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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 104072 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by AltairaGuest)

  Collapse Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 91147 1 Jun 20 2007, 5:15am Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 96884 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Collapse ****Character of Saruman (1): Treachery in Isengard noWizardme 149 5 Mon, 9:49am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)
       Collapse Phisher King! Ethel Duath 118 4 Mon, 10:00pm
           Collapse The None-too-bright Council noWizardme 101 3 Tue, 9:01am
               Wise fools noWizardme 97 0 Tue, 9:24am
               Collapse "thinking the unthinkable": Yeah, I was going to add that in, Ethel Duath 74 1 Tue, 10:55pm
                   Voicing doubts and opinions noWizardme 53 0 Wed, 9:20am

  Collapse Ideas for Treebeard, a hasty visit oliphaunt 193 5 May 25, 12:06am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)
       Looks good to me! // Ethel Duath 173 0 May 25, 12:50am
       Collapse Is there anything about Treebeard in his Letters ? elentari3018 171 3 May 25, 2:25am
           Collapse Adding on oliphaunt 156 2 May 25, 11:02am
               i'm not sure about leading but it could be a third discussion perhaps? elentari3018 136 0 May 26, 12:06am
               Someone who likes working from HoME... noWizardme 79 0 Sun, 4:05pm

  Collapse I propose a Saruman character study noWizardme 713 37 May 18, 6:03pm Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)
       Collapse Saruman as inferred from The Hobbit? Otaku-sempai 645 8 May 18, 7:44pm
           Collapse Well, I don't see why it wouldn't be relevant Ethel Duath 637 7 May 18, 10:31pm
               yes noWizardme 587 0 May 19, 4:03pm
               Collapse Good wizards Voronwë_the_Faithful 177 5 May 26, 9:14pm
                   Collapse White wizards, good magic squire 176 3 May 26, 10:02pm
                       Collapse History of the Hobbit Voronwë_the_Faithful 175 1 May 26, 10:14pm
                           Ah, thanks, I misunderstood squire 172 0 May 27, 12:28am
                       Many Wizards Otaku-sempai 164 0 May 27, 1:18am
                   That would have been very, very interesting, Ethel Duath 174 0 May 26, 11:23pm
       Collapse I'd be glad to serve as a inexpert for a June 6 (or 13) oliphaunt 630 3 May 18, 11:30pm
           Another Treebeard fan! Ethel Duath 628 0 May 18, 11:55pm
           Collapse 6th or 13th? noWizardme 580 1 May 19, 4:19pm
               6th it is oliphaunt 575 0 May 19, 4:54pm
       Collapse Not sure I can do any this time around, with 2 weddings: Ethel Duath 628 12 May 19, 12:02am
           Collapse It's good if organisers can take a rest from time to time noWizardme 582 1 May 19, 4:10pm
               It's not the organizing, it's the creating a good post Ethel Duath 578 0 May 19, 4:25pm
           Collapse wow congrats to your kids! elentari3018 563 7 May 20, 12:29am
               Collapse Thank You! :D Ethel Duath 554 6 May 20, 1:47am
                   Collapse wow that is most coincidental! elentari3018 515 5 May 20, 11:12am
                       Collapse Yeah, it's been very interesting Ethel Duath 501 4 May 20, 2:59pm
                           Collapse I had "no admittance except on party business" sign, ME table land signs, elentari3018 490 3 May 20, 6:57pm
                               Collapse Fabulous! Proves Gandalf is still interested Ethel Duath 484 2 May 20, 8:39pm
                                   Collapse That sounds good! elentari3018 457 1 May 21, 3:00am
                                       I'll have the eagles Ethel Duath 414 0 May 21, 4:28pm
           Collapse 2 weddings in a month sounds both exciting and daunting. Congrats! // CuriousG 264 1 May 25, 1:47am
               Ha, yes! And thank you! :D // Ethel Duath 260 0 May 25, 2:08am
       Collapse On the Pollantir, we actually have Faramir Ethel Duath 628 1 May 19, 12:07am
           yes, i look forward to Faramir and maybe i'll lead a discussion elentari3018 563 0 May 20, 12:29am
       Collapse NoValiantVolunteerMe : 6 June, Valiant Volunteer #1 CuriousG 266 5 May 25, 1:49am
           Collapse Erm, June 6th oliphaunt 253 4 May 25, 1:16pm
               Collapse Oops. Of course you have June 6. I'll do the 13th. CuriousG 225 3 May 25, 10:17pm
                   Collapse oliphaunts can move rather fast oliphaunt 219 1 May 25, 10:40pm
                       Now that's quite a terrifying mental image: Ethel Duath 210 0 May 26, 2:16am
                   Thank you, Valiant Volunteer #2! // noWizardme 106 0 Sun, 3:46pm
       Collapse been eyeing this a bit-- elentari3018 128 1 Sun, 2:50am
           Thank you Valiant Volunteer #3! noWizardme 108 0 Sun, 3:47pm
     Just "27 June, Valiant Volunteer #4" to fill now... // noWizardme 104 0 Sun, 4:41pm

  Collapse Denethor's Lingering Influence and Denethor in the Appendices Ethel Duath 963 52 May 9, 8:20pm Jump to last post in thread (by elentari3018)
       Collapse Denethor's lingering influence Silvered-glass 822 2 May 10, 6:13pm
           Collapse Maybe Denethor had political reasons to burn his son alive so he would prevent more supporters of the King that is returning? elentari3018 800 1 May 11, 2:12am
               I really don't think so. He didn't think Ethel Duath 722 0 May 12, 10:27pm
       Faramir Silvered-glass 820 0 May 10, 7:09pm
       Pippin Silvered-glass 818 0 May 10, 8:57pm
       Collapse some scattered thoughts Felagund 813 10 May 10, 11:43pm
           Collapse Thank you! That clarifies things quite a bit. Ethel Duath 784 9 May 11, 4:34pm
               Collapse Denethor the Resilient Felagund 773 8 May 11, 11:14pm
                   Collapse Apropos of Denethor "losing it," Ethel Duath 780 7 May 12, 12:43am
                       I like this comparison a lot :) // Felagund 754 0 May 12, 1:38am
                       Collapse Regarding Denethor and the Palentir SirDennisC 662 1 May 15, 4:35am
                           “demonic pressure” Ethel Duath 621 0 May 15, 4:40pm
                       Collapse By the way, sorry about the spacing. It's a Firefox thing. Ethel Duath 620 3 May 15, 4:37pm
                           Collapse Spacing and Firefox Silvered-glass 620 2 May 15, 5:12pm
                               Ah! Thank You! I do use that sometmes, but didn't know Ethel Duath 614 0 May 15, 5:23pm
                               Going to try your advice on Basic Editor and spacing CuriousG 506 0 May 16, 10:44pm
       Great post and thanks for the past week's replies and insight! elentari3018 807 0 May 11, 2:08am
       Reading the appendix... elentari3018 796 0 May 11, 3:09am
       Collapse Denethor in the Appendices Silvered-glass 776 20 May 11, 9:23pm
           Collapse Thorongil and 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen' Felagund 773 19 May 12, 1:26am
               Collapse Thorongil Silvered-glass 724 18 May 12, 10:05pm
                   Collapse The Great Journeys of Aragorn Otaku-sempai 716 2 May 13, 1:23am
                       "Only extraordinary circumstances would allow Aragorn to ovecome that obstacle" Ethel Duath 705 0 May 13, 2:31am
                       Aragorn's Moment of Opportunity Silvered-glass 689 0 May 13, 9:53am
                   Collapse some further thoughts: hagiography 2.0, Thorongil & mercenaries Felagund 668 14 May 14, 10:33pm
                       Collapse good points all round uncle Iorlas 631 13 May 15, 4:04pm
                           Cheers, Iorlas. This: Lissuin 624 0 May 15, 4:26pm
                           Nutshelled (your next-to-last-paragraph). :) // Ethel Duath 617 0 May 15, 4:35pm
                           thanks! Felagund 529 0 May 16, 7:45pm
                           Collapse The Demographics of Gondor Silvered-glass 444 9 May 17, 7:41pm
                               Collapse demographics etc uncle Iorlas 431 8 May 18, 4:44am
                                   Collapse The Mercenary Controversy Silvered-glass 401 4 May 18, 7:46am
                                       Collapse not at all uncle Iorlas 358 2 May 18, 8:13pm
                                           Collapse $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ oliphaunt 350 1 May 19, 12:27am
                                               Silver pennies. Kimi 179 0 May 25, 5:54am
                                       Thorongil and a fistful of dollars! Felagund 356 0 May 18, 8:40pm
                                   Victor! Ethel Duath 380 0 May 18, 4:13pm
                                   Collapse V. Borge--and very very off-topic, but Ethel Duath 350 1 May 18, 10:47pm
                                       What? dernwyn 229 0 May 23, 11:15pm
       Collapse Beregond beyond the walls oliphaunt 623 1 May 14, 2:50pm
           This is really good. Ethel Duath 612 0 May 14, 4:08pm
       Collapse Son of Denethor oliphaunt 618 1 May 14, 2:58pm
           Ha! Yeah, he did (leave his chair . . .). Ethel Duath 611 0 May 14, 4:12pm
       Pip Pip Hooray oliphaunt 613 0 May 14, 6:20pm
       Collapse More on Denethor oliphaunt 597 3 May 14, 9:23pm
           Collapse Projection Silvered-glass 640 2 May 15, 8:59am
               Collapse the White Council Felagund 608 1 May 15, 7:59pm
                   White Council Members Silvered-glass 546 0 May 16, 12:58pm
       being Thorongil Felagund 610 0 May 15, 9:04pm
       Collapse Interesting bit from the Letters in Tolkien's words about Denethor elentari3018 130 2 Sun, 2:25am
           Collapse Here Tolkien sets out his distinction between fantasy and the real world. squire 121 1 Sun, 12:57pm
               Yes that's true! elentari3018 93 0 Mon, 2:06am

  Collapse Where did Aragorn stash that Palantir before he got to Minas Tirith? Aunt Dora Baggins 595 9 May 7, 7:39pm Jump to last post in thread (by Aunt Dora Baggins)
       Well, I never thought of that! Ethel Duath 575 0 May 7, 8:32pm
       Collapse Big as a bowling ball, but heavier I should think, or lighter, depending... oliphaunt 563 1 May 7, 10:26pm
           I like that idea // Aunt Dora Baggins 479 0 May 8, 4:46pm
     Front pocket of his trousers noWizardme 520 0 May 8, 8:38am
       Collapse the palantíri Felagund 516 4 May 8, 9:42am
           Collapse the Book of Mazarbul too! noWizardme 502 2 May 8, 1:27pm
               Collapse A diameter of one foot… Asger 502 1 May 8, 3:48pm
                   Changing the subject for a moment Aunt Dora Baggins 487 0 May 8, 4:48pm
           Something that large Aunt Dora Baggins 487 0 May 8, 4:51pm

  Collapse ***** Denethor Discussion: The Madman in the Tower (or, Daddy Dearest) oliphaunt 1165 70 May 2, 11:20am Jump to last post in thread (by Felagund)
       #26 oliphaunt 1040 0 May 2, 4:30pm
       Collapse Denethor's Choice Silvered-glass 1037 57 May 2, 10:52pm
           Collapse I like this palantir theory noWizardme 987 48 May 3, 11:23am
               Collapse Palantir integrity noWizardme 974 44 May 3, 4:39pm
                   Collapse Excellent refresher! oliphaunt 959 43 May 3, 10:12pm
                       Collapse I think there is an important concept of service noWizardme 904 40 May 4, 5:39pm
                           Collapse Service, Stewardship & Pride oliphaunt 894 36 May 4, 10:54pm
                               Collapse I do think you answered it. Pride cometh before the burn CuriousG 878 35 May 5, 2:57am
                                   Collapse Paranthetically - Aragorn & Beregond noWizardme 842 34 May 5, 9:59am
                                       Collapse Death or Banishment? Silvered-glass 718 33 May 6, 7:58pm
                                           Collapse you are quite right. noWizardme 458 14 May 7, 9:11am
                                               Collapse Tolkien's Catholicism, I think, is on display here. Ethel Duath 426 13 May 7, 5:01pm
                                                   Collapse Justice Silvered-glass 342 12 May 8, 9:46pm
                                                       Collapse The wheat was a metaphor of a very general principle, not of the relative importance Ethel Duath 339 9 May 8, 11:50pm
                                                           Collapse I wonder about what Denethor's servants were thinking... elentari3018 323 2 May 9, 1:44am
                                                               Collapse Well, this is only a guess, about what the servants were thinking, Ethel Duath 322 1 May 9, 2:19am
                                                                   Perhaps Denethor is great with dictating and manipulating so therefore all had to follow him elentari3018 515 0 May 10, 12:53am
                                                           Collapse Bible and Tolkien Silvered-glass 547 5 May 9, 4:11pm
                                                               Collapse Hmmm, that was exactly my point-- Ethel Duath 549 3 May 9, 5:19pm
                                                                   Collapse Denethor's Motive Silvered-glass 526 2 May 9, 8:38pm
                                                                       Except he didn't know that for sure. Ethel Duath 527 0 May 9, 8:44pm
                                                                       that's so interesting you mention Morgul wound elentari3018 514 0 May 10, 12:50am
                                                               And if it may seem Ethel Duath 541 0 May 9, 6:40pm
                                                       Collapse These are really good points. elentari3018 325 1 May 9, 1:50am
                                                           I think one of the problems with this, although Ethel Duath 587 0 May 9, 3:53am
                                           Collapse Of Old vs Now oliphaunt 438 17 May 7, 2:09pm
                                               Collapse Though perhaps... oliphaunt 438 16 May 7, 2:37pm
                                                   Collapse "Ruling is hard" noWizardme 375 15 May 8, 10:24am
                                                       Collapse Lovely "fools" oliphaunt 370 9 May 8, 11:20am
                                                           Collapse Hmm, yeah. And I think, oddly enough, Ethel Duath 366 8 May 8, 3:45pm
                                                               Collapse Arthur Hugh Clough beheads Pooh in Kings Landing - war inevitable noWizardme 365 7 May 8, 5:35pm
                                                                   Collapse Unheroic heros oliphaunt 348 3 May 8, 9:44pm
                                                                       No, never did read "Thomas Covenant" noWizardme 555 0 May 9, 1:38pm
                                                                       Hall of unHeroes Felagund 529 0 May 9, 8:24pm
                                                                       "The whiny leper" is how I remember that hero of Covenant's. Not a fan, I'm afraid. // CuriousG 454 0 May 11, 4:15am
                                                                   Collapse Aaaah! Now I'm having Heffalump nightmares! Ethel Duath 335 2 May 9, 12:30am
                                                                       Collapse Anarchy and Juice in the UK noWizardme 557 1 May 9, 1:35pm
                                                                           Ah, I see, that makes sense. Ethel Duath 528 0 May 9, 8:38pm
                                                       Tolkien and Martin Silvered-glass 342 0 May 8, 10:59pm
                                                       Collapse lol i don't think there were orc babies elentari3018 513 3 May 10, 12:56am
                                                           Collapse Of course there were Orc babies. Otaku-sempai 512 2 May 10, 1:04am
                                                               Collapse really? i didn't know that elentari3018 513 1 May 10, 1:10am
                                                                   It's in Letters Otaku-sempai 507 0 May 10, 2:26am
                           Collapse About Service Silvered-glass 459 2 May 7, 8:17am
                               Rightful noWizardme 453 0 May 7, 10:15am
                               Aragorn's Connections to Gondor Otaku-sempai 441 0 May 7, 1:56pm
                       Collapse This is such an insightful post and perhaps a good reason for Denethor's descent. elentari3018 396 1 May 8, 3:31am
                           Yes, very much so. Lots of nails on the head! // Ethel Duath 361 0 May 8, 3:58pm
               Collapse Suggested Vision Candidates Silvered-glass 969 2 May 3, 8:05pm
                   Collapse Rings of Power and the effect of Palantiri oliphaunt 952 1 May 3, 10:34pm
                       Extra Ring Silvered-glass 837 0 May 5, 11:14am
           Collapse Purge with Flame? oliphaunt 965 7 May 3, 9:19pm
               Flames and Fever Silvered-glass 810 0 May 5, 8:13pm
               Collapse Thou, Thee and You, or The KIng and I? Ethel Duath 805 5 May 5, 9:38pm
                   Thanks for the follow-up oliphaunt 800 0 May 5, 11:31pm
                   Collapse I praise thee with great praise for sharing thy findings CuriousG 741 1 May 6, 3:03pm
                       Aw, shucks! :D Ethel Duath 671 0 May 7, 3:02am
                   Collapse Pronouns Silvered-glass 717 1 May 6, 7:25pm
                       Yes: and what that means here and Ethel Duath 420 0 May 7, 5:04pm
       Collapse Some speculative answers: Ethel Duath 897 1 May 4, 9:30pm
           Aye aye Skipper oliphaunt 890 0 May 4, 11:03pm
       Collapse Daddy Dearest indeed CuriousG 875 1 May 5, 3:26am
           Whistleblower? oliphaunt 821 0 May 5, 3:47pm
       East wind Ethel Duath 473 0 May 7, 3:29am
       Collapse replies to certain q's elentari3018 393 1 May 8, 3:47am
           Denethor's end oliphaunt 374 0 May 8, 11:05am
       Collapse Of heathen kings, and my musings on a "what if" moment Kimi 497 3 May 10, 6:12am
           Love these comments. :) Ethel Duath 469 0 May 10, 8:49pm
           I love your comparison of Denethor's tipping point and Gollum's tipping point! elentari3018 458 0 May 11, 2:20am
           immolation and the 'Dark' Felagund 442 0 May 11, 9:33pm

  Collapse *** Denethor discussion: the Master of the House uncle Iorlas 1688 43 Apr 25, 2:16pm Jump to last post in thread (by Felagund)
       Collapse Huh, "cold" again, the refrain I noticed Ethel Duath 1579 1 Apr 25, 11:46pm
           Tolkien's use of 'cold' noWizardme 1544 0 Apr 26, 12:03pm
       Collapse Some thoughts noWizardme 1549 12 Apr 26, 10:59am
           Collapse wizards and warriors noWizardme 1530 7 Apr 26, 4:54pm
               Collapse not a king, not a wizard, not exactly uncle Iorlas 1538 5 Apr 26, 5:26pm
                   Collapse nor a jester, neither? noWizardme 1529 2 Apr 26, 6:59pm
                       Ha! So Tolkien said both "no" and "yes." Ethel Duath 534 0 May 4, 8:21pm
                       Convenient, stopping your pun thread right here . . . :D Ethel Duath 535 0 May 4, 8:22pm
                   Collapse My own interpretation is that Denethor knows Gandalf's origin, CuriousG 1511 1 Apr 27, 3:04am
                       I kind of always thought Ethel Duath 535 0 May 4, 8:29pm
               On completing my first read eons ago, I had trouble remembering who had been who, and CuriousG 1511 0 Apr 27, 2:55am
           Collapse the proper sort of kinging uncle Iorlas 1432 1 Apr 27, 2:14pm
               Denethor seems to pull it off, but at a cost noWizardme 1427 0 Apr 27, 3:45pm
           Collapse "The loss of faith in others is, I think, Denethor's downfall and tragedy." Ethel Duath 1429 1 Apr 27, 3:47pm
               pride : the loss of faith in others :: downfall : tragedy uncle Iorlas 1139 0 Apr 28, 3:29am
       Collapse my two cents elentari3018 1514 1 Apr 27, 2:27am
           Yes, I think it's clear that Ethel Duath 768 0 Apr 29, 5:26pm
       Collapse I don't think he's of right mind anymore elentari3018 1513 3 Apr 27, 2:30am
           Collapse I do think that's possible, and Ethel Duath 801 2 Apr 29, 5:23pm
               Collapse where was that last straw uncle Iorlas 767 1 Apr 29, 6:37pm
                   No logic for Isildur's Bane according to Denethor elentari3018 758 0 Apr 29, 7:40pm
       Collapse How fun is it to meet Denethor? CuriousG 1509 6 Apr 27, 3:14am
           Collapse some thoughts on Pippin uncle Iorlas 1124 5 Apr 28, 4:12am
               Collapse Thanks for the weighty thoughts on Pippin CuriousG 872 1 Apr 28, 2:26pm
                   The growth and role of Pippin cannot be emphasized enough. elentari3018 755 0 Apr 29, 8:03pm
               Lord Pippin: Ethel Duath 842 0 Apr 29, 4:00am
               Aptly named Ernil i Pheriannath elentari3018 761 0 Apr 29, 7:56pm
             Bravo. Excellent post, nothing to add // noWizardme 672 0 May 1, 3:47pm
       Collapse To me, oddly enough, Ethel Duath 1433 1 Apr 27, 3:38pm
           just this uncle Iorlas 1426 0 Apr 27, 5:32pm
       Collapse Religious (Catholic) Symbolism Silvered-glass 864 3 Apr 28, 5:27pm
           Well, yes, that's really interesting. Ethel Duath 852 0 Apr 28, 11:36pm
           I am also very intrigued by this uncle Iorlas 850 0 Apr 29, 12:08am
           Bit too far to stretch oliphaunt 718 0 May 1, 1:36am
       Collapse Denethor and Telepathy Silvered-glass 728 2 Apr 30, 9:16pm
           a lot of room for interpretation, here uncle Iorlas 728 0 Apr 30, 11:12pm
           The telepathic duels are among my favorite scenes CuriousG 523 0 May 5, 2:46am
       Collapse We or I? oliphaunt 677 4 May 1, 3:29pm
           Collapse I am always wondering why is Denethor alone deciding on how to manage the war elentari3018 630 3 May 2, 3:40am
               Collapse Denethor as a General Silvered-glass 605 2 May 2, 9:32am
                   Collapse I would agree that Denethor is a capable military commander uncle Iorlas 565 1 May 4, 3:33am
                       Aragorn's Military Skill Silvered-glass 536 0 May 4, 2:45pm
       Denethor & Pippin; Faramir & Frodo juxtaposed Felagund 421 0 May 8, 6:20pm

  Collapse *** Denethor Discussion: Denethor from afar Silvered-glass 1924 55 Apr 18, 8:01am Jump to last post in thread (by Ethel Duath)
       Admirably thorough! uncle Iorlas 1811 0 Apr 18, 4:31pm
       Collapse Denethor: Middle-earth's favorite topic for gossip CuriousG 1791 5 Apr 19, 12:42am
           Collapse Hiders of Information Silvered-glass 1668 4 Apr 20, 9:59pm
               Gandalf can make mistakes, yes oliphaunt 1660 0 Apr 21, 12:11am
               i agree elentari3018 1651 0 Apr 21, 2:04am
               Collapse Just to clarify CuriousG 1594 1 Apr 21, 2:38pm
                   I'm thinking entirely book!Denethor too elentari3018 1573 0 Apr 22, 12:40am
       When the rumors about you are true CuriousG 1788 0 Apr 19, 1:02am
       A person's reputation depends on who is doing the introductions, eh? : "wise" or "grudging" Lissuin 1785 0 Apr 19, 1:33am
       Bit by bit: Ethel Duath 1777 0 Apr 19, 2:29am
       Collapse I want to be careful with Denethor, as with Boromir oliphaunt 1737 1 Apr 19, 11:11pm
           "If he started out in a low place, there wouldn't be very far to fall." Ethel Duath 1644 0 Apr 21, 2:31am
       Not going to be that easy oliphaunt 1732 0 Apr 20, 12:14am
       Collapse Steward not a King oliphaunt 1660 19 Apr 20, 11:40pm
           Collapse love your explanation of the brothers elentari3018 1649 18 Apr 21, 2:07am
               Collapse When parents are too similar to children CuriousG 1591 17 Apr 21, 2:44pm
                   Collapse I strongly believe that given Ethel Duath 934 16 Apr 25, 12:35am
                       Collapse Denethor is many things, and one of them is ego-driven CuriousG 910 1 Apr 25, 11:16am
                           That is a great point elentari3018 583 0 Apr 30, 2:28am
                       Collapse I don't think it's so nefarious Silvered-glass 548 13 Apr 30, 8:32pm
                           Collapse These are interesting points to consider... elentari3018 555 12 Apr 30, 11:59pm
                               Collapse That's what's fascinating about Denethor--nothing is simple CuriousG 428 11 May 5, 2:25am
                                   Collapse I agree to this and while many people seem to doubt Denethor's love for Faramir elentari3018 338 10 May 8, 3:54am
                                       Collapse "Unthanked, unblessed." I agree in part: Ethel Duath 309 9 May 8, 4:12pm
                                           Collapse I wonder if Denethor commits suicide because of something Sauron had said in the palantir... elentari3018 295 8 May 9, 1:56am
                                               Collapse Yes, and although Ethel Duath 294 6 May 9, 2:01am
                                                   Collapse There was potential in John Noble! elentari3018 295 5 May 9, 2:11am
                                                       Yes, I don't blame Nobel at all. Ethel Duath 421 0 May 9, 3:33am
                                                       Collapse Denethor No One in Particular 397 3 May 10, 1:31am
                                                           Collapse That doesn't make sense to me because he could've just used all of Denethor's great lines elentari3018 371 2 May 11, 2:57am
                                                               Collapse "Comfort me not with wizards." That's one of my favorite Denetthor lines and movie-worthy.// CuriousG 366 1 May 11, 4:03am
                                                                   I remember people saying that the book dialogue Ethel Duath 363 0 May 11, 4:02pm
                                               Yes, and I think pretty realstic. Ethel Duath 420 0 May 9, 3:36am
       More :) Ethel Duath 1648 0 Apr 21, 1:56am
       Cheeky movie comparison noWizardme 1585 0 Apr 21, 3:52pm
       Nearing Denethor CuriousG 1571 0 Apr 21, 10:21pm
       Collapse Tower Cam oliphaunt 1569 6 Apr 21, 11:58pm
           Collapse yes i've heard of this! elentari3018 1572 5 Apr 22, 12:43am
               Collapse I just went and looked this up Ethel Duath 597 4 Apr 29, 5:03pm
                   Collapse Turn of temperment No One in Particular 588 2 Apr 30, 1:28am
                       Collapse I can see that, Ethel Duath 435 1 May 4, 8:10pm
                           Agreed that we're seeing the tail end of the story of Denethor/Faramir CuriousG 426 0 May 5, 2:28am
                   and a reason for jealousy and killing him once hope is lost? elentari3018 581 0 Apr 30, 2:28am
       Collapse coupe notes uncle Iorlas 1502 1 Apr 22, 4:12pm
           Definitely not just you CuriousG 1464 0 Apr 23, 1:22am
       Collapse Denethor the Misguided sevilodorf 1398 3 Apr 23, 3:43pm
           Collapse what did he know and when did he know it uncle Iorlas 1026 2 Apr 23, 4:31pm
               Collapse My take on it. No One in Particular 982 1 Apr 24, 2:31am
                   Sauron, Denethor, and Saruman CuriousG 950 0 Apr 24, 3:18pm
       Collapse My Answers Silvered-glass 1018 5 Apr 23, 7:28pm
           Collapse oh yeah uncle Iorlas 1029 4 Apr 23, 8:16pm
               As if the presence of a properly pedigreed king just magically summons subject populations out of the woodwork noWizardme 955 0 Apr 24, 2:55pm
               Collapse Demographic Decline Silvered-glass 939 1 Apr 24, 9:26pm
                   the decline: some specifics Felagund 938 0 Apr 24, 11:49pm
               maybe they drift because there is no leader uniting them? elentari3018 293 0 May 9, 2:05am

  Collapse don't feed them uncle Iorlas 1888 19 Apr 13, 6:06pm Jump to last post in thread (by CMackintosh)
       LOL Eldy 1824 0 Apr 14, 1:19am
       Collapse There really were four, once noWizardme 1752 17 Apr 16, 4:57pm
         Collapse I hope this is the right emoji to flag dad jokes. :) // CuriousG 1693 8 Apr 18, 12:13am
             Collapse No, no, I'm serious noWizardme 1328 7 Apr 26, 4:48pm
                   Collapse at this point I think there are five trolls uncle Iorlas 1324 6 Apr 26, 4:57pm
                     Collapse Yes I heard that too: I heard the fifth one was called Vince. noWizardme 1327 2 Apr 26, 4:58pm
                           'ere now uncle Iorlas 1322 0 Apr 26, 5:35pm
                           He wasn't there. He was out on a conn-quest. // Ethel Duath 1189 0 Apr 27, 3:42pm
                       Collapse We are expecting better policing from you, Uncle. CuriousG 1312 1 Apr 27, 2:53am
                           gum by uncle Iorlas 1310 0 Apr 27, 3:15am
                       After midnight, gonna let it all hang out ... CMackintosh 391 0 May 10, 9:47am
           Ha. Haha. Ethel Duath 1646 0 Apr 19, 1:14am
           Adding a *groan* to Ethel's *moan*. / dernwyn 1400 0 Apr 24, 4:12pm
           Collapse Conn's character was merged into Bert's noWizardme 1367 5 Apr 25, 4:59pm
               Collapse slowest swifties uncle Iorlas 1364 4 Apr 25, 5:41pm
                 "Conn went off camping", said Tom contentedly. ...// noWizardme 1333 0 Apr 26, 11:00am
                 Collapse "These 'Conn' swifties are really lowering the tone of this board," said Tom, Condescendingly :) // noWizardme 1327 2 Apr 26, 4:34pm
                       Collapse He was eaten by a cave troll said Bert, condescendingly.// Ethel Duath 1190 1 Apr 27, 3:15pm
                           I don't know where these puns will begin or end, or how to exit them, CuriousG 939 0 Apr 28, 3:20am

Collapse Denethor Discussion Sign-up Thread and potential dates. Ethel Duath 1926 21 Apr 12, 12:47am Jump to last post in thread (by CuriousG)
       Collapse just seeing this uncle Iorlas 1849 1 Apr 13, 5:53pm
           Oh, my goodness, don't worry about a thing! Ethel Duath 1839 0 Apr 13, 8:04pm
       I shall take May 9th, or, if Uncle I. can't, I'll do Apr. 25th. // Ethel Duath 1810 0 Apr 15, 12:48am
       Collapse looks like it'll be a great discussion! elentari3018 1803 1 Apr 15, 2:58am
           Looking forward to seeing you there! / Ethel Duath 1775 0 Apr 15, 3:21pm
       Collapse Volunteering Silvered-glass 1796 3 Apr 15, 8:00am
           Collapse Will do. Thank you! And Ethel Duath 1779 2 Apr 15, 3:10pm
               Collapse Post title Silvered-glass 1774 1 Apr 15, 4:33pm
                   Oh, yeah. Ethel Duath 1771 0 Apr 15, 4:47pm
       Collapse Signed up so far: Ethel Duath 1783 6 Apr 15, 3:13pm
           Collapse Have edited the post Eledhwen 1699 5 Apr 16, 9:22pm
               Thank you! :) // Ethel Duath 1678 0 Apr 17, 12:55am
               Collapse I should be fine uncle Iorlas 1641 3 Apr 17, 3:59pm
                   Glad you are feeling better oliphaunt 1629 0 Apr 17, 8:46pm
                   Oh, that's good news! Ethel Duath 1628 0 Apr 17, 11:35pm
                   Just checking--does tomorrow work for you to post?// Ethel Duath 1344 0 Apr 25, 12:39am
       May 2 oliphaunt 1747 0 Apr 16, 1:55am
       I'm not able to help much, unfortunately noWizardme 1710 0 Apr 16, 4:42pm
       Collapse Posted Silvered-glass 1591 2 Apr 18, 3:17pm
           Thank you! Yeah, sorry it was Ethel Duath 1584 0 Apr 18, 4:40pm
           It was superb. Thanks for all the thought you put into it. // CuriousG 1307 0 Apr 25, 10:49am

  Collapse The elvish way with all good beasts Cirashala 3218 21 Apr 9, 4:43am Jump to last post in thread (by Silvered-glass)
       Collapse I think it comes down to the term 'good beasts' squire 3152 4 Apr 9, 1:24pm
           Collapse "Elves have … the ability to coerce … animals" Aelfwine 3038 3 Apr 10, 3:36pm
               Thank you. Ethel Duath 3027 0 Apr 10, 5:43pm
               Collapse Excellent points squire 3030 1 Apr 10, 5:51pm
                   I might take a stab at this and say noWizardme 2898 0 Apr 12, 10:39am
       Collapse I wonder if ... Eledhwen 2943 3 Apr 11, 2:12pm
           Collapse That is a great point Cirashala 2931 2 Apr 11, 3:53pm
               Collapse Who Inspired Whom? Otaku-sempai 2923 1 Apr 11, 6:34pm
                   True Cirashala 2920 0 Apr 11, 6:41pm
       Alignment Silvered-glass 2855 0 Apr 13, 2:50pm
       Collapse I'm not exactly sure what an "elf-horse" is uncle Iorlas 2856 10 Apr 13, 5:50pm
           Cultural Differences Silvered-glass 2850 0 Apr 13, 6:26pm
           Collapse True Cirashala 2849 5 Apr 13, 6:47pm
               Collapse an interesting and new thought uncle Iorlas 2846 3 Apr 13, 7:27pm
                   Collapse Quite possibly Cirashala 2839 1 Apr 13, 8:21pm
                       Judging by what Squire said, that Tolkien Ethel Duath 2835 0 Apr 13, 10:11pm
                   Tolkien did know something about riding horses. squire 2842 0 Apr 13, 8:30pm
               Power over the Hearts Silvered-glass 2836 0 Apr 13, 8:50pm
           Collapse About that headstall: Kimi 2832 2 Apr 14, 2:00am
               Great detail - great catch squire 2822 0 Apr 14, 3:15am
               Stirrups Silvered-glass 2787 0 Apr 14, 4:43pm

  Collapse Denethor next? Dates? Ethel Duath 3868 18 Apr 4, 4:31pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ethel Duath)
       Collapse Is this the Reading Room or Dating Pages? oliphaunt 3810 7 Apr 4, 9:26pm
           TORn dating pages! Lets lobby the admins. Ethel Duath 3804 0 Apr 4, 11:19pm
           Collapse Lonely single Male; job = steward; kids = 2; seeking female, preferably with big army; having your own palantir is a plus // CuriousG 3757 5 Apr 5, 1:58pm
               Comment on his page: "Fly, you fools!" :D // Ethel Duath 3750 0 Apr 5, 4:45pm
               Collapse Enjoys oliphaunt 3749 2 Apr 5, 9:35pm
                   Ewww / SirDennisC 3733 0 Apr 6, 2:12am
                 ROFL!!! // CuriousG 3725 0 Apr 6, 4:39am
               lol! elentari3018 3538 0 Apr 9, 3:19am
       Collapse Ah, from Uncle Iorlas oliphaunt 3811 2 Apr 4, 11:09pm
           That looks really good. I do think Ethel Duath 3801 0 Apr 4, 11:29pm
           I would argue that the appendices, etc. should always be discussed after the main story texts. squire 3799 0 Apr 5, 12:59am
     Collapse So, what say you all, and sundry? The 18th? Ethel Duath 3651 2 Apr 8, 2:37am
           Collapse 18th is good by me oliphaunt 3609 1 Apr 8, 1:39pm
               Oh yes, Ethel Duath 3588 0 Apr 8, 5:46pm
       Collapse Calling Uncle Iorlas! Ethel Duath 3315 3 Apr 11, 8:22pm
           Collapse so sorry uncle Iorlas 3249 2 Apr 13, 5:40pm
               hope you feel better! elentari3018 3217 0 Apr 15, 2:55am
               RestRestRest :) Ethel Duath 3208 0 Apr 15, 5:02pm

  Collapse Éowyn and the role of women in LOTR Eledhwen 8438 38 Mar 29, 2:05pm Jump to last post in thread (by Felagund)
       Collapse You forgot one strong woman: Asger 8341 2 Mar 29, 5:01pm
           Collapse Darn! Eledhwen 8334 1 Mar 29, 6:00pm
               Lobelia, the Unlikely! Ethel Duath 8328 0 Mar 29, 11:03pm
       Collapse Eowyn grew into her role oliphaunt 8325 5 Mar 29, 11:57pm
           Collapse Once an amazon... noWizardme 8278 4 Mar 30, 6:11pm
               I suspect you're right Eledhwen 8263 0 Mar 30, 9:49pm
               Collapse Tolkien and Tokenism (kidding) CuriousG 8042 2 Apr 3, 6:49pm
                   Collapse Goodness me: CuriousG! noWizardme 4767 1 Apr 5, 9:34am
                     Truth be told: I only came back to get a new monocle // CuriousG 4751 0 Apr 5, 1:50pm
       Collapse Regarding “mistaken love” and Eowen’s love arc SirDennisC 8327 1 Mar 30, 3:52am
           I don't think that's UUT at all Eledhwen 8292 0 Mar 30, 1:31pm
       Collapse Powerful women oliphaunt 8271 2 Mar 30, 8:54pm
           Collapse Or is Rosie Cotton more relatable? Eledhwen 8263 1 Mar 30, 9:54pm
               Rosie or Eowyn? oliphaunt 8264 0 Mar 30, 10:30pm
       Collapse Eowyn as the future of Middle Earth. oliphaunt 8261 4 Mar 30, 10:13pm
           Collapse Eowyn, fertility, future CuriousG 8036 3 Apr 3, 7:19pm
               Collapse Yes, I agree. And Ethel Duath 4846 2 Apr 3, 11:40pm
                   Collapse I dunno Eledhwen 4803 1 Apr 4, 4:35pm
                       Well, yeah, could be. I'm thinking Ethel Duath 4802 0 Apr 4, 4:39pm
       Collapse Thanks for the evolutionary record! Ethel Duath 8175 2 Apr 1, 9:04pm
           Collapse I credit Edith Eledhwen 8124 1 Apr 2, 12:45pm
               That really makes a lot of sense. Ethel Duath 8082 0 Apr 2, 8:48pm
       Collapse Eowyn what-ifs CuriousG 8038 2 Apr 3, 7:43pm
           Collapse humanize or hobbitize? oliphaunt 8030 1 Apr 3, 8:49pm
               All of them at once! :) CuriousG 8035 0 Apr 3, 9:09pm
       Holy plot changes, Batman CuriousG 8037 0 Apr 3, 9:05pm
       Collapse Reading things in context CuriousG 8039 5 Apr 3, 9:39pm
           Collapse I'm with you Eledhwen 4807 2 Apr 4, 4:52pm
               Looking ahead oliphaunt 4796 0 Apr 4, 9:24pm
               It does seem like opening a can of worms CuriousG 4760 0 Apr 5, 1:49pm
           "Tolkien had a mostly male audience for many decades" squire 4806 0 Apr 4, 6:26pm
           Q4: modern and period sensibilities noWizardme 4769 0 Apr 5, 10:59am
       Them's fightin' wurdz CuriousG 8027 0 Apr 3, 9:56pm
       Collapse Tolkien and strong women: Haleth, if you haven't read The Silmarilion CuriousG 8028 2 Apr 3, 10:14pm
           Collapse Yes, Haleth's story was very striking. Ethel Duath 4844 1 Apr 4, 2:49am
               Indeed Eledhwen 4802 0 Apr 4, 4:34pm
       If Eowyn hadn't survived... elentari3018 4631 0 Apr 9, 3:33am
       precursors to the shield-maidens of Rohan Felagund 985 0 May 14, 11:06pm

  Collapse Aaargh ... Eledhwen 3044 1 Mar 28, 4:48pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ethel Duath)
       No worries! Ethel Duath 3035 0 Mar 28, 8:06pm

  Collapse Tolkien - The Father of Fantasy Eruonen 3407 2 Mar 25, 3:38am Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       Collapse Well, the father of modern fantasy perhaps. Otaku-sempai 3331 1 Mar 25, 8:21pm
           The documentary does clearly give examples of the literary sources that influenced him. Eruonen 3275 0 Mar 26, 3:50pm
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