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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Hobbit Movie board! Altaira 161465 0 May 24 2008, 1:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

  Sticky: How Best to Contact an Admin for Help Kyriel 117267 0 Mar 31 2009, 10:46pm Jump to last post in thread (by Kyriel)

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Collapse Sticky: Folks from the Uni of Waikato want to know YOUR opinion on BotFA! greendragon 4839 25 Jan 21, 4:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by elf-lady)

  Collapse Why Peter Jackson omitted Thorin's Funeral? DainPig 311 16 Mon, 11:07pm Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse a few reasons Mooseboy018 291 7 Mon, 11:27pm
           November... DainPig 285 0 Mon, 11:35pm
           Collapse I disagree Bishop 267 3 12:04am
               Richard said something along those lines Kilidoescartwheels 224 0 1:22am
               Collapse I agree. Mooseboy018 193 1 2:37am
                   Gotcha Bishop 188 0 2:39am
           Collapse Poor Fili Kilidoescartwheels 220 1 1:28am
               Fili Mooseboy018 187 0 2:40am
       Collapse I agree Glorfindela 263 4 12:10am
           Collapse Agree Arannir 79 3 8:04am
               Just NOW checked on Avatar's production... Bombadil 57 0 8:24am
               Collapse I still do love much of the film Glorfindela 25 1 35 mins ago
                   I agree. Arannir 11 0 18 mins ago
       Collapse You must remember that apart from RotK and AUJ, Warner Bros. put time limits on the films // Bofur01 117 2 6:52am
         Collapse Why NOT? Sit back & Relax!.. Fully aware...... Bombadil 105 1 7:43am
               OH? there.. is ONE more thing to Think about? Bombadil 81 0 8:04am

  Collapse Witch King at Dol Goldur - EE? Faramir74 309 6 Mon, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse I think Smaug the iron 289 4 Mon, 8:03pm
         Collapse WE did see him & Radagast took his Blade Bombadil 263 3 Mon, 8:28pm
               Collapse Good point Faramir74 240 2 Mon, 8:50pm
                   It's the same Blade that stabbed Frodo. Bombadil 210 0 Mon, 9:31pm
                   blade Mooseboy018 90 0 2:52am
       He's there DainPig 160 0 Mon, 10:57pm

  Collapse The three Smaug the iron 324 4 Mon, 2:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       Is there any reason to think they will be used? // dormouse 266 0 Mon, 3:42pm
       Collapse Not at all? Otaku-sempai 269 2 Mon, 3:44pm
           Philippa Boyens Smaug the iron 248 0 Mon, 4:05pm
           Although... Spriggan 188 0 Mon, 5:47pm

  Collapse More work needed by actors for BOFA EE? Jeffrodo 839 34 Mon, 11:10am Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse I wonder if... Legolas_Shoehorn 752 23 Mon, 12:21pm
           Collapse I doubt it Glorfindela 717 17 Mon, 1:10pm
               Collapse Oh yes! Goldeneye 631 9 Mon, 2:54pm
                 Collapse Gloomily Avandel 626 1 Mon, 3:02pm
                       haha Goldeneye 618 0 Mon, 3:04pm
                   Collapse There is no need for you to do it anyway... // dormouse 563 6 Mon, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Oh... Goldeneye 416 5 Mon, 5:28pm
                           Collapse You don't need to, you want to.... dormouse 379 4 Mon, 6:03pm
                               Collapse Well... Goldeneye 365 3 Mon, 6:15pm
                                   Collapse And I'd say that no one, but no one... dormouse 326 2 Mon, 6:44pm
                                       Collapse Again... Goldeneye 207 1 Mon, 7:07pm
                                           There is something intrinsic about the film makers version, particularly EE squiggle 133 0 Mon, 10:47pm
             Collapse *Sigh* - I wish PJ had read the critc who commented re the BOFA pace... Avandel 633 6 Mon, 2:55pm
                   Collapse Yes, to this, Avandel Glorfindela 612 5 Mon, 3:15pm
                       Collapse The horse Smaug the iron 598 4 Mon, 3:28pm
                           Collapse Er, not on my copy of the disk Glorfindela 503 3 Mon, 4:26pm
                               Collapse Well Smaug the iron 472 2 Mon, 4:35pm
                                   Collapse Still odd to me. Glorfindela 399 1 Mon, 5:42pm
                                       Gandalf dosen´t move Smaug the iron 370 0 Mon, 6:08pm
           It is the property of the studio(s) now....Warner, MGM, New LIne, WingNut, 3Foot 7 etc. Eruonen 696 0 Mon, 1:23pm
           Collapse Why would they want to? dormouse 566 3 Mon, 3:47pm
               Collapse "Couldn't be done" Arannir 37 2 8:18am
                   Collapse That wasn't a quotation, Arannir, and it wasn't meant to be... dormouse 22 1 44 mins ago
                       Nor did I think you quoted them. Arannir 10 0 20 mins ago
       Collapse It's an interesting idea, Jeffrodo.... dormouse 545 2 Mon, 3:59pm
           Collapse Agree, once again w/ dmouse... Bombadil 511 1 Mon, 4:24pm
               Also, how do we know John Howe Bombadil 483 0 Mon, 4:29pm
       Collapse PJ has always completed his films at the last minute Elanor of Rohan 517 6 Mon, 4:25pm
           Collapse "Fix" Mooseboy018 372 3 Mon, 6:11pm
               Collapse Just curious... lionoferebor 114 2 Mon, 11:42pm
                   Collapse PJ and Graham McTavish Mooseboy018 83 1 2:48am
                       Final product lionoferebor 65 0 4:53am
           You are not the only one... lionoferebor 116 0 Mon, 11:37pm
           Finish at the last minute Kilidoescartwheels 89 0 1:53am

  Collapse Gandalf's vision of Smaug through the Dol Guldur palantir? ThorinsNemesis 575 20 Sun, 7:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Arannir)
       Collapse Here's my theory of how that scene fitted in... AshNazg 536 4 Sun, 7:48pm
           Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 525 3 Sun, 7:58pm
               I'd love to see it! arithmancer 514 0 Sun, 8:02pm
               Collapse I really doubt we'll see it... AshNazg 515 1 Sun, 8:03pm
                   BOTFA EE ThorinsNemesis 500 0 Sun, 8:13pm
       Collapse It was scored for the DOS EE... // Bofur01 515 6 Sun, 7:59pm
           Collapse That scene might be connected with Sauron torturing Gandalf Milieuterrien 482 3 Sun, 8:39pm
               Collapse I actually didn't think about that... ThorinsNemesis 473 2 Sun, 8:47pm
                   Collapse If so, we could have a very different beginning to the EE movie Milieuterrien 459 1 Sun, 9:04pm
                       Indeed ThorinsNemesis 453 0 Sun, 9:10pm
           Collapse That's not strictly true... Shagrat 428 1 Sun, 9:51pm
               There's a look that Gandalf gives Pippin... AshNazg 421 0 Sun, 9:58pm
       Collapse It seems the Palantir was a casualty of the 3 movie split sycorax82 510 2 Sun, 8:09pm
         Collapse WOWie ! What an Amazing MOOT All of the Above are having Bombadil 348 1 Mon, 1:42am
               Palantir vision ThorinsNemesis 309 0 Mon, 4:05am
       Collapse Not a real palantir? Otaku-sempai 296 3 Mon, 5:08am
           Collapse Then ThorinsNemesis 291 2 Mon, 5:25am
               Collapse Perhaps you are right. Otaku-sempai 282 1 Mon, 5:41am
                   Palantir in Dol Guldur ThorinsNemesis 281 0 Mon, 5:52am
       The EE needs a lot of work to make BotFA a good movie. Arannir 15 0 8:11am

  Collapse The gems of Lasgalen and the necklace of Girion AshNazg 332 6 Sun, 5:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse If the plot line is included... Pandallo 262 5 Sun, 7:09pm
           Collapse Ah, good point. AshNazg 238 3 Sun, 7:40pm
               Collapse The gems/Thranduil's wife arithmancer 223 2 Sun, 8:00pm
                   Going back to my Girion Necklace AshNazg 221 0 Sun, 8:06pm
                   Thranduil is the more able to help Men Milieuterrien 199 0 Sun, 8:49pm
           Much left to speculation there. Milieuterrien 233 0 Sun, 7:51pm

  Collapse Beorn's references in DOS: Extended Edition? ThorinsNemesis 783 32 Sat, 11:51am Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Angmar's borders Otaku-sempai 733 16 Sat, 11:58am
           Collapse But... ThorinsNemesis 725 15 Sat, 12:06pm
               Collapse Angmar's borders (elaborated) Otaku-sempai 715 14 Sat, 12:18pm
                   Collapse Hmm... ThorinsNemesis 702 13 Sat, 12:34pm
                       Collapse Bilbo planting the acorn Otaku-sempai 673 12 Sat, 1:11pm
                           Collapse Thanks for the text info... ThorinsNemesis 665 11 Sat, 1:16pm
                               Collapse Raising the dead Otaku-sempai 657 10 Sat, 1:27pm
                                   Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 649 9 Sat, 1:40pm
                                       Collapse The Nazgul in Angmar Otaku-sempai 628 8 Sat, 2:11pm
                                           Collapse The Nazgul ThorinsNemesis 619 7 Sat, 2:28pm
                                             Collapse Excellent Analysis..SSOoo..could the WitchKing? Bombadil 581 5 Sat, 3:54pm
                                                 Palantir, the Witchking ThorinsNemesis 551 0 Sat, 4:40pm
                                                   Collapse The Witch-king was also imprisoned. Otaku-sempai 487 3 Sat, 6:59pm
                                                       Collapse Sauron and Angmar ThorinsNemesis 477 2 Sat, 7:08pm
                                                           Collapse Perhaps Otaku-sempai 470 1 Sat, 7:13pm
                                                               Yeah, most likely... ThorinsNemesis 466 0 Sat, 7:17pm
                                               Beorn Otaku-sempai 487 0 Sat, 6:56pm
       Different take on it.... dormouse 494 0 Sat, 6:45pm
       Collapse How Old is Beorn Supposed to Be? MyWeeLadGimli 385 7 Sat, 11:40pm
           Collapse Beorn's age Otaku-sempai 378 6 Sun, 12:16am
               Beorn ThorinsNemesis 316 0 Sun, 6:46am
               Collapse Geas and the Battle of the Five Armies? ThorinsNemesis 290 4 Sun, 8:19am
                   Collapse "...he is under no enchantment but his own." Otaku-sempai 250 3 Sun, 11:08am
                       Collapse Harmed someone who he cated about... ThorinsNemesis 216 2 Sun, 12:31pm
                           Collapse Maybe Otaku-sempai 153 1 Sun, 12:46pm
                               Well... ThorinsNemesis 151 0 Sun, 12:56pm
       Collapse This reference appears again and again... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 131 4 Sun, 4:12pm
           Collapse Sauron? ThorinsNemesis 114 2 Sun, 4:56pm
               Collapse I think you're assuming too much about the meaning of dormouse 91 1 Sun, 5:33pm
                   Well... ThorinsNemesis 87 0 Sun, 5:40pm
           "Not since a darker power ruled these lands." Otaku-sempai 50 0 Mon, 5:27am
       I think it's definitely Sauron Bishop 106 0 Sun, 5:02pm

  Collapse What if The Master of Laketown had taken Alfrid's role in BOFA? Goldeneye 816 61 Fri, 7:54pm Jump to last post in thread (by squiggle)
       No Glorfindela 698 0 Fri, 8:05pm
       Alfrid is probably worse than Jar Jar Binks Gandalf the Green 684 0 Fri, 8:39pm
       Collapse Well, it can't be much worse than the version we are given. DanielLB 657 18 Fri, 9:55pm
           Collapse Well said Daniel Michelle Johnston 373 17 Sat, 3:47pm
               Collapse All that would have been great Milieuterrien 354 16 Sat, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Then it's a shame... DanielLB 339 14 Sat, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nothing new here Milieuterrien 310 13 Sat, 6:35pm
                           Collapse You know... Otaku-sempai 289 10 Sat, 7:21pm
                               Collapse If so, why do children know so much about fairy tales, Milieuterrien 423 8 Sat, 7:37pm
                                   Collapse Blame Victoria Otaku-sempai 409 6 Sat, 7:46pm
                                       Collapse Blame victorian attitude ? Milieuterrien 354 5 Sat, 10:54pm
                                           Collapse That sounds like an ancient complaint. Otaku-sempai 344 4 Sun, 12:09am
                                               Collapse Your answer illustrates what I say Milieuterrien 317 2 Sun, 7:19am
                                                   Collapse The Scientific Method Otaku-sempai 272 1 Sun, 11:21am
                                                       Sure ! Milieuterrien 264 0 Sun, 11:26am
                                               Historical accuracy Glorfindela 299 0 Sun, 7:45am
                                   I think you misunderstand DanielB's use of 'shame'. Ataahua 377 0 Sat, 9:16pm
                               Indeed – that's so true Glorfindela 408 0 Sat, 7:46pm
                           Collapse LOL. There's no point preaching to me. DanielLB 404 1 Sat, 8:09pm
                               I don't see in the Battle of the Five Armies Milieuterrien 348 0 Sun, 12:04am
                   Disagree Goldeneye 242 0 Sun, 1:40pm
       Collapse Two things. And some more. Milieuterrien 653 1 Fri, 10:11pm
           MOST EXCELLENT post Bombadil 535 0 Sat, 5:09am
       Both characters... Avnar 589 0 Sat, 1:10am
       In order to provide more insight into Bard's character Loresilme 590 0 Sat, 1:29am
       Collapse I enjoy Alfrid squiggle 569 2 Sat, 3:15am
           huh? Goldeneye 556 0 Sat, 3:34am
           I can't tell if you love Alfrid or hate him Bishop 543 0 Sat, 4:13am
       Collapse I seem to be in the minority Turnip Head 543 3 Sat, 4:58am
         Collapse WE have been OVER this Before..In Fact another Bombadil 540 2 Sat, 5:06am
               Collapse Bomby, you know the rules. entmaiden 395 1 Sat, 3:19pm
                   Sorry. Bombadil 379 0 Sat, 3:39pm
       Collapse He couldn't have taken Alfrid's role dormouse 506 26 Sat, 7:38am
           Collapse Getting the Master out of the way meant having Bard in charge Milieuterrien 488 14 Sat, 8:24am
               Collapse These last posts by dmouse & Milie couldn't Bombadil 422 11 Sat, 2:24pm
                   Collapse Did Alfrid advance any plot though? Goldeneye 236 10 Sun, 1:52pm
                       Collapse Ah story telling pay off Michelle Johnston 169 9 Sun, 4:19pm
                           Collapse Yes.... dormouse 144 8 Sun, 5:45pm
                               Collapse Toned down, maybe but... Milieuterrien 126 7 Sun, 7:13pm
                                   Collapse Not for me. DanielLB 153 6 Mon, 9:09am
                                       Collapse Seconded Glorfindela 112 5 Mon, 1:11pm
                                           Collapse Same here.... dormouse 93 4 Mon, 3:41pm
                                               Collapse No more Alfrid please Elanor of Rohan 74 2 Mon, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Reconstruction? Otaku-sempai 59 1 Mon, 6:25pm
                                                       No, I don't Elanor of Rohan 52 0 Mon, 6:46pm
                                               Alrid has more potential for an Arc than the Master squiggle 18 0 5:50am
               Collapse Yes, I agree. Hobbity Hobbit 412 1 Sat, 2:30pm
                   Yes, PJ kept Bard's 'coming from nowhere' Milieuterrien 396 0 Sat, 3:03pm
           Collapse Use your imagination! Goldeneye 234 10 Sun, 2:05pm
               Collapse WHy... arithmancer 226 2 Sun, 2:17pm
                   Collapse Yes, and that's how Alfrid functions as a foil for Bard Milieuterrien 212 1 Sun, 2:38pm
                       re: Goldeneye 194 0 Sun, 2:59pm
               Collapse I am using my imagination.... dormouse 199 5 Sun, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Really though Goldeneye 102 1 Sun, 8:58pm
                       No, not incorrect at all... dormouse 213 0 Sun, 10:49pm
                   Collapse If the Master had survived... Otaku-sempai 176 2 Mon, 5:37am
                       Collapse Well yes, I think so.... dormouse 159 1 Mon, 7:23am
                           Master of The Lake Michelle Johnston 125 0 Mon, 12:22pm
               My imagination is just fine, I think. Spriggan 115 0 Sun, 8:01pm
       Who knows? The two characters would fulfil very different roles. Spriggan 277 0 Sun, 11:09am
       Bard didn't mind having authority over Alfrid in BoTF Armies, i think he enjoyed it squiggle 206 0 Sun, 11:21pm

  Collapse Lake-men and Bilbo planting the acorn in Dale? ThorinsNemesis 733 28 Fri, 1:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Planting the acorn! Loresilme 643 1 Fri, 1:35pm
           Acorn; and Lake-men ThorinsNemesis 634 0 Fri, 1:39pm
       Collapse It would be funny Milieuterrien 599 1 Fri, 2:42pm
           Yes, really funny ThorinsNemesis 571 0 Fri, 3:22pm
       Collapse Some discrepancies seem to be there Milieuterrien 550 12 Fri, 4:08pm
           Collapse I don't find Tolkien's interpretation realistic ThorinsNemesis 526 11 Fri, 4:38pm
               Collapse According to Bilbo Smaug the iron 511 8 Fri, 4:42pm
                   Collapse FOTR and the Hobbit ThorinsNemesis 503 7 Fri, 5:00pm
                       Collapse He maybe mean Smaug the iron 499 5 Fri, 5:13pm
                           Collapse Not sure in the movies, but possible ThorinsNemesis 486 4 Fri, 5:25pm
                               Dale was rebuilt first Smaug the iron 472 0 Fri, 5:34pm
                               Collapse Both were rebuilt, IMO. arithmancer 450 2 Fri, 5:58pm
                                   IMMIGRATION! YES.. Bombadil 437 0 Fri, 6:13pm
                                   They were both rebuilt in time, that's for sure ThorinsNemesis 428 0 Fri, 6:17pm
                       Bomby's Guess? Since Bard is the ONLY Heir of Girion.. Bombadil 489 0 Fri, 5:27pm
               Collapse I really don't know Milieuterrien 483 1 Fri, 5:29pm
                   Laketown and Dale ThorinsNemesis 461 0 Fri, 5:47pm
       Collapse It is very possible. Otaku-sempai 411 8 Fri, 6:57pm
           Collapse Dale and Laketown rebuilt ThorinsNemesis 397 7 Fri, 7:13pm
               Collapse Thanks. Otaku-sempai 387 6 Fri, 7:21pm
                   Collapse I read it somewhere... ThorinsNemesis 379 5 Fri, 7:25pm
                       No; Tolkien never indicated that. Otaku-sempai 354 0 Fri, 7:50pm
                       Collapse "..To Re-build Esgaroth 10 Times over!" Bombadil 354 3 Fri, 8:00pm
                           Collapse Um...Bomby? Otaku-sempai 121 2 Fri, 11:47pm
                               Collapse Wrong, NOT according to Karen's Atlas. Bombadil 104 1 Sat, 2:58am
                                   Bomby? They were BOTH Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 69 0 Sat, 11:43am
       Collapse But... CathrineB 294 1 Fri, 10:49pm
           Bilbo plants the acorn in Dale because... ThorinsNemesis 93 0 Sat, 5:27am

  Collapse The Peter Jackson Film School? Bumblingidiot 685 7 Fri, 11:14am Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       I know what this is Glorfindela 486 0 Fri, 8:09pm
       HAHAHA this is great stuff Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 337 0 Sat, 10:35am
       lol lonelymountainhermit 300 0 Sat, 2:02pm
       Fictional and offensive Milieuterrien 292 0 Sat, 2:44pm
       Excellent idea, Bumblingidiot... dormouse 232 0 Sat, 7:12pm
       Well... Elarie 98 0 Mon, 11:43am
       Entry requirements: Spriggan 65 0 Mon, 5:31pm

  Collapse DOS: Feast of Starlight ... A potential great scene Legolas_Shoehorn 808 8 May 27, 8:48pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       I also regret the absence of that scene Milieuterrien 739 0 May 27, 9:03pm
       Agree... that's for sure an head-scratcher // xxxyyy 720 0 May 27, 9:16pm
       Collapse I think there is no gonna be a debate in this :) Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 689 2 May 27, 9:54pm
         Collapse Maybe PJ will show Deleted Scenes in the EE Extras? Bombadil 627 1 May 28, 1:05am
               Let's Adrianna 619 0 May 28, 1:28am
       Collapse Nope, can't say I care about a Feast of Starlight scene. Noria 472 1 Thu, 12:18pm
         PJ did make a comment why they left it out.. Bombadil 381 0 Thu, 5:16pm
       Why not? DainPig 44 0 Mon, 10:46pm

  Collapse Funeral Smaug the iron 1129 48 May 27, 6:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       Collapse Bilbo & Gandalf for sure Kilidoescartwheels 984 3 May 27, 6:51pm
           Collapse *snigger* Avandel 923 1 May 27, 8:19pm
               The Funeral Roheryn1 505 0 Thu, 6:46pm
           Legolas Mooseboy018 792 0 May 28, 12:02am
       Collapse Tauriel Goldeneye 974 12 May 27, 6:59pm
         Collapse Yes Avandel 904 9 May 27, 8:47pm
               Collapse I can see it now... CathrineB 859 3 May 27, 9:52pm
                   Collapse There is one...maybe two Avandel 757 2 May 28, 1:57am
                       Tauriel Mooseboy018 744 0 May 28, 2:36am
                       Yeah but CathrineB 642 0 Thu, 10:08am
               Collapse Grumblings over ROTK lionoferebor 810 4 May 27, 11:37pm
                   Collapse I'm Negative Nancy now, but.. CathrineB 801 3 May 27, 11:56pm
                       Collapse I was somewhat Hopeful Holly... lionoferebor 457 2 Thu, 11:35pm
                           Collapse Pestimistic, really ? Milieuterrien 407 1 Fri, 9:17am
                               I like the word but my post has been edited by something else than me. Milieuterrien 367 0 Fri, 2:45pm
           Collapse Please no Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 856 1 May 27, 9:57pm
             Expect the Unexpected, that's Bomby's Mantra../// Bombadil 810 0 May 27, 11:08pm
       Mmm! Adrianna 779 0 May 28, 12:43am
       Many funerals to dispatch Milieuterrien 595 0 Thu, 12:39pm
       Collapse Well Shagrat 587 19 Thu, 1:51pm
           Collapse Image too big. Otaku-sempai 558 7 Thu, 2:18pm
               Collapse Resized. dernwyn 472 6 Thu, 4:09pm
                   Collapse Hmmm Avandel 306 5 Sat, 12:32am
                       Collapse And the party dernwyn 239 4 Sat, 1:29pm
                           *Grins* Avandel 182 0 Sat, 5:58pm
                           Collapse A River runs through it Kim 169 2 Sat, 6:12pm
                             Collapse There would have been fireworks, too... Avandel 125 1 Sat, 9:24pm
                                   Loving this scenario :D Ilmatar 70 0 Sun, 10:35pm
           Collapse Why would you expect Thranduil to be there with none of his people? dormouse 533 10 Thu, 3:05pm
               Collapse Well a few guards perhaps... Shagrat 520 7 Thu, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Well yes.... dormouse 500 6 Thu, 3:33pm
                       Collapse Well that's why I mentioned Thranduil Shagrat 490 5 Thu, 3:45pm
                           Collapse Fair enough.... dormouse 478 4 Thu, 4:03pm
                               Collapse That she has an expressed concern with them burying Kili Shagrat 475 3 Thu, 4:08pm
                                   Collapse Huh? arithmancer 540 2 Thu, 4:21pm
                                       Collapse Not if she is uncomfortable with the idea of the Dwarves burying Kili according to their custom Shagrat 534 1 Thu, 4:24pm
                                           If no Elves are there probably not. arithmancer 528 0 Thu, 4:27pm
               Collapse Because of the book? Otaku-sempai 543 1 Thu, 4:16pm
                   Sorry, what I meant was.... dormouse 541 0 Thu, 4:24pm
       Collapse No Elves, I would imagine Glorfindela 315 5 Fri, 11:28pm
           Collapse Digression: Elves at Helm's Deep Otaku-sempai 310 4 Fri, 11:53pm
               Collapse Sorry, but I disagree Glorfindela 281 3 Sat, 9:19am
                   Collapse Yeah me too CathrineB 270 2 Sat, 10:11am
                       A matter of convenience? Glorfindela 256 0 Sat, 10:48am
                       Maybe overanalyzing? Kilidoescartwheels 223 0 Sat, 1:47pm
       Collapse I wouldn't mind Tauriel attending and having a minimal role as part of Thranduil's guard MatthewJer18 180 1 Sat, 5:59pm
           Given the TE, I don't see Tauriel among Thranduils guards Milieuterrien 147 0 Sat, 7:08pm
       My opinion DainPig 26 0 Mon, 11:21pm

  Collapse We're forgetting an audience... Hobbity Hobbit 1614 88 May 26, 9:58pm Jump to last post in thread (by swordwhale)
       Collapse Count me as a ridiculous adult! Kilidoescartwheels 1330 1 May 26, 10:20pm
           PJ is a Father, Fran is a Mother & Philippa is TOO! Bombadil 1316 0 May 26, 10:27pm
       Collapse An inspiration for feminists. RosieLass 1329 7 May 26, 10:29pm
           Collapse Yes, she was an inspiration Elarie 1315 3 May 26, 11:04pm
               @ HobbitCon in Germany? Bombadil 1261 0 May 27, 12:29am
               Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 1209 0 May 27, 2:24am
               Certainly. RosieLass 355 0 May 27, 5:06pm
           Collapse Strange when you think it was predominantly written by two women // AshNazg 1237 2 May 27, 1:06am
               Collapse I don't think so.... Avandel 1217 1 May 27, 2:22am
                   Well.. Hobbity Hobbit 1203 0 May 27, 2:42am
       Collapse Oh please... Morthoron 1256 2 May 27, 1:00am
           Collapse Hey, Which movie did you see ? Milieuterrien 938 1 May 27, 3:08pm
             Even Leggy? couldn't "Handle". Bolg in Laketown? Bombadil 891 0 May 27, 3:59pm
       I wouldn't minded Tauriel so much ... MEM 1159 0 May 27, 5:03am
       Collapse On the broad point, I think it is a good one. Spriggan 1112 3 May 27, 8:13am
           Collapse ISN'T 700 YEARS, a mere 7 Blinks in eyes of an Elf? Bombadil 1064 2 May 27, 10:49am
               Elven Maturity Otaku-sempai 938 0 May 27, 2:47pm
               lol Loresilme 258 0 Fri, 2:05pm
       One problem CathrineB 1066 0 May 27, 10:54am
       Collapse Yes, I think you're right... dormouse 1051 42 May 27, 11:26am
           Collapse Oh, poor Tauriel! Kilidoescartwheels 966 7 May 27, 2:28pm
               Collapse Fili and Kili being woman would have been cool Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 364 3 May 27, 4:59pm
                   LOL! Kilidoescartwheels 347 0 May 27, 5:21pm
                   Collapse They Sort of Already Did AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 299 1 May 27, 7:27pm
                       Not really Otaku-sempai 267 0 May 27, 8:48pm
               Collapse Well, to get more specific.... Avandel 294 1 May 27, 7:29pm
                   I agree with this: Arveldis 131 0 Sun, 1:06am
               Not ridiculous at all... dormouse 226 0 May 27, 10:33pm
           Collapse It's not the fact that she fell in love that is the problem. RosieLass 360 33 May 27, 5:03pm
               Same goes to guys Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 353 0 May 27, 5:08pm
               Collapse You'd like the new "Mad Max" movie then Kilidoescartwheels 344 30 May 27, 5:22pm
                   I haven't seen it. RosieLass 315 0 May 27, 6:32pm
                   Collapse Mad Max's Furiosa had one VERY crucial advantage over The Hobbit's Tauriel! marary 250 28 May 27, 9:50pm
                       Modernity vs. Tolkiennernity marary 239 0 May 27, 10:22pm
                       Collapse The Hobbit and the Bechdel test Milieuterrien 211 26 May 27, 11:38pm
                           Collapse Mad Max v. Hobbit Kilidoescartwheels 197 25 May 28, 1:27am
                               Collapse In French, spiders are female, that's it. Milieuterrien 393 24 May 28, 8:04am
                                   Bwahahahahaha Kilidoescartwheels 360 0 Thu, 1:49pm
                                   Let's not be overly literal! Otaku-sempai 356 0 Thu, 2:24pm
                                   Collapse What? Glorfindela 344 21 Thu, 2:59pm
                                       Collapse Don't get fooled, it was just an attempt ... Milieuterrien 326 20 Thu, 3:49pm
                                           Collapse They say that English is the most difficult language to learn. RosieLass 325 19 Thu, 4:01pm
                                               Collapse As far as I'm concerned, Milieuterrien 320 5 Thu, 4:20pm
                                                   Collapse Haha! RosieLass 293 4 Thu, 5:10pm
                                                       Collapse Haha indeed Kilidoescartwheels 256 3 Thu, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse Back to the spot, Milieuterrien 233 2 Thu, 7:55pm
                                                               Collapse Oh, now you're REALLY asking for it! Kilidoescartwheels 227 1 Thu, 8:17pm
                                                                   Indeed… Glorfindela 196 0 Thu, 10:37pm
                                               Collapse The Slavonic languages are tricky Glorfindela 312 12 Thu, 4:23pm
                                                   Maybe because it's simple on crucial points Milieuterrien 303 0 Thu, 4:37pm
                                                   Collapse Money Avandel 305 10 Thu, 4:40pm
                                                       Collapse I think what makes English difficult RosieLass 300 8 Thu, 5:07pm
                                                           Collapse Spelling, also. arithmancer 286 1 Thu, 5:16pm
                                                               Indeed, no. 2 Glorfindela 194 0 Thu, 10:41pm
                                                           Collapse Because English formed as a combination of other languages. Silverlode 215 2 Thu, 9:46pm
                                                               Collapse Then there's this: Ataahua 188 1 Thu, 10:56pm
                                                                   Yes... Silverlode 165 0 Fri, 12:52am
                                                           Collapse This is so true… Glorfindela 201 2 Thu, 10:34pm
                                                               Collapse One of my favourites is ... DanielLB 138 1 Fri, 6:51am
                                                                   That's a good one Glorfindela 111 0 Fri, 8:52am
                                                     Bomby spends SOME Time on a Search Engine? Bombadil 161 0 Fri, 12:55am
               Well, yes.... dormouse 237 0 May 27, 10:17pm
       Collapse So Tauriel is there as some kind of social enginery? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 878 17 May 27, 4:19pm
           Collapse The main necessity is to have some elf character embodied on screen Milieuterrien 866 16 May 27, 4:31pm
               I understand that, but a single movie, with that ride you mention works. Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 852 0 May 27, 4:40pm
               Collapse Mostly true. Otaku-sempai 852 4 May 27, 4:45pm
                   Collapse Imagine they would had used the characters of the book to flesh out more story Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 363 3 May 27, 4:57pm
                       Agreed. Otaku-sempai 352 0 May 27, 5:08pm
                       Well they DID flesh out two of them Kilidoescartwheels 313 0 May 27, 6:41pm
                       Nice comments IMO and interesting Avandel 276 0 May 27, 8:02pm
               Collapse Social Engineering is a phrase with a specific meaning, Bumblingidiot 304 9 Fri, 10:24am
                   Collapse Propaganda is more specific than social engineering Milieuterrien 297 8 Fri, 10:51am
                       Collapse Yes, and in this context both are applicable - which is why I used both terms. Bumblingidiot 292 7 Fri, 12:05pm
                           The authors' stated reasons... arithmancer 290 0 Fri, 12:11pm
                           Collapse If your purpose is to say : Milieuterrien 268 5 Fri, 1:20pm
                               Collapse Aren´t we talking about Tauriel? elostirion74 226 4 Fri, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Why do pretend that Tauriel is there only for engineering and not for storytelling ? Milieuterrien 216 3 Fri, 6:50pm
                                       Collapse And the relevance of all these questions are? elostirion74 180 2 Fri, 11:52pm
                                           As I understood, Milieuterrien 178 0 Sat, 12:29am
                                           Tauriel stuff slotted in great, just a tad underdeveloped squiggle 105 0 Sun, 6:04am
       It's not about forgetting the audience. Bumblingidiot 870 0 May 27, 4:28pm
       Collapse I wonder which Tauriel's character trait ignites the fandom spark Milieuterrien 330 2 May 27, 6:16pm
         Collapse Some lines in the Movie say she was "Isolated"... Bombadil 321 1 May 27, 6:31pm
             OTHER.. WayCOOL Qualities Tauriel has? Bombadil 200 0 May 27, 11:44pm
       Collapse We are forgeting the teens have and NEED a sense of reality Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 157 1 May 28, 7:27am
           Kids do have a sense of reality Milieuterrien 156 0 May 28, 7:45am
       How? In what way? elostirion74 238 0 Fri, 5:43pm
       well said swordwhale 44 0 Mon, 5:07pm

  Collapse Five factors that hurt the Hobbit films Goldeneye 1721 72 May 26, 5:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Well... Thrain II 1465 1 May 26, 6:34pm
           Is that actually true? Otaku-sempai 1460 0 May 26, 6:41pm
       Collapse Oh, I love a good debate! Kilidoescartwheels 1457 7 May 26, 6:57pm
           Collapse Ditto, ditto, ditto Avandel 1353 6 May 26, 8:35pm
               Not sure I agree completely shadowdog 1289 0 May 26, 10:03pm
               Collapse Army of Elves Ilmatar 386 4 May 27, 8:18pm
                   Collapse They did have real elf armys Smaug the iron 374 3 May 27, 8:50pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the links Ilmatar 358 2 May 27, 9:17pm
                           The Awesome Elf Helmets hid Most Everything Bombadil 340 0 May 27, 11:06pm
                           Gotta put some screen caps up Avandel 255 0 Thu, 4:24pm
       Collapse Well...... dormouse 1400 4 May 26, 8:03pm
         Collapse LOL Dormouse - well said and thanks for this (: Avandel 1335 3 May 26, 9:01pm
               Bomby Agrees with Everyone here EXCEPT the OP.. Bombadil 1318 0 May 26, 9:34pm
               Collapse 'Buzz' Otaku-sempai 1226 1 May 26, 11:55pm
                   It's the way articles are written in the press Avandel 1200 0 May 27, 12:48am
       For Me AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1297 0 May 26, 10:02pm
       I'm not sure splitting into 3 was such a bad thing... AshNazg 1196 0 May 27, 1:12am
       Collapse Five factors that help and hinder The Hobbit trilogy. DanielLB 1108 43 May 27, 6:51am
           I agree with much of what you say, DanielB Glorfindela 1058 0 May 27, 8:00am
           Collapse Word!! Eleniel 980 36 May 27, 1:00pm
               Collapse So far as I can see no one is wading anywhere.... dormouse 961 34 May 27, 1:37pm
                   Collapse Will try to answer the CGI question Kilidoescartwheels 894 29 May 27, 2:51pm
                       I would wait to see the EE Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 499 0 May 27, 4:30pm
                       Collapse Thank you! dormouse 356 27 May 27, 10:55pm
                           Collapse The Elves over Dwarves scene Kilidoescartwheels 331 26 May 28, 1:04am
                               Collapse Yes.... dormouse 305 25 May 28, 7:00am
                                   Collapse I think it very much could have been done! Bishop 193 24 Fri, 5:36am
                                       Collapse The use of that Viggo quote... Bofur01 174 13 Fri, 8:05am
                                           Collapse Did he? Avandel 166 2 Fri, 8:39am
                                               Collapse I'm 98% sure, that it was said... Bofur01 504 1 Fri, 9:24am
                                                   Maybe he did say it to PJ, but why not saying it mainstream ? Milieuterrien 481 0 Fri, 11:30am
                                           Collapse I agree that it was unbecoming Bishop 463 9 Fri, 2:05pm
                                               Collapse Objective Gandalf the Green 445 1 Fri, 2:57pm
                                                   ... Bishop 435 0 Fri, 3:07pm
                                               Collapse Sorry, I couldn't find it. I'm hoping some others will remember though? // Bofur01 426 6 Fri, 3:10pm
                                                   Collapse No worries Bishop 426 5 Fri, 3:13pm
                                                       Collapse I guess that what VM said has something to do with what he feels Milieuterrien 424 4 Fri, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse There's no question Bishop 417 3 Fri, 3:34pm
                                                               Collapse And intelligent Avandel 411 2 Fri, 4:20pm
                                                                   Collapse great thoughts Bishop 388 1 Fri, 5:52pm
                                                                       Thank you! and nice! Avandel 343 0 Fri, 11:57pm
                                       Collapse But why... Avandel 168 8 Fri, 8:36am
                                           Collapse When he specifically stated... RosieLass 273 7 Sat, 4:20pm
                                               Collapse But - I really don't know what to think.... Avandel 255 6 Sat, 5:19pm
                                                   Collapse It may happen that VM could have been contacted, Milieuterrien 241 5 Sat, 7:18pm
                                                       Collapse the forbidden word.... Avandel 207 4 Sat, 9:39pm
                                                           Collapse Yes, Avandel Glorfindela 189 3 Sat, 11:05pm
                                                               Collapse Agree - LOL Avandel 133 2 Sun, 4:56pm
                                                                 You are more generous than me, Avandel Glorfindela 116 0 Sun, 5:12pm
                                                                   King Elessar the Storyteller Otaku-sempai 68 0 Mon, 5:49am
                                       yessiree lonelymountainhermit 215 0 Sat, 8:46pm
                   Collapse I beg to differ... Eleniel 879 3 May 27, 3:20pm
                       Collapse Fair enough, I'm sorry.... dormouse 467 2 May 27, 5:17pm
                           Collapse Thanks - and I'm not saying categorically there's anything wrong with it... Eleniel 445 1 May 27, 5:42pm
                               Well yes... dormouse 433 0 May 27, 6:17pm
               I think Bofur01 930 0 May 27, 1:48pm
           Collapse Allegedly Superfluous Characters Otaku-sempai 872 4 May 27, 3:22pm
               Collapse Superfluous in the sense ... DanielLB 510 3 May 27, 4:29pm
                   Collapse Well... Otaku-sempai 497 2 May 27, 4:36pm
                       Collapse Yes. Even a Talking Purse. / DanielLB 482 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                           I do like you, Daniel... Otaku-sempai 477 0 May 27, 4:48pm
       Responding to the thread in general, my own factors would be entirely different. Spriggan 922 0 May 27, 2:05pm
       Collapse The only factors that matter are... sycorax82 901 1 May 27, 2:27pm
           Studio issues Goldeneye 852 0 May 27, 3:29pm
       Collapse I’m a Hobbit movie lover so of course I disagree. Noria 848 4 May 27, 3:41pm
           Collapse When he said he wanted the hobbit first, in the times of LOTR or now? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 501 3 May 27, 4:26pm
               Collapse Before. Otaku-sempai 501 2 May 27, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Ok Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 488 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                       As Otaku-sempai said. Noria 404 0 May 27, 7:25pm
       I Think the Hobbit films have been immensely successful squiggle 421 0 May 27, 6:55pm
       Collapse for me.. Jettorex 420 1 Fri, 3:28pm
           It is entirely possible Bishop 380 0 Fri, 6:04pm

  Collapse A confirmation that trailer Sauron will be in Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1091 6 May 26, 5:30pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bofur01)
       Lets hope so! NoelGallagher 836 0 May 26, 9:41pm
       Collapse Much of this stuff could be wishful thinking.... sycorax82 583 4 May 27, 2:08pm
           Collapse There are strong evidences that at least those scenes where filmed for sure Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 526 3 May 27, 4:13pm
               Collapse The Palantir scene was cut from the DoS EE Bofur01 496 2 May 27, 5:33pm
                   Collapse How do you know Smaug the iron 484 1 May 27, 5:56pm
                       It'll be in the track "Thrain" on the BotFA soundtrack. Bofur01 421 0 May 27, 9:02pm
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