IAN HOLM play Bilbo. Gandalf states in the FOTR that Bilbo "hadn’t aged a day". How is this going to make nay sense in the continuity of things? To have someone else play Bilbo is in my opinion not only foolish but terribly disappointing. It can’t be an age thing because Bilbo is supposed to be 51 at the time of the Hobbit. So what is the problem?. IAN HOLM needs to be Bilbo---plain and simple. I will boycott the film if some one of the likes of Shia LeBeouf does Bilbo. I can still see him swinging through the trees in the latest Indiana Jones film. What a dummy.

Arwen's daughter

May 29 2008, 7:22pm

Post #72 of 238 (4030 views)
It's time for us all to move on from Ian Holm [In reply to] Can't Post

Ian Holm is not going to play Bilbo. We know this. GdT and PJ have said this without any wiggle room. I'm sorry but it's over. I thnk we'd all love it if The Hobbit had been filmed 10 years ago (or even 5) when it might have been possible. But for various reasons he won't be back.

It's time to move out of Denial and Anger and get on with our grieving.

The Seven Stages of Grief (interesting how they seem to apply to The Hobbit casting):
  • Denial (this isn't happening to me!)
  • Anger (why is this happening to me?)
  • Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
  • Depression (I don't care anymore)
  • Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)

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The Shire

May 29 2008, 7:45pm

Post #73 of 238 (4393 views)
Let's move on people:) [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with Arwen...
It's time to move on!!!
I too love Ian Holm, he will always be my favourite Bilbo.
BUT I have to agree with the motion of "no wizards and no Narnia fauns in Middle earth."
There is a huge world of unknown actors out there!
and I know, we know, very few of them ( can that explain why we can't come up with a dozen
names to play Bilbo?)
anyways, the people in charge of casting know them, let's hope do their job well. We have to
rely on dear PJ and now GDT, and Phillipa ect. to deliver the best casting, just as they
did with LotR.
Sir Ian will always be in our memories and hearts:) snif snif
Let's embrace the new Bilbo!!
Let's forget about Radcliffe and fauns (I love McAvoy as an actor, he is really good)
let's forget we even heard about Jack Black (Nacho Libre as Bilbo??? not in my lifetime please!)
Let's hope for the best, and have a second breakfast or luncheon in Sir Holm's honor:)
PLease PJ-GDT: surprise us like you always have!!!!!

Tol Eressea

May 29 2008, 7:45pm

Post #74 of 238 (3677 views)
Exactly - and maybe Sir Ian doesn't even want to do it. [In reply to] Can't Post

Given his poor health and the demands of the role - not to mention him having to travel to NZ, he may not want to reprise his role unless it's as a narrator. Which he could record where ever he lives. GDT did say that they want Sir Ian to be a part of this in some way, and I think that would be a nice touch.

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May 29 2008, 7:48pm

Post #75 of 238 (6465 views)
We're not being coy- [In reply to] Can't Post

Casting is not closed... at all- we will not choose casting until after we finish the scripts. Period.

So, no- No talks are bound to take place with any actor to play Bilbo in the near future. Pages come first.

Some of the stuff reported there is just a tad too insane...



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