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Adam Weishaupt
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Nov 3, 10:52am
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It's been over 25 years since I have used a forum to discuss any topic, be it Tolkien related or not. Ran into this place because somebody on a gopher:// protocol text board mentioned it. Don't ask which text board it was because I cannot remember it. I do know that I started out on the search engine: gopher://floodgap.com/7/v2/vs/
Anyways, I mostly lurk.
I DO have one subject that I would like to discuss though, and I will be putting together a post about it in the next few days. It concerns youtube content creators and the use of A.I. on that platform. Perhaps one, or some of you, are finding things odd?
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dernwyn
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Nov 3, 1:32pm
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And nice to "see" you here!
I don't watch "content creators" but many others do. That sounds like a good post for the Off-Topic board. Let us Admins know if you have any problems posting it. 
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
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CuriousG
Gondolin
Nov 9, 8:29pm
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We'll look forward to your post.
I follow the news about AI, and there are many odd things it does quite routinely. Re: Tolkien's work, AI apparently reads fanfic, so if you ask it if Frodo is the love-child of Galadriel and Gandalf, you might get a "yes." And it might even give you a source. So, I just expect "odd" from AI and don't trust it.
I still use it with skepticism, I just have to fact-check it. I was watching a forgettable, minor move recently and asking AI (Copilot) to remind me of character backstories that I'd lost track of. Then it started to flat out invent characters, and again, minor movie not from a book and presumably without a large fanfic base, and it flat out invented characters. But, it was helpful when it stuck to facts, so it's a mixed bag on Tolkien, the weather, and whether the Earth is flat, round, or an alien hiccup.
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NottaSackville
Doriath
Nov 10, 3:29pm
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Happiness: money matters, but less than we think and not in the way that we think. Family is important and so are friends, while envy is toxic -- and so is excessive thinking. Beaches are optional. Trust is not. Neither is gratitude. - The Geography of Bliss by Eric Weiner as summarized by Lily Fairbairn. And a bit of the Hobbit reading thrown in never hurts. - NottaSackville
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Annael
Elvenhome
Nov 10, 6:45pm
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I don't know about youtube, but I just attended an online conference on AI and came away with these points:
AI is currently just a glorified search engine.
It does not discern truth from fiction.
It makes stuff up - for example, a lawyer looking for case law was given two cases that turned out not to be real, because the algorithm thought they were "probable." (He lost his case as a result.)
It cannot create anything new.
I'll be interested to read your post.
I am a dreamer of words, of written words.
-- Gaston Bachelard
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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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CuriousG
Gondolin
Nov 13, 4:01am
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it can *seem* to create something new. I was trying out ChatGPT over a year ago, asking it to write 2 page fiction stories where I'd supply the plot. While not innovative literature, it was passable and as "new" as the results from telling a high school student to write a story about a boy taming a dragon, or modern day rescuing hostages from a burning building, etc. I can easily see a student turning in AI writing in a Creative Writing class and getting a B or so. And the language models get a little bit better every year.
Technically they're not writing anything new when you give them a plot to follow, and they're recombining prose from a million books or so, but still, it can read as new. I say this not to argue with you, but more of "beware."
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Nov 13, 2:31pm
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I'm so glad you found your way here! I started out as a lurker, too... and the only other forum I visited was the official LotR site when the films started to be released!
We have some very knowledgeable people around here, so I'm sure you'll find some interesting input. In the meantime, you'll have to stop by here again on Friday (all of them) when we have Fiesta Friday and basically share what's going on in our worlds along with general conversation.
Take care!
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