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Hamfast Gamgee
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Dec 23 2024, 8:42am
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Frodo voluntering for his task
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Frodo does seem to volunteer very quickly for an almost suicidal journey. Would he have been so eager had he known everything that was going to happen to him? He gets stabbed, skewered, bitten, stung loses his finger, the latter been the least of his troubles, sand is emotionally shot. He also does have rather a sharp learning curve. One moment he is living comfortably as a gentlehobbit in the quiet Shire then he siddden;y learns that this vague Mordpr place is actually an unstoppable military power and would upu believe that ring of his is the key to everything. He's remarkably cheerful over all of this.
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elentari3018
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Dec 25 2024, 4:26am
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He is not necessarily "cheerful" but he was inclined to do something
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for the hobbits of teh SHire even though he thought them [the inhabitants" "too stupid and dull for words.
As Tolkien covers Frodo through Book 4 we see Frodo less in main person "speaking" and more in the point of view of Sam. I think that indicates that the Ring is definitely taking its toll on him.
Another non cheery thought that Frodo had was that written during the Black Gate when the hobbits see that the Gate has been closed.
"And here he was a little halfing form the SHire, a simple hobbit of hte quiet countryside, expected to find a way where the great ones could not go, or dared not go. It was an evil fate. But he had taken it on himself in his own sitting-room in the far-off spring of another year, so remote now that it was like a chapter in a story of the world's youth, when the Trees of Silver and Gold were still in bloom. This was an evil choice. Which way should he choose? And if both led to terror and death, what good lay in choice?" (one of my fave quotes!)
I think he is more introspective of all the hobbits. Cheery would describe Pippin but we saw his growth throughout the Quest.
For Frodo, his motivation as mentioned above was to attempt at helping and it was not an easy choice by him. He had to wait about half a year before he set out.
During the Council, he volunteered but he did so quite reluctantly. "I will take the Ring, thought I do not know the way."
"A great dread fell on him, as if he was awatiign the pronouncement of some doom that he had long foreseen and vainly hoped might after all never be spoken. An overwhelming longing to rest and remain at peace by Bilbo's side in Rivendell filled all. his heart."
I do not think he wanted to go if given the choice. Many moments in Mordor he felt utter despair and he certainly had given up . He was Endurance beyond hope (Brownwe athan Harthad) and he went on only because of Sam's utter detrmination.
"By Elbereth and Luthien the fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" ~Frodo
"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series
"He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings."- Siege of Gondor, RotK
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sevilodorf
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Jan 3 2025, 6:41pm
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He's been working towards this ever since Bilbo left the Shire. Each "goodbye" to favorite places.... selling Bag End .... each step was one more on the road and he KNEW just didn't want to admit it.
Reluctantly but inevitably he knows it's his task. And everyone knew it....
Elrond raised his eyes and looked at him, and Frodo felt his heart pierced by the sudden keenness of the glance. 'If I understand aright all that I have heard,' he said, 'I think that this task is appointed for you, Frodo, and that if you do not find a way, no one will. This is the hour of the Shire-folk when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great. Who of all the Wise could have foreseen it? Or, if they are wise, why should they expect to know it, until the hour has struck?
'But it is a heavy burden. So heavy that none could lay it on another. I do not lay it on you. But if you take it freely, I will say that your choice is right; and though all the mighty elf-friends of old, Hador, and Hurin and Túrin, and Beren himself were assembled together, your seat should be among them.'
What bewilders me (other that the knowledge that Tolkien wanted them to depart on a particular day) is WHY take so long leaving? ... pack up and move before the enemy has time to recover from the Nazgul being unhorsed in the flood.... They do tend to dilly-dally about at times and then they move at amazing speeds. Compare the distances covered by the Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn chasing the Uruk-hai -- and then when they get horses they really move.
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 3 2025, 7:41pm
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What bewilders me (other that the knowledge that Tolkien wanted them to depart on a particular day) is WHY take so long leaving? ... pack up and move before the enemy has time to recover from the Nazgul being unhorsed in the flood.... They do tend to dilly-dally about at times and then they move at amazing speeds. Compare the distances covered by the Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn chasing the Uruk-hai -- and then when they get horses they really move.
Thee were many preparations that needed to be made before the Fellowship set out. Firstly, scouts were sent out: Elves from Rivndell; Rangers of the North; perhaps even Wood-elves from the Woodland Realm. As Gandalf explained: "We shall have to scour the lands all round for many long leagues before any move is made. So cheer up. Frodo! You will probably make quite a long stay here."
It took nearly two months just for the scouts to begin to return and report their findings, which accounted for eight of the Black Riders as well as the disappearance of Radagast the Brown. The number of the company still needed to be finalized, potential routes studied and discussed, and Narsil, the Sword of Elendil had to be reforged. It's not as though they were just sitting around, twiddling their thumbs.
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Feb 12 2025, 11:18am
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Which I can find in the whole tales which I think is a bit of a stretch is that part where Frodo sets of from Bag End just in time without warning when the Black Riders are just on his tail.A little later on and he would have failed, or a little earlier and it would not have been such an interesting tale. Possibly.
Or maybe it was that provedence thing again, one of the gods or maia prodded him in a dream which he forgot. Or maybe he didn't and however wrote the Red Book decided to write it like that to make the story more entertaining!
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