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Ataahua
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Apr 15, 2:33am
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Jamie Dornan will be playing Strider in The Hunt for Gollum!
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TORN has a news story on the home page, which also confirms:
* Lee Pace returning as Thranduil.
* Kate Winslet playing Marigol.
But Jamie for Strider? Physically, I can see him looking like a younger but still rugged Ranger of the North, but I haven't seen him in movies (beyond being aware that he's in the Fifty Shades movies). What do people think of this casting?
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 15, 3:29am
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Jamie Dornan seems like a good choice for Strider. He certainly looks the part more than Leo Woodall, who is instead playing Halvard, possibly another Ranger of the North. Kate Winslet's Marigol is presumably the grandmother (not mother) of Sméagol. And of course there will be more casting announcements later.
I have high hopes to see Viggo Mortensen and Liv Tyler make special appearances in The Lord of the Rings: Shadow of the Past (working title), as King Elessar and Queen Arwen at the Brandywine Bridge.
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Noria
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Apr 15, 4:25am
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I agree that Jamie Dornan certainly looks like he could be Strider. I've only seen him in the first couple of seasons of the television series Once Upon a Time more than 10 years ago and only remembered that after looking Dornan up. I have a vague memory of a good looking hero type guy, but that's all. However, I too am hopeful if only because, as I've said before, casting is one of the great strengths of PJ's team. Let’s hope that Dorn is a Viggo Mortensen and not the other fellow.
I loved Lee Pace as Thranduil and would be glad to see him again. He still looks pretty good, so maybe they can get away with it.
Never heard of Leo Woodall, probably because I pay little attention to recent TV and film productions, so I have no opinion.
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Ardamírë
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Apr 15, 12:13pm
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*happy dance*
The characterization of the Elvenking was off for a lot of the hobbit movies, but Lee Pace was awesome and certainly looked the part. I’ve been hoping he’d be back, so this being announced before filming even starts is awesome!
I’m also surprisingly fine with this Strider recasting. When I first heard the rumors, I was disappointed, especially with Ian and Elijah both rumored to return. I knew it wasn’t feasible for Viggo to return without serious AI, but it still didn’t feel right. Jamie Dornan actually sits fine with me though. I’m really excited for this now!
I wonder if we’ll get any other returning characters/actors in smaller roles? This seems to be announcing just the main players.
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OldestDaughter
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Apr 15, 4:12pm
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Actually really happy with this cast announcement
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I think Jamie works for playing a younger Strider that doesn't take away from Viggo but compliments Viggo (I'm thinking of how it was done with both Martin and Ian as Bilbo and how perfect that was.
Honestly glad that no one else seems to be recast, but honestly, as happy as I am about seeing old faces with Gandalf and Frodo, the deal breaker for me was Lee coming back as Thranduil. Thranduil is one of my favorite Middle-earth characters and Lee was so perfect as him in the Hobbit, I'm looking forward to seeing him return to Middle-earth and with a smaller scale story and cast.
My worries for the film have been replaced with hope now.
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OldestDaughter
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Apr 15, 4:20pm
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I do hope as well to see Viggo and Liv possibly in Shadow of the Past
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Viggo has even said in order for him to come back, it would need to make sense with the story and his current age.
That can easily be done if they decide to have Elessar and Arwen appear at the Brandywine Bridge. They did something similar in the Aragorn's Quest video game, so I think it could work.
But honestly, much happier than I thought I would be with the new Strider announcement. I've seen Jamie play the role of the huntsman in Once Upon a Time years ago (I have never watch the 50 shades films but know he was the main male lead in it) but I feel much better about him playing Strider than Leo. Jamie has some of the ruggedness that I think would work hand n hand with playing a younger version of Viggo's role.
Now we will see if this film will be years after Bilbo's party like in the books (which wasn't explored in the films) or if it will see like a short time like in the film. But I can see Andy and team turning it to be a longer time period after Bilbo's party, but I guess we will see!
But very happy with the cast announcement overall!
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Apr 15, 5:10pm
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Now we will see if this film will be years after Bilbo's party like in the books (which wasn't explored in the films) or if it will see like a short time like in the film. But I can see Andy and team turning it to be a longer time period after Bilbo's party, but I guess we will see! Well, hypothetically, Frodo's departure in the films follows about one year after BIibo's birthday party. It can't realistically be less than that; and I don't think it could be stretched to more than another couple of years since none of the hobbits age noticeably in the intervening time as they would have during the 17 years in the novel. I don't see Andy Serkis making that large a retcon to the film continuity.
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OldestDaughter
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Apr 15, 7:58pm
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Now the question is, do we think they will announce anyone else, like major characters returning?
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Like Legolas or Arwen, or do we think that this is the main cast, and that anyone else cast would be more minor characters?
Some people on the Fellowship of the Fans will see Arwen return in this film (most are saying a recast instead of Liv) but I feel like if Arwen was going to be in this movie, she has a big enough name to be listed in the cast, even if it is someone new playing her.
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CuriousG
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Apr 15, 9:37pm
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Viggo sure brought a lot of gravitas and subtlety to the role, and I'll give Dornan the benefit of the doubt that he can too. I first saw him in "The Tourist" (started well, then got kinda meh), and he had the kind of screen presence that made me think he was destined to be an action hero of some kind in movies, so fingers crossed.
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Chen G.
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May 5, 6:48am
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Actors had been talked off of taller trees
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Viggo has even said in order for him to come back, it would need to make sense with the story and his current age.
He said that at some point yes, but he hadn't harped on it very consistently in interviews: I think he might have been talked off of the "if it makes sense for the age I am now" tree: actors have been talked off of taller trees before. If the report I read is true then he was game, but the prospect of deaging Aragorn throughout a movie in which he will feature alongside other deaged characters and a motion-capture lead was simply too costly. The studio, it will be recalled, is turning a corner but is still in a tricky spot and we can compare this to the arguments they had on the budgeting of Heat 2 recently. (I don't want to turn this into some tabloid scandal between filmmakers and studio: it's just the case of reality hitting home, and I think all parties came to realize it just wasn't feasible).
Personally, I really don't need a framing device from OUTSIDE the flow of the storytelling. People talk about Old Bilbo in The Hobbit, but that's totally different from an elderly Elessar: the Older Bilbo was one we see on the eve of the Farewell Party, whereas an old Elessar would be somebody we see after the ENTIRE storyline had concluded: it's a "spoiler", as it were.
Jaime is just our Aragorn for this movie. He's almost exactly the age Viggo was so in spite of any protestations from Andy (via his otherwise delightful interview with Mashable) that he's "in a different stage in his life" it really isn't the case that this is a "younger Aragorn": He'll just be wearing a different face. A big blow for me, personally, but I refuse to let it condemn the movie.
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Otaku-sempai
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May 5, 1:15pm
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Viggo has even said in order for him to come back, it would need to make sense with the story and his current age. He said that at some point yes, but he hadn't harped on it very consistently in interviews: I think he might have been talked off of the "if it makes sense for the age I am now" tree: actors have been talked off of taller trees before. If the report I read is true then he was game, but the prospect of deaging Aragorn throughout a movie in which he will feature alongside other deaged characters and a motion-capture lead was simply too costly. The studio, it will be recalled, is turning a corner but is still in a tricky spot and we can compare this to the arguments they had on the budgeting of Heat 2 recently. (I don't want to turn this into some tabloid scandal between filmmakers and studio: it's just the case of reality hitting home, and I think all parties came to realize it just wasn't feasible). Personally, I really don't need a framing device from OUTSIDE the flow of the storytelling. People talk about Old Bilbo in The Hobbit, but that's totally different from an elderly Elessar: the Older Bilbo was one we see on the eve of the Farewell Party, whereas an old Elessar would be somebody we see after the ENTIRE storyline had concluded: it's a "spoiler", as it were. Jaime is just our Aragorn for this movie. He's almost exactly the age Viggo was so in spite of any protestations from Andy (via his otherwise delightful interview with Mashable) that he's "in a different stage in his life" it really isn't the case that this is a "younger Aragorn": He'll just be wearing a different face. A big blow for me, personally, but I refuse to let it condemn the movie.
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Chen G.
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May 5, 8:34pm
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There was an interview where Viggo says he'd be game to be in a film AFTER The Hunt for Gollum, as well.
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