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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to Off Topic Altaira 28736 0 Dec 28 2006, 3:40am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

  Collapse Sticky: Official Introduction & Welcome Thread Altaira 80403 558 Feb 17 2007, 8:45pm Jump to last post in thread (by Jade Jess)

  Sticky: Guys, PLEASE follow TORn's picture posting guidelines with regard to picture size Altaira 24366 0 Jun 28 2008, 7:31pm Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

  Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 26190 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

  Collapse PJ in Oxford + The Cushion Vote! ShireHorse 112 6 Thu, 12:20am Jump to last post in thread (by ShireHorse)
       Collapse I wonder Ataahua 98 1 Thu, 1:03am
           When I think of the Americanisation ShireHorse 55 0 Thu, 10:16am
       They put their faces on cushions? dernwyn 87 0 Thu, 1:40am
       Hmm... Ilmatar 68 0 Thu, 7:18am
       Collapse Thanks for this! dormouse 55 1 Thu, 9:43am
           I'm hoping, dormouse, ShireHorse 49 0 Thu, 10:20am

  Collapse Article on tea times with fun LOTR shout out (plus another surprise LOTR connection) zarabia 73 2 Wed, 12:09pm Jump to last post in thread (by zarabia)
       Collapse Thank you for that! Elarie 57 1 Wed, 12:46pm
           Just remember... zarabia 30 0 Thu, 4:01am

  Collapse It's the slightly tardy Reading Thread! Annael 142 7 Tue, 6:41pm Jump to last post in thread (by entmaiden)
       Dark Run Ataahua 109 0 Tue, 8:12pm
       Collapse "The Martian" by Andy Weir Kimi 97 3 Wed, 12:28am
           Collapse I'm intrigued. Ataahua 80 1 Wed, 3:33am
               That cartoon Kimi 73 0 Wed, 3:40am
           I loved The Martian entmaiden 24 0 Thu, 4:17pm
       Voyager and Saxon Shore - some spoilers Old Toby 72 0 Wed, 3:40am
       Words withut Pictures Otaku-sempai 64 0 Wed, 4:29am

  Collapse i found it funny balbo biggins 170 2 Jun 26, 6:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eruvandi)
     Me too! Thanks Balbo...// Bracegirdle 132 0 Jun 26, 8:55pm
       *snert* Eruvandi 38 0 Tue, 6:11pm

Collapse Its a hot one...so what have YOU been watching this week? Brethil 610 52 Jun 26, 4:02pm Jump to last post in thread (by Aragorn the Elfstone)
       Collapse Jurassic World (again), Under the Dome... Queen of Erebor 455 3 Jun 26, 10:43pm
         Collapse My it IS a Jurassic week for you, QoE! Literally! Brethil 245 2 Mon, 2:49am
               Collapse Brethil, that T-Rex scene The Grey Elf 203 1 Mon, 1:51pm
                   Jeff Goldblum Brethil 151 0 Tue, 2:13am
       Collapse The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness, Nurse Jackie, Poldark, vintage Corrie Starling 423 1 Jun 27, 5:43am
           Hooray on Poldark finale! Brethil 236 0 Mon, 2:59am
       Collapse With the exception of Poldark, The Grey Elf 403 3 Jun 27, 4:36pm
           Collapse Hey there Grey Elf Old Toby 396 1 Jun 27, 4:49pm
               Thanks for the tip on Outlander, Old Toby! The Grey Elf 392 0 Jun 27, 5:53pm
           Yes, lots of revisits Brethil 229 0 Mon, 3:09am
       Collapse Inside Out Altaira 370 2 Jun 27, 10:48pm
           We are seeing Inside Out tomorrow! Brethil 229 0 Mon, 3:12am
           Really want to see Inside Out, too. The Grey Elf 200 0 Mon, 1:45pm
       Collapse Complications, Poldark, Halt & Catch Fire Kilidoescartwheels 361 1 Jun 27, 11:12pm
         'Complications' Brethil 225 0 Mon, 3:15am
       Collapse I started Adrianna 327 4 Sun, 10:34am
           Collapse Halt and Catch Fire - Brethil 224 3 Mon, 3:16am
               Collapse Great. Adrianna 179 2 Mon, 3:47pm
                 Collapse I can see that! Brethil 154 1 Tue, 1:55am
                       It was a surprise. Adrianna 70 0 Tue, 11:27pm
       Collapse Spy Elberbeth 318 2 Sun, 3:08pm
           Collapse I'm hearing funny reviews for Spy! Brethil 222 1 Mon, 3:18am
               Mostly they didn't even try Elberbeth 201 0 Mon, 1:44pm
       Collapse Poldark; Forsyte Saga; Death in Paradise; a bunch of oldies Annael 310 2 Sun, 4:36pm
           I love Death in Paradise! Brethil 217 0 Mon, 3:24am
           Annael, I'm a big fan of both the Poldark The Grey Elf 193 0 Mon, 2:00pm
       Collapse SyFy Fridays -- Defiance -- Killjoys -- Dark Matter sevilodorf 277 3 Sun, 11:17pm
           yeah, the Firefly influence Annael 263 0 Mon, 12:54am
           Collapse SYFY lineup for you! Brethil 213 1 Mon, 3:27am
               Killjoy cast sevilodorf 150 0 Tue, 1:58am
       Collapse ""Fortitude" and "Young Victoria" Kimi 265 2 Mon, 1:04am
         Collapse Your watching week sounds a bit like mine, Kimi! Brethil 210 1 Mon, 3:31am
               There's a mystery Kimi 218 0 Mon, 4:04am
     Collapse Fun BTS video from tonight's ep of Poldark The Grey Elf 231 3 Mon, 3:09am
         Collapse That's very fun looking! Brethil 226 2 Mon, 3:36am
               Collapse Remember the notorious nudie calendar The Grey Elf 165 1 Tue, 12:14am
                 I'd like to see that calendar. JUST to confirm you brilliant idea there. Brethil 151 0 Tue, 2:02am
       Collapse The Theory of Everything, Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb, Poldark Kim 219 1 Mon, 5:21am
         NatM: the film we kept getting seated at instead of BoFA!!!! Brethil 134 0 Tue, 2:51am
       Collapse Into The Woods, The Butler and Poldark, of course! The Grey Elf 206 2 Mon, 1:42pm
           Masses, positively masses, of Poldark chat and spoilers below. Warned! Brethil 140 0 Tue, 2:32am
           Ah, thanks for the explanation Kim 116 0 Tue, 4:00am
       Collapse Finally was able to catch the first Poldark. Dame Ioreth 164 1 Tue, 1:09am
           Poldark chat, with some spoilers: Brethil 158 0 Tue, 2:10am
       Collapse Sundays -- AMC and TNT thanks to On Demand sevilodorf 149 2 Tue, 2:11am
           Collapse Rest and ice! Might as well watch good stuff. Brethil 142 1 Tue, 2:18am
               Lee Pace sevilodorf 95 0 Tue, 3:01pm
       Poldark and Spy Old Toby 128 0 Tue, 3:12am
       Add me to the Poldark love... Patty 54 0 Wed, 11:37am
       Collapse Terminator Genisys Aragorn the Elfstone 71 2 Wed, 10:17pm
           Collapse Thanks for this Kim 40 1 Thu, 4:37am
               You're welcome. :) Aragorn the Elfstone 31 0 Thu, 5:07am

  Collapse *THROWS OPEN DOORS* Itís Fiesta Time!! grammaboodawg 218 41 Jun 26, 4:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by Dame Ioreth)
       Collapse It's a Saturn Awards Congratulations Fiesta! dernwyn 165 2 Jun 26, 4:13pm
         Love Block Island! Brethil 161 0 Jun 26, 4:14pm
           No! I didn't see that! AWESOME! :D grammaboodawg 159 0 Jun 26, 4:16pm
     Collapse Happy Friday Gramma! Brethil 170 6 Jun 26, 4:13pm
           Collapse Big time congrats to your youngster! grammaboodawg 159 1 Jun 26, 4:19pm
               Sending growing thoughts to your Sis's tree, Gramma! Brethil 129 0 Jun 26, 6:03pm
           Collapse Whoop! dernwyn 153 1 Jun 26, 4:38pm
               Yes what a week for weather! Brethil 130 0 Jun 26, 6:01pm
           Collapse I watched that clip of his flying "lesson" Dame Ioreth 59 1 Mon, 4:06pm
               We did have a nice day! Brethil 49 0 Tue, 1:59am
       Collapse Hey, gramma! :) Eventides 155 4 Jun 26, 4:33pm
           Collapse Hi, Evey! dernwyn 152 1 Jun 26, 4:41pm
               Thanks; you, too! :) // Eventides 150 0 Jun 26, 4:44pm
           Collapse Hey Evey!! :D grammaboodawg 153 1 Jun 26, 4:43pm
               Thanks! :) // Eventides 150 0 Jun 26, 4:45pm
       Collapse Got home last night from working out-of-town Dame Ioreth 165 3 Jun 26, 4:34pm
           Wow! grammaboodawg 153 0 Jun 26, 4:49pm
           Oh, no! dernwyn 149 0 Jun 26, 4:56pm
           Oh sheesh! I hate that *impact* sound... Brethil 135 0 Jun 26, 5:56pm
       Collapse One of my favorite events tonight entmaiden 162 2 Jun 26, 4:38pm
           Oh! Excellent! grammaboodawg 149 0 Jun 26, 4:52pm
           That event sounds like fun! dernwyn 145 0 Jun 26, 4:58pm
       **HANGS OUT SELF-SERVE SIGN** Have a wonderful weekend, everyone :) // grammaboodawg 144 0 Jun 26, 4:59pm
       Collapse Just back from seeing Jurassic World Jazmine 147 1 Jun 26, 5:19pm
           A new kitchen!? grammaboodawg 36 0 Tue, 11:55am
       Collapse *dusts off bottle of Old Wynyards* Ataahua 111 6 Jun 26, 9:19pm
           Collapse I thought you might be busy Starling 105 3 Jun 26, 9:28pm
               Collapse Did you get any snow in your part of Christchurch? Ataahua 138 2 Jun 26, 9:47pm
                   Collapse Only a little bit, thankfully Starling 135 1 Jun 26, 9:58pm
                       I read about that. I'm glad you stayed safe Ataahua 133 0 Jun 26, 10:15pm
           A well-earned rest! Kimi 114 0 Jun 27, 4:13am
           The weather is definitely in charge grammaboodawg 34 0 Tue, 12:03pm
       Collapse It's gonna be a scorcher! Kim 123 1 Jun 27, 1:36am
           Hot Hot Hot! grammaboodawg 35 0 Tue, 12:05pm
       Collapse The Eagle has landed! Dame Ioreth 119 4 Jun 27, 5:03am
           Collapse I remember when my nephew made Eagle Annael 95 1 Jun 27, 2:46pm
               Thank you! Dame Ioreth 93 0 Jun 27, 3:25pm
           Collapse Great Mentors, Great Student :) grammaboodawg 36 1 Tue, 12:08pm
               Aw, thanks gramma! Dame Ioreth 27 0 Tue, 1:43pm
       Collapse My granddaughter has been sherlock 74 1 Sun, 1:20pm
           *sigh* I hear ya, sherlock! grammaboodawg 36 0 Tue, 12:12pm

Collapse ALL 50 States...Now IT's Legal!!! Bombadil 557 27 Jun 26, 3:00pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)
     Bomby is SURE, "Gandalf" & "The Master of Laketown" are Bombadil 461 0 Jun 26, 3:15pm
     Collapse Saw the news! Brethil 454 1 Jun 26, 3:42pm
           Yes Altaira 278 0 Jun 27, 10:28pm
       Congratulations to everyone Elarie 441 0 Jun 26, 4:14pm
       Remarkable Aragorn the Elfstone 433 0 Jun 26, 5:17pm
       My friend and her new wife Dame Ioreth 424 0 Jun 26, 5:32pm
       Collapse Love Wins Indeed!! The Grey Elf 404 1 Jun 26, 8:08pm
           Well said! :) // zarabia 335 0 Jun 27, 4:22am
       Collapse Well done.... Donry 395 1 Jun 26, 8:36pm
         THANK you ..Canada! Bombadil 367 0 Jun 26, 11:57pm
       Excellent news Kim 354 0 Jun 27, 1:26am
       Oh happy day! :-D xxx // Starling 324 0 Jun 27, 5:23am
       Collapse What a glorious decision... Arannir 322 3 Jun 27, 11:06am
         Collapse OLD Bomby would be the First to Admit it? Bombadil 311 2 Jun 27, 2:25pm
               Collapse In his day Bracegirdle 298 1 Jun 27, 3:51pm
                   Interestingly, all three terms were in use Spriggan 291 0 Jun 27, 4:39pm
     A glorious day, Bomby. :) // cats16 260 0 Jun 27, 10:57pm
       Collapse Finally!!! Roheryn 246 1 Sun, 11:25am
           SIR Ian McKellen & Derick Jacobi were... Bombadil 207 0 Mon, 1:36am
       Collapse Finally Me85 189 1 Mon, 6:03am
         HERE is a Link..Gandalf made a GREAT GRAND MARSHALL Bombadil 140 0 Mon, 8:15pm
       Collapse saw this on another forum Magradhaid 128 2 Tue, 4:48am
         Collapse Saw this TOO! LOVE it!/// Bombadil 77 1 Wed, 1:42am
             IF you EVER hear YOUR "Bomby" has died? Bombadil 48 0 Thu, 1:15am
       Well done U.S.A.! Ilmatar 47 0 Thu, 7:24am
       Collapse Yes Bombi silneldor 37 1 Thu, 3:54pm
           Wow. dernwyn 32 0 Thu, 4:18pm

  Collapse Anyone looking forward to the Ben Hur remake? boldog 200 7 Jun 26, 9:15am Jump to last post in thread (by Morthoron)
       Collapse This is one of those times... Morthoron 176 4 Jun 26, 1:19pm
           Ditto Morthoron Bracegirdle 146 0 Jun 26, 9:13pm
           This. So much. Aragorn the Elfstone 134 0 Jun 26, 10:29pm
           Collapse From what I've heard squire 124 1 Jun 27, 1:35am
               I have both... Morthoron 76 0 Jun 27, 2:51pm
       I agree with what everyone has posted Old Toby 117 0 Jun 27, 2:36am
       BTW, I trust that those of you with Blu-ray players... Aragorn the Elfstone 111 0 Jun 27, 2:59am

  Collapse Avengers star Patrick Macnee dies at his home in California aged 93 Eruonen 132 11 Jun 25, 7:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Brethil)
       R.I.P. Patrick Macnee Otaku-sempai 118 0 Jun 25, 7:33pm
       Collapse R.I.P. Steed.... Patty 96 7 Jun 26, 6:00am
           Collapse Back in the day Starling 90 6 Jun 26, 6:18am
               Collapse Mrs.Peel was awesome... Patty 88 5 Jun 26, 6:21am
                   Collapse Totally off topic but Starling 90 4 Jun 26, 6:44am
                       Collapse Love, love, love that show!! Patty 85 1 Jun 26, 6:48am
                           Pusscat! Starling 81 0 Jun 26, 6:51am
                       Collapse I remember that! Annael 63 1 Jun 26, 2:28pm
                           I hadn't seen David McCallum Starling 49 0 Jun 26, 7:45pm
       Even though he saw many winters... grammaboodawg 54 0 Jun 26, 4:53pm
       Another full life, it seems, like Sir Christopher Lee. Brethil 47 0 Jun 26, 7:48pm

  Collapse My thoughts on the Confederate flag Kilidoescartwheels 796 66 Jun 24, 2:28pm Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)
       Collapse FYI Aragorn the Elfstone 583 2 Jun 24, 4:09pm
           Collapse America is still a free country? Aragorn's Sexy Scar 560 1 Jun 24, 6:22pm
               Yes it is... Elizabeth 464 0 Jun 25, 7:55am
       Collapse this actually made me laugh Annael 548 2 Jun 24, 7:59pm
           Collapse so what WOULD be a symbol of being from the Old South? Annael 401 1 Jun 25, 4:00pm
               Well... Elizabeth 197 0 Jun 26, 7:47am
       Well... Otaku-sempai 533 0 Jun 24, 8:06pm
       We've been discussing this at home. Eowyn of Penns Woods 538 0 Jun 24, 8:28pm
       Collapse My feeling is... RosieLass 535 25 Jun 24, 9:56pm
           Collapse Pretty recent heritage, actually. Elizabeth 459 4 Jun 25, 8:04am
               Collapse I just learned that this week. entmaiden 423 2 Jun 25, 2:14pm
                   like "Fundamentalism" Annael 402 0 Jun 25, 3:56pm
                   Yes, as I said Kilidoescartwheels 367 0 Jun 25, 5:27pm
               That's fine. RosieLass 427 0 Jun 25, 2:14pm
           Collapse Symbols Elarie 416 6 Jun 25, 2:52pm
               Collapse That's an important point. Elizabeth 208 5 Jun 26, 7:38am
                   Collapse Not really. RosieLass 211 4 Jun 26, 7:20pm
                       What you say. Otaku-sempai 202 0 Jun 26, 7:37pm
                       Collapse Up to a point Elarie 176 2 Jun 26, 9:37pm
                           Collapse I do think Annael 155 1 Jun 27, 1:23am
                               Yes! Elarie 138 0 Jun 27, 2:21am
           Collapse On the other hand Otaku-sempai 408 12 Jun 25, 3:17pm
               Collapse Yes, that's fair. RosieLass 400 11 Jun 25, 4:17pm
                   Collapse To some extent. entmaiden 394 10 Jun 25, 4:25pm
                       Collapse Maybe not telling Kilidoescartwheels 368 1 Jun 25, 5:31pm
                           My cousin tells me about some of these things... Hobbity Hobbit 359 0 Jun 25, 5:53pm
                       Collapse The Federal governement *does* allow Altaira 344 7 Jun 25, 6:54pm
                           Collapse Yes. Otaku-sempai 292 1 Jun 25, 7:23pm
                               Totally agree Altaira 281 0 Jun 25, 8:03pm
                           Collapse The license plate issue entmaiden 275 4 Jun 25, 8:24pm
                               Collapse Interesting! Altaira 274 3 Jun 25, 8:49pm
                                   Collapse I agree! entmaiden 251 2 Jun 25, 10:40pm
                                       Collapse I read up on it a little Altaira 210 1 Jun 26, 5:05am
                                           Right - anyone can put entmaiden 160 0 Jun 26, 1:59pm
       Collapse I find the flag extremely offensive, and not just because it's the flag of losers zarabia 517 15 Jun 24, 11:06pm
           Collapse Actually, more recently than that. Elizabeth 463 1 Jun 25, 7:59am
               That's part of what I meant Kilidoescartwheels 256 0 Jun 25, 9:52pm
           Collapse Disagreed macfalk 304 12 Jun 25, 7:02pm
               Why? Kilidoescartwheels 285 0 Jun 25, 7:54pm
               And yet Ataahua 276 0 Jun 25, 8:18pm
               Collapse Here's my (narrow-minded?) outside perspective. DanielLB 179 9 Jun 26, 1:44pm
                   I rather agree with you here Daniel. Brethil 143 0 Jun 26, 3:01pm
                   Collapse Differences Otaku-sempai 141 1 Jun 26, 3:08pm
                       Thank you for clarification, Otaku-sempai and entmaiden. DanielLB 108 0 Jun 26, 6:20pm
                   Collapse I think the issue is narrower entmaiden 133 5 Jun 26, 5:01pm
                       Collapse good clarification Annael 127 1 Jun 26, 5:29pm
                           I agree Annael Brethil 104 0 Jun 26, 6:55pm
                       Collapse That too is a slippery slope for some though Dame Ioreth 120 2 Jun 26, 5:46pm
                           Collapse I think museums entmaiden 184 1 Jun 26, 9:02pm
                               I agree. Dame Ioreth 178 0 Jun 26, 9:12pm
       Collapse The confederate flag in Brazil Elarie 488 1 Jun 25, 12:42am
           The flag is on the ground being danced on. Moahunter 450 0 Jun 25, 9:28am
       On the plus side .... Spriggan 257 0 Jun 25, 10:30pm
       Collapse I would be interested in hearing Dame Ioreth 227 3 Jun 26, 4:19am
           Collapse Yeah... Eowyn of Penns Woods 211 2 Jun 26, 6:24am
               Collapse That's the thing though Dame Ioreth 187 1 Jun 26, 1:20pm
                   I might recommend... cats16 112 0 Jun 27, 10:55pm
       jack balbo biggins 203 0 Jun 26, 6:58pm
       Flags Ciars 213 0 Jun 26, 7:33pm
       Collapse Soul searching for clarity silneldor 99 2 Mon, 2:53am
         Lovely to see you, Sil. Brethil 86 0 Mon, 3:38am
           Lots to think about. And so good to see you here! Ethel Duath 52 0 Mon, 4:36pm
       Collapse Some clarification Altaira 89 3 Mon, 4:48am
           Collapse Well if you had, you'd have taken away my point Kilidoescartwheels 83 2 Mon, 5:19am
               that's how I took it Annael 62 0 Mon, 3:24pm
               Ditto Altaira 58 0 Mon, 4:58pm

  Collapse Poldark (= Aidan Turner), Anyone? The Grey Elf 253 8 Jun 24, 2:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elanor of Rohan)
       Yes to Aidan! Kilidoescartwheels 211 0 Jun 24, 3:41pm
       Collapse There was some discussion about it in the movie thread Starling 203 2 Jun 24, 6:19pm
           Thank you much, Birdie! The Grey Elf 179 0 Jun 24, 10:55pm
           Now, now... Patty 114 0 Jun 26, 6:28am
       Yes Elarie 172 0 Jun 25, 12:30am
       My first Poldark Old Toby 167 0 Jun 25, 2:54am
       I am watching sherlock 79 0 Sun, 1:26pm
       I have watched the whole series on BBC Elanor of Rohan 50 0 Mon, 2:42pm

  Collapse Top 10 Christopher Lee Performances Smaug the iron 74 2 Jun 24, 11:53am Jump to last post in thread (by Annael)
       Thanks for posting. Eruonen 59 0 Jun 24, 2:29pm
       No Rochefort? Annael 47 0 Jun 24, 8:13pm

  Bernard Hill seen in Wellington today (I'm pretty sure) Lissuin 79 0 Jun 24, 10:31am Jump to last post in thread (by Lissuin)

  Collapse It's the post-birthday reading thread! Lily Fairbairn 207 10 Jun 23, 3:01pm Jump to last post in thread (by dernwyn)
       Dragon Weather Meneldor 166 0 Jun 23, 5:59pm
       War Brides Annael 158 0 Jun 23, 7:09pm
       Emperor: The Death of Kings Elberbeth 134 0 Jun 24, 2:26pm
       Voyager Old Toby 120 0 Jun 25, 4:31am
       Collapse Dark Run by...um, some orc we all know... dernwyn 107 4 Jun 25, 4:36pm
           Collapse I finished Dark Run last weekend entmaiden 106 2 Jun 25, 4:42pm
               Collapse Where does one get this book? sherlock 63 1 Sun, 2:40pm
                   Amazon.com dernwyn 55 0 Sun, 6:17pm
           I finally got Dark Run yesterday. :D Ataahua 95 0 Jun 25, 7:26pm
       The Worlds of Fritz Leiber Meneldor 63 0 Sun, 1:48pm

  Collapse Well, "Hannibal" is cancelled Kilidoescartwheels 257 11 Jun 23, 2:11pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kim)
       Collapse Sad, because the show was very good.... Elutherian 219 1 Jun 23, 3:09pm
           Funny you should say that Kilidoescartwheels 143 0 Jun 24, 1:54pm
       Not over 'til it's over. Otaku-sempai 210 0 Jun 23, 4:18pm
       Mikkelsen can finally play Euron now! // macfalk 175 0 Jun 24, 1:25am
       Collapse And the Red Dragon says... dernwyn 173 2 Jun 24, 1:58am
           Collapse Well, technically he says Kim 165 1 Jun 24, 3:06am
               SDCC dernwyn 133 0 Jun 24, 4:22pm
       "Oh the irony" Kim 106 0 Jun 26, 5:07am
       Well, the one good thing about the Red Dragon story ShireHorse 43 0 Thu, 12:03am
       There may be hope for Hannibal fans yet. zarabia 37 0 Thu, 3:52am
       For any Hannibal fans in the LA area Kim 17 0 1:31am
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