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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Reading Room (-->Including links to old RR discussions!) Altaira 267039 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:11am Jump to last post in thread (by AltairaGuest)

  Collapse Sticky: General notice re book discussions and the use of copyrighted materials Ataahua 248804 1 Jun 20 2007, 5:15am Jump to last post in thread (by Wynnie)

Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 250219 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:44pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Collapse Has anyone read the titles from Osprey books? Eruonen 2367 3 Oct 5, 2:51am Jump to last post in thread (by Eruonen)
       It appears they are more focused on a wider fantasy concepts than just Tolkien = Eruonen 2355 0 Oct 5, 3:11am
       Collapse interesting, thank you! Felagund 2115 1 Oct 6, 11:13pm
           Yeah, I imagine they have covered most significant conflicts in world history and Eruonen 2089 0 Oct 7, 2:39am

  Collapse Favorite Song/Poem from Fellowship, Two Towers or Return of the King ArathornJax 1669 15 Oct 4, 11:56pm Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)
       Collapse Welcome (back) to the Reading Room, ArathornJax noWizardme 1603 5 Oct 6, 11:35am
           Collapse Hey, maybe we could discuss the poetry and in-book poets, next! Ethel Duath 1587 3 Oct 6, 5:34pm
               Collapse Appropriately to this thread... noWizardme 1576 2 Oct 6, 6:36pm
                   Collapse Ah, yes. Meneldor 1540 1 Oct 6, 10:29pm
                       I had this hunch that... noWizardme 1510 0 Oct 7, 1:40pm
           Long time observer Back to Posting ArathornJax 1523 0 Oct 7, 2:30am
       What a wonderful post! Ethel Duath 1587 0 Oct 6, 5:36pm
       Collapse Easy: Errantry AshNazg 1587 5 Oct 6, 5:49pm
         Collapse Correction: Errantry is not in Lord of the Rings AshNazg 1587 4 Oct 6, 5:53pm
               Collapse But your point about the technical difficulties of 'Errantry' is still valid of course! noWizardme 1585 3 Oct 6, 6:09pm
                   I did not know that piece of trivia! AshNazg 1571 0 Oct 6, 7:03pm
                   Collapse It is indeed "Errantry" Kimi 1550 1 Oct 6, 10:02pm
                       Ah splendid - that is what I was remembering! noWizardme 1512 0 Oct 7, 1:53pm
       Collapse My interpretation of Sit Beside the Fire... AshNazg 1582 1 Oct 6, 6:13pm
           I can see how that works noWizardme 1499 0 Oct 7, 2:56pm

  Collapse A "what if" military scenario- LOTR Tolkien R.J.J 18955 36 Sep 24, 1:33am Jump to last post in thread (by Meneldor)
       Collapse Your last sentence is the most important. squire 18908 4 Sep 24, 2:05am
           True Tolkien R.J.J 18845 0 Sep 24, 11:19am
           Collapse How to deal with the One Ring Silvered-glass 18740 2 Sep 25, 6:33pm
               Collapse There are nameless things Meneldor 18732 1 Sep 25, 9:47pm
                   The Nameless Things vs. the One Ring Silvered-glass 18650 0 Sep 26, 10:41am
       Collapse How the war would continue, assuming the Ring were not destroyed GreenHillFox 18525 1 Sep 27, 1:06pm
           Victory or Stalemate? Tolkien R.J.J 18522 0 Sep 27, 1:16pm
       Collapse Which sort of 'what if'? (I can only help with one kind) noWizardme 17875 28 Sep 30, 12:00pm
           Collapse Great Post Tolkien R.J.J 17838 8 Sep 30, 1:55pm
               Believe me, I do understand the temptation of asking questions that have no possible answers noWizardme 17820 0 Sep 30, 2:57pm
               Collapse Sauron's forces are more numerable than the Elves, men and dwarves at that time elentari3018 17166 6 Oct 2, 1:20am
                   Collapse Orc vs Elf/ Attack vs Defence Tolkien R.J.J 17154 5 Oct 2, 1:37am
                       Collapse For the Battle of the Black Gate, elentari3018 17143 1 Oct 2, 1:52am
                           I generally agree! Tolkien R.J.J 17136 0 Oct 2, 2:05am
                       Collapse Ents, eagles etc. noWizardme 40824 2 Oct 2, 3:00pm
                           Collapse Tolkien...is Dead!! Tolkien R.J.J 40821 1 Oct 2, 3:37pm
                               Hey, I'd just relax and enjoy the fanarchy if I were you noWizardme 40721 0 Oct 3, 8:41am
           Collapse "...there is a third kind of 'what if?' in the Reading Room." squire 17683 17 Oct 1, 12:27am
             Darn, a fourth kind! And we're already out of scarlet uniforms! noWizardme 17549 0 Oct 1, 9:26am
               Collapse A quick dive beneath the waves brought up my post on Dragon predation squire 17300 15 Oct 1, 9:59pm
                   Collapse What's the UUT on what sustains a Balrog? sevilodorf 17294 10 Oct 1, 10:11pm
                       Collapse Well, of course, any Balrog diet must include Ethel Duath 17275 7 Oct 1, 10:33pm
                           Collapse Yes indeed and also it ate... noWizardme 16859 6 Oct 2, 11:48am
                               Collapse Ha! So that's where "the music" died. :D // Ethel Duath 40750 4 Oct 3, 1:39am
                                 Collapse What?! It ate Don McLean as well? noWizardme 40727 3 Oct 3, 7:32am
                                       Yes, of course. I've heard he Ethel Duath 40692 0 Oct 3, 4:17pm
                                       Collapse *another groan* dernwyn 453 1 Sat, 1:03pm
                                         Oh, I got it all right. Meneldor 368 0 Sat, 5:11pm
                               And a groan was heard unto the uttermost west... Ataahua 40071 0 Oct 4, 7:43pm
                       Has anyone jumped down the Balrog rabbithole? noWizardme 16853 0 Oct 2, 11:52am
                     Ah wait, I have it! noWizardme 40721 0 Oct 3, 7:45am
                   Collapse Tangent: Dragon Ecology Silvered-glass 16975 2 Oct 2, 7:42am
                       Collapse Dragons of Middle-earth Otaku-sempai 40823 1 Oct 2, 1:49pm
                           Dragon Bio(?)logy Silvered-glass 40796 0 Oct 2, 6:28pm
                 Thanks for finding that - nice to enjoy it all over again. noWizardme 16850 0 Oct 2, 11:50am
           Excellent post elentari3018 17160 0 Oct 2, 1:27am

Collapse Whither, Eorlingas? (Next character discussion possibilities) Ethel Duath 2975 6 Sep 11, 3:01pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ethel Duath)
       Collapse welcome back! elentari3018 2786 1 Sep 13, 2:30am
           Thank you! Ethel Duath 2691 0 Sep 13, 5:30pm
       Collapse I could help with "Wormtongue" noWizardme 2226 3 Sep 16, 1:07pm
           Collapse Sounds like a plan! Ethel Duath 2164 2 Sep 16, 9:41pm
               Collapse Merry! CuriousG 1971 1 Sep 18, 7:58pm
                   Yes! I do like the Ethel Duath 1837 0 Sep 19, 5:22pm

  Those Wicked Orcs (Part 5, the last part) - “Orcish behaviour is also human behaviour” noWizardme 1094 0 Sep 1, 10:26am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Those Wicked Orcs (Part 4) - "The Poor Brutes" noWizardme 1084 0 Sep 1, 10:22am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Those Wicked Orcs (Part 3) - Just Wars versus “Just War” noWizardme 1093 0 Sep 1, 10:15am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Those Wicked Orcs (Part 2)- “irredeemable wickedness should be ascribed only to individuals" noWizardme 1070 0 Sep 1, 10:07am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)

  Collapse Those wicked orcs (Part 1) “I am not quite happy about these beings” noWizardme 2665 12 Sep 1, 10:05am Jump to last post in thread (by Felagund)
       Collapse Mercy of the Elves Otaku-sempai 2633 5 Sep 1, 2:08pm
           Collapse Are you thinking of something Tolkien wrote? noWizardme 2623 4 Sep 1, 2:34pm
               Collapse The Hobbit Otaku-sempai 2604 1 Sep 1, 6:34pm
                   Thanks! I see what you mean now // noWizardme 2582 0 Sep 1, 8:14pm
               Collapse a bit more on Orc captives & mercy Felagund 2591 1 Sep 1, 7:38pm
                   "- and on it went...!" Yes indeed - but nice to think Auden was wrong about his "only kill" // noWizardme 2579 0 Sep 1, 8:17pm
       Collapse better than an airport book ;) Felagund 2618 1 Sep 1, 2:53pm
           Enjoy! and bon voyage noWizardme 2617 0 Sep 1, 3:22pm
       Collapse The Nature of the Orcs Silvered-glass 2583 3 Sep 1, 8:26pm
           Collapse Well, that's a novel idea (to me at least)! noWizardme 2458 2 Sep 2, 6:26pm
               Collapse Greek Mythology Connections Silvered-glass 1883 1 Sep 7, 9:27pm
                   into the West Felagund 1679 0 Sep 8, 7:26pm

  Collapse Three-volume collection of Tolkien's poetry to be published. Kimi 1430 3 Aug 29, 3:00am Jump to last post in thread (by noWizardme)
       Collapse Can you imagine Ataahua 1418 2 Aug 29, 3:37am
           That was Ethel Duath 1368 0 Aug 29, 5:01pm
         'Bealuwérig': how one feelsh after too mush to drink...ishn't it? // noWizardme 1190 0 Sep 1, 2:35pm

  Collapse Meta/Fourth Wall Joke in The Silmarillion QuackingTroll 2433 5 Aug 17, 11:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by Silvered-glass)
       I always get the sense Tolkien is hinting... QuackingTroll 2416 0 Aug 18, 12:03am
       Collapse Hmmm... Morthoron 2109 2 Aug 23, 1:08am
           Collapse I understand that much... QuackingTroll 2039 1 Aug 23, 6:18pm
               Eru had to cut off the Valar's knowledge of the future at some point.... Morthoron 2016 0 Aug 23, 9:06pm
       Foreseeing Sauron Silvered-glass 1897 0 Aug 24, 8:03pm

  Collapse Hobbit post 7-"Evolution of hobbits and how their seed of courage had been awakened: The growth of courage in the the 'Quest Hobbits' elentari3018 4006 60 Jul 25, 2:49pm Jump to last post in thread (by elentari3018)
       Collapse I fear 'tis but a mere pebble that I throw into your vast ocean of great thoughts CuriousG 3863 1 Jul 26, 2:30am
           Always liked this quote elentari3018 3303 0 Aug 1, 2:35am
       Collapse "to lord and land and league of friendship!" noWizardme 3772 27 Jul 26, 5:26pm
           Collapse coming " . . . back to regular life after the thrills and traumas of conflict - and finding that you have become the alien." Ethel Duath 3396 4 Jul 31, 3:46am
               Collapse That's how I think about it - “I tried to save the Shire, and it has been saved, but not for me.” noWizardme 3266 3 Aug 1, 10:36am
                   And this is why Tolkien is endless Ethel Duath 3214 0 Aug 1, 11:39pm
                   Collapse Letter 246 is a jewel of a letter elentari3018 3173 1 Aug 2, 3:48am
                       Frodo & Sam noWizardme 3058 0 Aug 2, 5:57pm
           Collapse reply about hobbits growth elentari3018 3302 21 Aug 1, 2:40am
               Collapse I think... noWizardme 3256 20 Aug 1, 12:16pm
                   Collapse This is the reason why he's my favorite character and i fell in love with him first. elentari3018 3173 19 Aug 2, 3:40am
                       Collapse It strikes me that we ought to link this to noWizardme 3062 12 Aug 2, 5:28pm
                           Collapse just two initial points elentari3018 2951 11 Aug 4, 2:30am
                               Collapse Eucatastrophe noWizardme 2926 6 Aug 4, 9:51am
                                   Collapse What's the link between eucatastrophe and courage? noWizardme 2918 5 Aug 4, 11:40am
                                       Collapse I mean, seriously! "Horns, horns, horns"--I *still* get a lump in my throat when I read that! // CuriousG 2838 4 Aug 4, 9:35pm
                                           Collapse One more 'eucatastrophe candidate' then noWizardme 1719 3 Aug 5, 10:41am
                                               Collapse Dissecting courage in a what-if way CuriousG 1697 1 Aug 5, 5:29pm
                                                   supercharged... noWizardme 1692 0 Aug 5, 7:27pm
                                               "eucatastrophe" is definitely for the erudite CuriousG 1694 0 Aug 5, 6:28pm
                             Collapse Ah - "Dutch courage" :) [tangent] noWizardme 2903 3 Aug 4, 12:20pm
                                   Collapse I never heard that gin came to England from the Dutch! squire 2895 2 Aug 4, 1:40pm
                                       Collapse Yep - one of those English things that aren't... noWizardme 2865 1 Aug 4, 6:42pm
                                           But, in Britain's defense.... Morthoron 1749 0 Aug 4, 11:51pm
                       Collapse Another vote for Frodo as #1 CuriousG 2842 5 Aug 4, 9:28pm
                           Collapse Frodo an unusual 'me' character noWizardme 1718 4 Aug 5, 12:06pm
                               Collapse The "chosen one" who's more "everyman" than superhero CuriousG 1688 3 Aug 5, 8:48pm
                                   Collapse "Frodo was very brave, wasn't he, dad?" (and Pippin does not remain luggage) noWizardme 1601 2 Aug 6, 4:06pm
                                       Collapse I think "forced" is key in Tolkien CuriousG 1621 1 Aug 6, 6:03pm
                                           ‘If you have walked all these days with closed ears and mind asleep, wake up now!’ noWizardme 1537 0 Aug 7, 11:18am
       Collapse How about - gosh - me actually answering the questions <3 ? noWizardme 3246 11 Aug 1, 6:48pm
           Collapse Regarding Fatty elentari3018 2949 1 Aug 4, 2:35am
               yes indeed: Freddy the fifth heroic hobbit. // noWizardme 2919 0 Aug 4, 10:00am
         Collapse OK, but I think the avatar change requires a name change to noFrogme // CuriousG 2840 8 Aug 4, 9:30pm
             Collapse Or... noWizardme 1721 7 Aug 5, 10:14am
                   Collapse Crapo haiku CuriousG 1702 3 Aug 5, 4:30pm
                     Collapse Oh no! If I must noWizardme 1695 2 Aug 5, 5:38pm
                           Collapse AI-inspired haiku CuriousG 1696 1 Aug 5, 5:59pm
                             Oh Botheration noWizardme 1692 0 Aug 5, 6:49pm
                 Collapse well, the mention of frogs in LOTR that comes to mind is CuriousG 1694 2 Aug 5, 6:47pm
                     Collapse Crapo looks worrying like - "so he did that to you too, eh" :) // noWizardme 1603 1 Aug 6, 3:03pm
                           The Bag End garden is full of tombstones of former hobbits turned to spotted toads CuriousG 1627 0 Aug 6, 5:48pm
       Collapse A tribute to moral courage CuriousG 1613 2 Aug 6, 6:28pm
           Collapse Important. noWizardme 1535 1 Aug 7, 2:20pm
               I do like this point about moral courage elentari3018 1397 0 Aug 9, 2:02am
       Collapse the inkling(s) of Samwise Felagund 1431 14 Aug 8, 9:43pm
           Collapse What the hobbits agreed to at Crickhollow CuriousG 1426 3 Aug 8, 11:12pm
               Merry and PIppin wanted to go to Gondor and not to Mordor elentari3018 1397 0 Aug 9, 1:59am
               Collapse 'you do not understand and cannot imagine what lies ahead' noWizardme 2300 1 Aug 9, 3:28pm
                   As the Wise rule out strength and wisdom CuriousG 2192 0 Aug 10, 6:11pm
           Collapse I think Sam understood the gravity of the situation as shown in elentari3018 1401 8 Aug 9, 1:56am
               Collapse Sam has several sources of knowledge noWizardme 2297 5 Aug 9, 6:12pm
                 Collapse just teasing, but couldn't hold back: Has Wiz been abducted? Is he sending us coded messages? CuriousG 2204 3 Aug 10, 6:06pm
                     Collapse Complicated Tale (Completely True!) noWizardme 2154 2 Aug 11, 9:30am
                         Collapse Criminal Trespass at castle's tower CuriousG 2116 1 Aug 11, 2:25pm
                               Curses! Tricked! noWizardme 2091 0 Aug 11, 6:49pm
                   For Sam's motivation, did he have the slow kindled courage too that was going to develop? elentari3018 1651 0 Aug 16, 2:16am
               Collapse The Breaking of the Fellowship abounds with incidents of courage CuriousG 2113 1 Aug 11, 2:35pm
                   I missed that line so much which wasn't included in the movies. :p elentari3018 1651 0 Aug 16, 2:20am
           Also forgot to say that i love this poem too! elentari3018 2349 0 Aug 9, 2:17am

  Collapse I assume Tolkien read some of the Bronte' sisters stories.... Eruonen 3894 25 Jul 16, 11:43pm Jump to last post in thread (by Ethel Duath)
       Collapse Tolkien came up with 'Gondor' from root words in his own invented languages squire 3804 2 Jul 17, 12:05pm
           Collapse Thanks for the detailed response. Eruonen 3792 1 Jul 17, 2:55pm
               I think there was a similair style of writing which everyonee used in those days Hamfast Gamgee 3700 0 Jul 18, 9:47am
       Collapse I felt some of Tolkien's subelty had been missed by this critic noWizardme 3775 17 Jul 17, 6:13pm
           Collapse Well, Catholicism and most of Christianity does reflect Eruonen 3766 1 Jul 17, 7:14pm
               This is tangental, obviously. noWizardme 3706 0 Jul 18, 9:38am
           Collapse More subtelty noWizardme 3703 11 Jul 18, 11:19am
               Collapse "crude black-and-white moralism, in which it is clear to everyone what is good and what is bad" noWizardme 3694 5 Jul 18, 11:34am
                   sublime :) Felagund 3649 0 Jul 18, 8:19pm
                   Collapse So it can be argued that Éomer is similarly morally flawed and that Théoden is well aware of it. Darkstone 2333 3 Aug 15, 5:03am
                       Collapse Yes, I think so noWizardme 2280 2 Aug 15, 2:57pm
                           Collapse Éowyn's tragedy Felagund 2255 1 Aug 15, 7:11pm
                               Glad you liked it. noWizardme 2163 0 Aug 16, 2:15pm
               That 'Smeagol reformed' discussion noWizardme 3680 0 Jul 18, 1:44pm
               Collapse I am glad this post resulted in your in-depth analysis Eruonen 3668 2 Jul 18, 4:58pm
                   Collapse subjective understanding noWizardme 3659 1 Jul 18, 6:34pm
                       Slight intonation changes can make a difference too....Tolkien was fond of ! exclamations Eruonen 3642 0 Jul 18, 8:44pm
               Another compare/contrast... noWizardme 3599 0 Jul 19, 9:09am
           Collapse I don't think Tolkien is interested in a battle of black versus white. Darkstone 2324 2 Aug 15, 5:52am
               Collapse I agree. Should we wax philosophical... noWizardme 2279 1 Aug 15, 3:52pm
                   evil as degradation / the degradation of evil Felagund 2240 0 Aug 15, 8:01pm
       On a tangent....really nice video on Bronte country Eruonen 3755 0 Jul 17, 8:15pm
       Gondor / Gondar Felagund 3658 0 Jul 18, 7:38pm
       Collapse Poem Na Vedui 1830 1 Aug 19, 1:30pm
           Well, yes, it Ethel Duath 945 0 Aug 21, 2:12am

  Collapse Translating Naffarin with AI AshNazg 2287 3 Jul 11, 11:10pm Jump to last post in thread (by Silvered-glass)
       Collapse AI Hallucinations Silvered-glass 2121 1 Jul 14, 8:11am
           Yes and no... AshNazg 2123 0 Jul 14, 8:33am
       So I looked into A Secret Vice... Silvered-glass 1601 0 Aug 1, 9:24pm

  Collapse Hobbit Post 6: "Changes in the Shire from A Long-Expected Party to The Grey Havens” Ethel Duath 4715 33 Jul 2, 2:14am Jump to last post in thread (by CuriousG)
       Collapse No answers, but a contribution of sorts noWizardme 4608 4 Jul 2, 2:34pm
           At last, some answers! noWizardme 4598 0 Jul 2, 4:33pm
           Oh, very good. And thank you Ethel Duath 4576 0 Jul 2, 10:15pm
           Collapse From a literary sense, I appreciate all the hints and mystery about Sharkey in the Shire CuriousG 4505 1 Jul 3, 6:31pm
               " . . . destroying Sauron wasn't the end of it, even in the place you expect it the least." Ethel Duath 4084 0 Jul 6, 7:45pm
       Collapse Lotho's only mistake was not being tyrannical enough CuriousG 4502 12 Jul 3, 6:45pm
           Collapse 'good chaps' and white wolves noWizardme 4414 9 Jul 4, 5:29pm
               Collapse That is certainly true CuriousG 4402 8 Jul 4, 6:51pm
                   Collapse gathering my thoughts... noWizardme 2157 7 Jul 14, 11:00am
                       Collapse Lotho and Economic Weaknesses in the Shire Silvered-glass 1934 3 Jul 16, 9:39am
                           Economics noWizardme 1848 0 Jul 17, 11:41am
                           Collapse Middle-earth money Hamfast Gamgee 1801 1 Jul 18, 9:39am
                               Money makes Middle-earth go around! Otaku-sempai 1789 0 Jul 18, 3:40pm
                       some cutting room floor thoughts of my own Felagund 1772 0 Jul 18, 8:13pm
                       PS Felagund 1770 0 Jul 18, 8:15pm
                       I think this part is key CuriousG 1765 0 Jul 18, 10:01pm
           Collapse You have an interesting point about Shire government elentari3018 3552 1 Jul 12, 11:55pm
               Tolkien's thoughts on government noWizardme 2149 0 Jul 14, 11:10am
       Collapse 'Shabby destruction', and a 'basis in experience, though slender' noWizardme 4428 2 Jul 4, 11:53am
           Collapse That passage sheds more light on his distaste for allegory CuriousG 4405 1 Jul 4, 6:41pm
               allergy to allegory noWizardme 4401 0 Jul 4, 7:03pm
       4A: "If the War of the Ring had not defeated Sauron, what would have been the fate of the Shire?" noWizardme 4418 0 Jul 4, 3:06pm
       Collapse subversion and exploitation Felagund 4384 6 Jul 4, 11:34pm
           Collapse Collaborators and Mitläuferen noWizardme 4302 1 Jul 5, 6:05pm
               fascinating! Felagund 4121 0 Jul 6, 4:18pm
           Collapse Good vs evil CuriousG 4260 3 Jul 5, 11:09pm
               Collapse re: good vs evil Felagund 4115 2 Jul 6, 4:48pm
                   "Not a dragon, but . . ." Ethel Duath 4100 0 Jul 6, 6:39pm
                   In an odd sort of way, it seems Tolkien enjoyed documenting Saruman's fall CuriousG 4087 0 Jul 6, 7:36pm
       Collapse I don't have my books with me but two thoughts are triggered here.... sevilodorf 3718 2 Jul 11, 1:00am
           Would Merry and Pippin know how to guide a rebellion without the skills acquired from Ents and later in Rohan and Gondor? elentari3018 3550 0 Jul 12, 11:58pm
           It was Elrond noWizardme 3374 0 Jul 14, 9:32am
       Replies elentari3018 3550 0 Jul 13, 12:12am
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