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drogo
Lorien


Feb 18 2007, 4:23pm

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Here's a few more late Hildebrandt illustrations I thought I would post. Okay, I am practicing thumbnails on this new board, but we don't have to worry about board space so much over here.

Click on the images and enjoy!!

"The Mines of Moria"


"Journey to the Dark Tower"


"The One Ring"


"Bilbo and Gollum"



(Formerly drogo of the two names!)


JPB
The Shire


Feb 18 2007, 4:40pm

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You know... I have always wondered about that painting. Here it is, well into the discussion between Gandalf and Frodo - and Frodo has no chair.

What is this? The heir of the hobbit who had his share of Smaug's gold -- doesn't own more than one chair? He has to stand the whole time? Shocked


Beren IV
Gondor


Feb 18 2007, 7:22pm

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Gah, talk about not being consistent with the books!Unsure


diedye
Grey Havens


Feb 18 2007, 8:28pm

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... it's probably because he doesn't trust Gandalf after what happened at the last Birthday party. Now he's gotta be ready to bolt if he sees any sign that Gandalf's "fireworks" get out of hand.



Penthe
Gondor


Feb 18 2007, 10:53pm

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Hildebrandt's only draw people sitting down behind tables or wearing a skirt. I mean robes.

Frodo could've joined the priesthood, or invested in some more occasional furniture. Otherwise, he has to stand all the time. It's just one of the many ways in which the Hildebrandt's prove their evil natures.


Sandicomm
Bree


Feb 19 2007, 12:47am

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I like these black and white pictures best--they look like they were illustrations from an old Dickens book. The viewer isn't distracted by the colors (not that I mind color pictures, but I think the Hildebrants rely on it too much) and really see the form of the pictures and the characters.


Morwen
Rohan


Feb 19 2007, 2:00am

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Apparently Frodo doesn't own any tables either, as Gandalf's plate, knife and beer are just sitting on the floor. Gives the place a kind of just moved in look, which obviously doesn't fit with the book.


JPB
The Shire


Feb 19 2007, 2:05am

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Gives the place a kind of just moved in look, which obviously doesn't fit with the book.

You mean like the candles attached to the fireplace, near the ceiling, with no soot stains on the ceiling? Angelic

Edit: Or the lack of soot stains in the rear of the fireplace. Angelic

Edit again: Of course, I won't mention the bright light source that seems to come from the far end of the cave that contains Gollum and Bilbo... I guess the shadows Gollum lurks in are more like the shadows found under a coffee table. Angelic

The thing is, I really like some of the Hildebrandt paintings... I just go kinda crazy on some details.


(This post was edited by JPB on Feb 19 2007, 2:10am)


Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea


Feb 19 2007, 3:11am

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"Mines of Moria" -- Gandalf looks pretty good, but the Balrog looks furry rather than fiery.

"Journey to the Dark Tower" -- What? Gandalf, Frodo, Gimli and Legolas striding along past a big tree within viewing distance of Barad-dur? When does that happen?

"The One Ring" -- I thought it was acceptable, but loved everyone's comments about the furniture (or lack thereof).

"Bilbo and Gollum" -- I cannot take that Gollum seriously.

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linkin-artelf
Lorien


Feb 19 2007, 3:27am

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The Mines of Moria: who is Gandalf turned towards and how on Middle Earth can that Balrog sword be so big?

Journey to the Dark Tower: I like the homage to Tolkien's art with Gandalf's extended hand and finger. Very well done overall.

The One Ring: Forget the lack of furniture and smoke stains, why is Gandalf asking for the Ring? I mean, sure he wants to throw it in the fire, but why choose to illustrate the moment when he asks for the Ring?

Bilbo and Gollum: Gollum has his pants here, that counts for something. The influence of this cave image in the movie is clear.

Thank you drogo, for an illuminating week.Smile

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Aerlinn
Lorien


Feb 19 2007, 4:01am

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If anyone's interested after all this [In reply to] Can't Post

I found several copies of the <a href=http://www.amazon.com/Tolkien-Brothers-Hildebrandt-2006-Calendar/dp/1416210717>2006 Hildebrandt Bros. calendar</a> for $1 each; if anyone would like one let me know. (talavera1809 @ hotmail .com). I know the Aragorn - Arwen picture is in it, and Frodo-stands-and-waves-his-arms-while-Gandalf-tells-him-the-tale, and ...er, 10 others. Which I will go get the calendar and identify if anyone's that interested.


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N.E. Brigand
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Feb 19 2007, 4:03am

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Thanks, Aerlinn! [In reply to] Can't Post

Not interested myself, but what a timely gesture!

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Feb 19 2007, 4:06am

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Aerlinn
Lorien


Feb 19 2007, 4:10am

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*&% [In reply to] Can't Post

Back to the FAQ. Thanks...


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Reera the Red
Rivendell

Feb 19 2007, 4:16am

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It's also possible... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that she didn't have one of the HTML modes selected in the editor. To use HTML in your post, you need to be in the Basic Editor and under "Post Style" at the top you need to select either HTML or Markup and HTML. Otherwise, the board software will nuke your HTML when it's posted and you'll just see the raw code.


Aerlinn
Lorien


Feb 19 2007, 4:17am

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It's official [In reply to] Can't Post

I prefer the old boards.


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FantasyFan
Rohan


Feb 19 2007, 10:48am

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it needs [ ] [In reply to] Can't Post

HTML here uses [ square brackets ] instead of <pointy brackets>. I remember that from the FAQ. But I don't know all the other subtleties.


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Reera the Red
Rivendell

Feb 19 2007, 10:52am

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You can use either "Markup" (which is what this board calls BBcode, often used on message boards) or HTML in messages. Markup uses the square brackets; HTML uses the angle ones. Either will work, but you have to let the editor know which one(s) you're using.


a.s.
Valinor


Feb 19 2007, 12:19pm

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In Reply To
You can use either "Markup" (which is what this board calls BBcode, often used on message boards) or HTML in messages. Markup uses the square brackets; HTML uses the angle ones. Either will work, but you have to let the editor know which one(s) you're using.



I know this has been gone over in faqs and on the other boards, but I can't seem to hold it in my brain:

If I want to be able to use html in my posts, what do I have to set my profile settings too? Right now I have "markup and html" chosen, but I also have "advanced editor" chosen.

Thanks in advance.

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Reera the Red
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Feb 19 2007, 12:30pm

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...if you want to use HTML instead of Markup. The Advanced Editor is Markup only and won't handle your HTML correctly. The Basic Editor allows both (if you have Markup and HTML selected for Post Style.)


Alraune
The Shire

Feb 19 2007, 7:30pm

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Thanks, drogo, that was fun. [In reply to] Can't Post

I also had several of the calendars on my wall long ago, and seeing them again brought back little wisps of that first time reader feeling. Enjoyed it very much.


Morwen
Rohan


Feb 19 2007, 7:46pm

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Yes, thanks Drogo [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually, I learned that I like the Hildebrandts work better than I thought I did.


Darkstone
Immortal


Feb 19 2007, 9:12pm

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Mines of Moria

The Balrog looks like a Jack Kirby villain, like "Balroar, Herald of Sauron" or something.


Journey to the Dark Tower

An R. Crumb poster for Middle-earth: "Keep on Truckin'!"


the One Ring

They're awfully close to that fire. I'm smelling a combination of burnt hobbit hair and wizard robe.


Bilbo and Gollum

OMG! What's with the sideburns and pompadour??

So that's what they meant by "Elvis Medicine"!!!

"Nice ring. Thank ya', thank ya' vera much!!"

"Attention goblins: Bilbo has left the cavern!!"

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Sometime hours and hours hence:
In The Green Dragon two ales could buy
And drank the one less filling I
And that has made all the difference.

- The Ale Less Filling by Robert Frostymug


dernwyn
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Feb 20 2007, 11:02pm

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Thank you, drogo! [In reply to] Can't Post

Now I know why, even though I was one who "grew up" on the Hildebrandts, their artwork has generally been somewhat disturbing. I appreciate all that goes into each painting; but I fear that they have done what Tolkien despised, and that is, "Disney-fying" his work.

No comments on these, except for one: yes, at least Gollum's wearing pants!


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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens


Feb 21 2007, 8:22am

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for a very stimulating week. i am sorry I didn't get over here sooner, I have been busy with certain technical issues.

I like the 'Mines of Moria' image in general, The composition is made more elegant than most of their images by the use of curved shapes: teh whip, the bridge, the wing edge. Gandalf's posture...etc. I like how Gandalf's wand is lighted. It has good contrast adn visal interst.

I do NOT like their interpretation of the Balrog with the rippling muscles. Somehow I want the bridge to be more archaic and crumbling, not so neat. It shoule looks thousands of years old, I think.

you did an excellant job of organinzing the images. I only hope I can do so well. Thank-you.

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