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Rings of Power was Written by Aliens Posted on 9 September 2024 by Sørina Higgins
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Silvered-glass
Menegroth

Dec 7 2024, 10:01am

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Well, thanks for the input. And if you ever discover the identity of the AI that wrote this script in 2018, please let me know-- I could use it in my own work.


The research for LLMs is openly available. Amazon has the resources to program and train their own proprietary implementation, and I think that is the most likely option for what happened and the expense that made RoP cost so much money.

And important note for your career: If you, say, work in the law, AIs put into writing legal documents have been known to make up laws and hallucinate precedents. This is an inherent issue with how LLMs function and cannot be fixed without a technological breakthrough.

Meta had a LLM that wrote scientific articles, but that one had to be shut down quickly after having been opened to the public when people realized that the AI wrote nonsense formatted like scientific articles and made up references that didn't exist. (I've seen some of the articles Meta's AI produced in the brief period it was live. They could have made Meta owe a lot of money in court if someone foolishly took health advice from the AI.)


DGHCaretaker
Nargothrond

Dec 7 2024, 4:52pm

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Just to get a perspective on the viability of these claims. what is the shape of our Earth, and did we land on the moon in 1969?


Silvered-glass
Menegroth

Dec 11 2024, 11:33pm

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This is a late reply, but anyway.

Computers aren't magic. Computers don't really think. This shouldn't be a controversial opinion, materialistic daydreams about a technological singularity notwithstanding.

I installed Stable Diffusion on my computer to try out AI image generation and saw first-hand the limits of the technology and how the AI truly doesn't have consciousness or a soul. The AI doesn't even know how many legs a human should have, usually producing 2, but occasionally going for 1 or 3. And the issue of bad hands is extremely common, being inclusive of but not limited to too many fingers. And so on.


skyofcoffeebeans
Nargothrond

Dec 13 2024, 3:04pm

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is Gandalf the White actually Saruman?


Silvered-glass
Menegroth

Mar 12, 1:31pm

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A very late reply, but...

At the time of posting this we have the current top LLM Claude set to play Pokemon Red over a stream (Claude Plays Pokemon). Claude is doing so very badly and spending hours upon hours in loops making the same mistakes over and over etc. People who think that AIs are going to do all our jobs soon will have a hard time believing the types of thinking errors Claude demonstrates. AGI very much isn't here and the technological singularity isn't about to arrive, as if it ever could.

It is telling that Claude is especially bad at spatial navigation. Some of the biggest problems with RoP were related to issues with time and space too.

(Gandalf the White being Saruman should be discussed in the Reading Room forum, but yes he is. I wrote a very long post about it with textual analysis.)


Eruonen
Gondolin


Mar 14, 9:08pm

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ROP writers if not AI....."spending hours upon hours in loops making the same mistakes over and over etc."


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Mar 14, 9:09pm)


DGHCaretaker
Nargothrond

Mar 14, 9:41pm

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They've swapped out some writer modules but the runner engine is the same.

Going in circles fits the ring motif.

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