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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Sticky: Thread Locked Welcome to the Hobbit Movie board! Altaira 161443 0 May 24 2008, 1:58am Jump to last post in thread (by Altaira)

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Collapse Sticky: Folks from the Uni of Waikato want to know YOUR opinion on BotFA! greendragon 4831 25 Jan 21, 4:17pm Jump to last post in thread (by elf-lady)

  Collapse Why Peter Jackson omitted Thorin's Funeral? DainPig 151 9 Mon, 11:07pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse a few reasons Mooseboy018 136 7 Mon, 11:27pm
           November... DainPig 131 0 Mon, 11:35pm
           Collapse I disagree Bishop 112 3 12:04am
               Richard said something along those lines Kilidoescartwheels 69 0 1:22am
               Collapse I agree. Mooseboy018 39 1 2:37am
                   Gotcha Bishop 35 0 2:39am
           Collapse Poor Fili Kilidoescartwheels 66 1 1:28am
               Fili Mooseboy018 33 0 2:40am
       I agree Glorfindela 108 0 12:10am

  Collapse Witch King at Dol Goldur - EE? Faramir74 246 6 Mon, 7:50pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse I think Smaug the iron 228 4 Mon, 8:03pm
         Collapse WE did see him & Radagast took his Blade Bombadil 202 3 Mon, 8:28pm
               Collapse Good point Faramir74 179 2 Mon, 8:50pm
                   It's the same Blade that stabbed Frodo. Bombadil 148 0 Mon, 9:31pm
                   blade Mooseboy018 28 0 2:52am
       He's there DainPig 99 0 Mon, 10:57pm

  Collapse The three Smaug the iron 290 4 Mon, 2:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       Is there any reason to think they will be used? // dormouse 235 0 Mon, 3:42pm
       Collapse Not at all? Otaku-sempai 237 2 Mon, 3:44pm
           Philippa Boyens Smaug the iron 216 0 Mon, 4:05pm
           Although... Spriggan 156 0 Mon, 5:47pm

  Collapse More work needed by actors for BOFA EE? Jeffrodo 769 30 Mon, 11:10am Jump to last post in thread (by Mooseboy018)
       Collapse I wonder if... Legolas_Shoehorn 687 20 Mon, 12:21pm
           Collapse I doubt it Glorfindela 652 17 Mon, 1:10pm
               Collapse Oh yes! Goldeneye 566 9 Mon, 2:54pm
                 Collapse Gloomily Avandel 561 1 Mon, 3:02pm
                       haha Goldeneye 553 0 Mon, 3:04pm
                   Collapse There is no need for you to do it anyway... // dormouse 498 6 Mon, 3:48pm
                       Collapse Oh... Goldeneye 351 5 Mon, 5:28pm
                           Collapse You don't need to, you want to.... dormouse 314 4 Mon, 6:03pm
                               Collapse Well... Goldeneye 300 3 Mon, 6:15pm
                                   Collapse And I'd say that no one, but no one... dormouse 261 2 Mon, 6:44pm
                                       Collapse Again... Goldeneye 143 1 Mon, 7:07pm
                                           There is something intrinsic about the film makers version, particularly EE squiggle 69 0 Mon, 10:47pm
             Collapse *Sigh* - I wish PJ had read the critc who commented re the BOFA pace... Avandel 567 6 Mon, 2:55pm
                   Collapse Yes, to this, Avandel Glorfindela 547 5 Mon, 3:15pm
                       Collapse The horse Smaug the iron 533 4 Mon, 3:28pm
                           Collapse Er, not on my copy of the disk Glorfindela 438 3 Mon, 4:26pm
                               Collapse Well Smaug the iron 407 2 Mon, 4:35pm
                                   Collapse Still odd to me. Glorfindela 334 1 Mon, 5:42pm
                                       Gandalf dosen´t move Smaug the iron 305 0 Mon, 6:08pm
           It is the property of the studio(s) now....Warner, MGM, New LIne, WingNut, 3Foot 7 etc. Eruonen 631 0 Mon, 1:23pm
           Why would they want to? dormouse 501 0 Mon, 3:47pm
       Collapse It's an interesting idea, Jeffrodo.... dormouse 480 2 Mon, 3:59pm
           Collapse Agree, once again w/ dmouse... Bombadil 446 1 Mon, 4:24pm
               Also, how do we know John Howe Bombadil 418 0 Mon, 4:29pm
       Collapse PJ has always completed his films at the last minute Elanor of Rohan 451 5 Mon, 4:25pm
           Collapse "Fix" Mooseboy018 307 2 Mon, 6:11pm
               Collapse Just curious... lionoferebor 50 1 Mon, 11:42pm
                   PJ and Graham McTavish Mooseboy018 16 0 2:48am
           You are not the only one... lionoferebor 52 0 Mon, 11:37pm
           Finish at the last minute Kilidoescartwheels 25 0 1:53am

  Collapse Gandalf's vision of Smaug through the Dol Guldur palantir? ThorinsNemesis 546 19 Sun, 7:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by ThorinsNemesis)
       Collapse Here's my theory of how that scene fitted in... AshNazg 508 4 Sun, 7:48pm
           Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 497 3 Sun, 7:58pm
               I'd love to see it! arithmancer 487 0 Sun, 8:02pm
               Collapse I really doubt we'll see it... AshNazg 488 1 Sun, 8:03pm
                   BOTFA EE ThorinsNemesis 473 0 Sun, 8:13pm
       Collapse It was scored for the DOS EE... // Bofur01 488 6 Sun, 7:59pm
           Collapse That scene might be connected with Sauron torturing Gandalf Milieuterrien 455 3 Sun, 8:39pm
               Collapse I actually didn't think about that... ThorinsNemesis 446 2 Sun, 8:47pm
                   Collapse If so, we could have a very different beginning to the EE movie Milieuterrien 432 1 Sun, 9:04pm
                       Indeed ThorinsNemesis 426 0 Sun, 9:10pm
           Collapse That's not strictly true... Shagrat 401 1 Sun, 9:51pm
               There's a look that Gandalf gives Pippin... AshNazg 394 0 Sun, 9:58pm
       Collapse It seems the Palantir was a casualty of the 3 movie split sycorax82 482 2 Sun, 8:09pm
         Collapse WOWie ! What an Amazing MOOT All of the Above are having Bombadil 320 1 Mon, 1:42am
               Palantir vision ThorinsNemesis 281 0 Mon, 4:05am
       Collapse Not a real palantir? Otaku-sempai 269 3 Mon, 5:08am
           Collapse Then ThorinsNemesis 264 2 Mon, 5:25am
               Collapse Perhaps you are right. Otaku-sempai 255 1 Mon, 5:41am
                   Palantir in Dol Guldur ThorinsNemesis 254 0 Mon, 5:52am

  Collapse The gems of Lasgalen and the necklace of Girion AshNazg 326 6 Sun, 5:40pm Jump to last post in thread (by Milieuterrien)
       Collapse If the plot line is included... Pandallo 257 5 Sun, 7:09pm
           Collapse Ah, good point. AshNazg 233 3 Sun, 7:40pm
               Collapse The gems/Thranduil's wife arithmancer 218 2 Sun, 8:00pm
                   Going back to my Girion Necklace AshNazg 216 0 Sun, 8:06pm
                   Thranduil is the more able to help Men Milieuterrien 194 0 Sun, 8:49pm
           Much left to speculation there. Milieuterrien 228 0 Sun, 7:51pm

  Collapse Beorn's references in DOS: Extended Edition? ThorinsNemesis 773 32 Sat, 11:51am Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Angmar's borders Otaku-sempai 725 16 Sat, 11:58am
           Collapse But... ThorinsNemesis 717 15 Sat, 12:06pm
               Collapse Angmar's borders (elaborated) Otaku-sempai 707 14 Sat, 12:18pm
                   Collapse Hmm... ThorinsNemesis 694 13 Sat, 12:34pm
                       Collapse Bilbo planting the acorn Otaku-sempai 665 12 Sat, 1:11pm
                           Collapse Thanks for the text info... ThorinsNemesis 657 11 Sat, 1:16pm
                               Collapse Raising the dead Otaku-sempai 649 10 Sat, 1:27pm
                                   Collapse So... ThorinsNemesis 641 9 Sat, 1:40pm
                                       Collapse The Nazgul in Angmar Otaku-sempai 620 8 Sat, 2:11pm
                                           Collapse The Nazgul ThorinsNemesis 611 7 Sat, 2:28pm
                                             Collapse Excellent Analysis..SSOoo..could the WitchKing? Bombadil 573 5 Sat, 3:54pm
                                                 Palantir, the Witchking ThorinsNemesis 543 0 Sat, 4:40pm
                                                   Collapse The Witch-king was also imprisoned. Otaku-sempai 479 3 Sat, 6:59pm
                                                       Collapse Sauron and Angmar ThorinsNemesis 469 2 Sat, 7:08pm
                                                           Collapse Perhaps Otaku-sempai 462 1 Sat, 7:13pm
                                                               Yeah, most likely... ThorinsNemesis 458 0 Sat, 7:17pm
                                               Beorn Otaku-sempai 479 0 Sat, 6:56pm
       Different take on it.... dormouse 486 0 Sat, 6:45pm
       Collapse How Old is Beorn Supposed to Be? MyWeeLadGimli 377 7 Sat, 11:40pm
           Collapse Beorn's age Otaku-sempai 370 6 Sun, 12:16am
               Beorn ThorinsNemesis 308 0 Sun, 6:46am
               Collapse Geas and the Battle of the Five Armies? ThorinsNemesis 282 4 Sun, 8:19am
                   Collapse "...he is under no enchantment but his own." Otaku-sempai 242 3 Sun, 11:08am
                       Collapse Harmed someone who he cated about... ThorinsNemesis 208 2 Sun, 12:31pm
                           Collapse Maybe Otaku-sempai 151 1 Sun, 12:46pm
                               Well... ThorinsNemesis 149 0 Sun, 12:56pm
       Collapse This reference appears again and again... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 129 4 Sun, 4:12pm
           Collapse Sauron? ThorinsNemesis 112 2 Sun, 4:56pm
               Collapse I think you're assuming too much about the meaning of dormouse 89 1 Sun, 5:33pm
                   Well... ThorinsNemesis 85 0 Sun, 5:40pm
           "Not since a darker power ruled these lands." Otaku-sempai 48 0 Mon, 5:27am
       I think it's definitely Sauron Bishop 104 0 Sun, 5:02pm

  Collapse What if The Master of Laketown had taken Alfrid's role in BOFA? Goldeneye 811 60 Fri, 7:54pm Jump to last post in thread (by Elanor of Rohan)
       No Glorfindela 694 0 Fri, 8:05pm
       Alfrid is probably worse than Jar Jar Binks Gandalf the Green 680 0 Fri, 8:39pm
       Collapse Well, it can't be much worse than the version we are given. DanielLB 653 18 Fri, 9:55pm
           Collapse Well said Daniel Michelle Johnston 369 17 Sat, 3:47pm
               Collapse All that would have been great Milieuterrien 350 16 Sat, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Then it's a shame... DanielLB 335 14 Sat, 5:43pm
                       Collapse Nothing new here Milieuterrien 306 13 Sat, 6:35pm
                           Collapse You know... Otaku-sempai 285 10 Sat, 7:21pm
                               Collapse If so, why do children know so much about fairy tales, Milieuterrien 420 8 Sat, 7:37pm
                                   Collapse Blame Victoria Otaku-sempai 406 6 Sat, 7:46pm
                                       Collapse Blame victorian attitude ? Milieuterrien 351 5 Sat, 10:54pm
                                           Collapse That sounds like an ancient complaint. Otaku-sempai 337 4 Sun, 12:09am
                                               Collapse Your answer illustrates what I say Milieuterrien 311 2 Sun, 7:19am
                                                   Collapse The Scientific Method Otaku-sempai 266 1 Sun, 11:21am
                                                       Sure ! Milieuterrien 261 0 Sun, 11:26am
                                               Historical accuracy Glorfindela 293 0 Sun, 7:45am
                                   I think you misunderstand DanielB's use of 'shame'. Ataahua 371 0 Sat, 9:16pm
                               Indeed – that's so true Glorfindela 405 0 Sat, 7:46pm
                           Collapse LOL. There's no point preaching to me. DanielLB 398 1 Sat, 8:09pm
                               I don't see in the Battle of the Five Armies Milieuterrien 342 0 Sun, 12:04am
                   Disagree Goldeneye 239 0 Sun, 1:40pm
       Collapse Two things. And some more. Milieuterrien 649 1 Fri, 10:11pm
           MOST EXCELLENT post Bombadil 531 0 Sat, 5:09am
       Both characters... Avnar 585 0 Sat, 1:10am
       In order to provide more insight into Bard's character Loresilme 586 0 Sat, 1:29am
       Collapse I enjoy Alfrid squiggle 565 2 Sat, 3:15am
           huh? Goldeneye 552 0 Sat, 3:34am
           I can't tell if you love Alfrid or hate him Bishop 539 0 Sat, 4:13am
       Collapse I seem to be in the minority Turnip Head 539 3 Sat, 4:58am
         Collapse WE have been OVER this Before..In Fact another Bombadil 536 2 Sat, 5:06am
               Collapse Bomby, you know the rules. entmaiden 391 1 Sat, 3:19pm
                   Sorry. Bombadil 375 0 Sat, 3:39pm
       Collapse He couldn't have taken Alfrid's role dormouse 502 25 Sat, 7:38am
           Collapse Getting the Master out of the way meant having Bard in charge Milieuterrien 484 13 Sat, 8:24am
               Collapse These last posts by dmouse & Milie couldn't Bombadil 418 10 Sat, 2:24pm
                   Collapse Did Alfrid advance any plot though? Goldeneye 233 9 Sun, 1:52pm
                       Collapse Ah story telling pay off Michelle Johnston 166 8 Sun, 4:19pm
                           Collapse Yes.... dormouse 141 7 Sun, 5:45pm
                               Collapse Toned down, maybe but... Milieuterrien 123 6 Sun, 7:13pm
                                   Collapse Not for me. DanielLB 132 5 Mon, 9:09am
                                       Collapse Seconded Glorfindela 91 4 Mon, 1:11pm
                                           Collapse Same here.... dormouse 72 3 Mon, 3:41pm
                                               Collapse No more Alfrid please Elanor of Rohan 53 2 Mon, 4:27pm
                                                   Collapse Reconstruction? Otaku-sempai 38 1 Mon, 6:25pm
                                                       No, I don't Elanor of Rohan 31 0 Mon, 6:46pm
               Collapse Yes, I agree. Hobbity Hobbit 408 1 Sat, 2:30pm
                   Yes, PJ kept Bard's 'coming from nowhere' Milieuterrien 392 0 Sat, 3:03pm
           Collapse Use your imagination! Goldeneye 231 10 Sun, 2:05pm
               Collapse WHy... arithmancer 223 2 Sun, 2:17pm
                   Collapse Yes, and that's how Alfrid functions as a foil for Bard Milieuterrien 209 1 Sun, 2:38pm
                       re: Goldeneye 191 0 Sun, 2:59pm
               Collapse I am using my imagination.... dormouse 196 5 Sun, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Really though Goldeneye 99 1 Sun, 8:58pm
                       No, not incorrect at all... dormouse 192 0 Sun, 10:49pm
                   Collapse If the Master had survived... Otaku-sempai 155 2 Mon, 5:37am
                       Collapse Well yes, I think so.... dormouse 138 1 Mon, 7:23am
                           Master of The Lake Michelle Johnston 104 0 Mon, 12:22pm
               My imagination is just fine, I think. Spriggan 112 0 Sun, 8:01pm
       Who knows? The two characters would fulfil very different roles. Spriggan 274 0 Sun, 11:09am
       Bard didn't mind having authority over Alfrid in BoTF Armies, i think he enjoyed it squiggle 185 0 Sun, 11:21pm

  Collapse Lake-men and Bilbo planting the acorn in Dale? ThorinsNemesis 725 28 Fri, 1:19pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Planting the acorn! Loresilme 635 1 Fri, 1:35pm
           Acorn; and Lake-men ThorinsNemesis 626 0 Fri, 1:39pm
       Collapse It would be funny Milieuterrien 591 1 Fri, 2:42pm
           Yes, really funny ThorinsNemesis 564 0 Fri, 3:22pm
       Collapse Some discrepancies seem to be there Milieuterrien 542 12 Fri, 4:08pm
           Collapse I don't find Tolkien's interpretation realistic ThorinsNemesis 518 11 Fri, 4:38pm
               Collapse According to Bilbo Smaug the iron 503 8 Fri, 4:42pm
                   Collapse FOTR and the Hobbit ThorinsNemesis 496 7 Fri, 5:00pm
                       Collapse He maybe mean Smaug the iron 491 5 Fri, 5:13pm
                           Collapse Not sure in the movies, but possible ThorinsNemesis 479 4 Fri, 5:25pm
                               Dale was rebuilt first Smaug the iron 465 0 Fri, 5:34pm
                               Collapse Both were rebuilt, IMO. arithmancer 443 2 Fri, 5:58pm
                                   IMMIGRATION! YES.. Bombadil 430 0 Fri, 6:13pm
                                   They were both rebuilt in time, that's for sure ThorinsNemesis 421 0 Fri, 6:17pm
                       Bomby's Guess? Since Bard is the ONLY Heir of Girion.. Bombadil 482 0 Fri, 5:27pm
               Collapse I really don't know Milieuterrien 476 1 Fri, 5:29pm
                   Laketown and Dale ThorinsNemesis 454 0 Fri, 5:47pm
       Collapse It is very possible. Otaku-sempai 404 8 Fri, 6:57pm
           Collapse Dale and Laketown rebuilt ThorinsNemesis 390 7 Fri, 7:13pm
               Collapse Thanks. Otaku-sempai 380 6 Fri, 7:21pm
                   Collapse I read it somewhere... ThorinsNemesis 372 5 Fri, 7:25pm
                       No; Tolkien never indicated that. Otaku-sempai 347 0 Fri, 7:50pm
                       Collapse "..To Re-build Esgaroth 10 Times over!" Bombadil 347 3 Fri, 8:00pm
                           Collapse Um...Bomby? Otaku-sempai 120 2 Fri, 11:47pm
                               Collapse Wrong, NOT according to Karen's Atlas. Bombadil 103 1 Sat, 2:58am
                                   Bomby? They were BOTH Esgaroth Otaku-sempai 68 0 Sat, 11:43am
       Collapse But... CathrineB 286 1 Fri, 10:49pm
           Bilbo plants the acorn in Dale because... ThorinsNemesis 92 0 Sat, 5:27am

  Collapse The Peter Jackson Film School? Bumblingidiot 674 7 Fri, 11:14am Jump to last post in thread (by Spriggan)
       I know what this is Glorfindela 476 0 Fri, 8:09pm
       HAHAHA this is great stuff Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 327 0 Sat, 10:35am
       lol lonelymountainhermit 290 0 Sat, 2:02pm
       Fictional and offensive Milieuterrien 282 0 Sat, 2:44pm
       Excellent idea, Bumblingidiot... dormouse 222 0 Sat, 7:12pm
       Well... Elarie 88 0 Mon, 11:43am
       Entry requirements: Spriggan 55 0 Mon, 5:31pm

  Collapse DOS: Feast of Starlight ... A potential great scene Legolas_Shoehorn 795 8 May 27, 8:48pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       I also regret the absence of that scene Milieuterrien 728 0 May 27, 9:03pm
       Agree... that's for sure an head-scratcher // xxxyyy 709 0 May 27, 9:16pm
       Collapse I think there is no gonna be a debate in this :) Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 678 2 May 27, 9:54pm
         Collapse Maybe PJ will show Deleted Scenes in the EE Extras? Bombadil 616 1 May 28, 1:05am
               Let's Adrianna 608 0 May 28, 1:28am
       Collapse Nope, can't say I care about a Feast of Starlight scene. Noria 461 1 Thu, 12:18pm
         PJ did make a comment why they left it out.. Bombadil 369 0 Thu, 5:16pm
       Why not? DainPig 33 0 Mon, 10:46pm

  Collapse Funeral Smaug the iron 1125 48 May 27, 6:26pm Jump to last post in thread (by DainPig)
       Collapse Bilbo & Gandalf for sure Kilidoescartwheels 981 3 May 27, 6:51pm
           Collapse *snigger* Avandel 920 1 May 27, 8:19pm
               The Funeral Roheryn1 494 0 Thu, 6:46pm
           Legolas Mooseboy018 789 0 May 28, 12:02am
       Collapse Tauriel Goldeneye 971 12 May 27, 6:59pm
         Collapse Yes Avandel 901 9 May 27, 8:47pm
               Collapse I can see it now... CathrineB 856 3 May 27, 9:52pm
                   Collapse There is one...maybe two Avandel 754 2 May 28, 1:57am
                       Tauriel Mooseboy018 741 0 May 28, 2:36am
                       Yeah but CathrineB 639 0 Thu, 10:08am
               Collapse Grumblings over ROTK lionoferebor 807 4 May 27, 11:37pm
                   Collapse I'm Negative Nancy now, but.. CathrineB 798 3 May 27, 11:56pm
                       Collapse I was somewhat Hopeful Holly... lionoferebor 446 2 Thu, 11:35pm
                           Collapse Pestimistic, really ? Milieuterrien 396 1 Fri, 9:17am
                               I like the word but my post has been edited by something else than me. Milieuterrien 356 0 Fri, 2:45pm
           Collapse Please no Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf 853 1 May 27, 9:57pm
             Expect the Unexpected, that's Bomby's Mantra../// Bombadil 807 0 May 27, 11:08pm
       Mmm! Adrianna 776 0 May 28, 12:43am
       Many funerals to dispatch Milieuterrien 592 0 Thu, 12:39pm
       Collapse Well Shagrat 584 19 Thu, 1:51pm
           Collapse Image too big. Otaku-sempai 555 7 Thu, 2:18pm
               Collapse Resized. dernwyn 469 6 Thu, 4:09pm
                   Collapse Hmmm Avandel 295 5 Sat, 12:32am
                       Collapse And the party dernwyn 228 4 Sat, 1:29pm
                           *Grins* Avandel 171 0 Sat, 5:58pm
                           Collapse A River runs through it Kim 158 2 Sat, 6:12pm
                             Collapse There would have been fireworks, too... Avandel 114 1 Sat, 9:24pm
                                   Loving this scenario :D Ilmatar 59 0 Sun, 10:35pm
           Collapse Why would you expect Thranduil to be there with none of his people? dormouse 530 10 Thu, 3:05pm
               Collapse Well a few guards perhaps... Shagrat 517 7 Thu, 3:12pm
                   Collapse Well yes.... dormouse 497 6 Thu, 3:33pm
                       Collapse Well that's why I mentioned Thranduil Shagrat 487 5 Thu, 3:45pm
                           Collapse Fair enough.... dormouse 475 4 Thu, 4:03pm
                               Collapse That she has an expressed concern with them burying Kili Shagrat 472 3 Thu, 4:08pm
                                   Collapse Huh? arithmancer 530 2 Thu, 4:21pm
                                       Collapse Not if she is uncomfortable with the idea of the Dwarves burying Kili according to their custom Shagrat 524 1 Thu, 4:24pm
                                           If no Elves are there probably not. arithmancer 518 0 Thu, 4:27pm
               Collapse Because of the book? Otaku-sempai 533 1 Thu, 4:16pm
                   Sorry, what I meant was.... dormouse 531 0 Thu, 4:24pm
       Collapse No Elves, I would imagine Glorfindela 304 5 Fri, 11:28pm
           Collapse Digression: Elves at Helm's Deep Otaku-sempai 299 4 Fri, 11:53pm
               Collapse Sorry, but I disagree Glorfindela 270 3 Sat, 9:19am
                   Collapse Yeah me too CathrineB 259 2 Sat, 10:11am
                       A matter of convenience? Glorfindela 245 0 Sat, 10:48am
                       Maybe overanalyzing? Kilidoescartwheels 212 0 Sat, 1:47pm
       Collapse I wouldn't mind Tauriel attending and having a minimal role as part of Thranduil's guard MatthewJer18 169 1 Sat, 5:59pm
           Given the TE, I don't see Tauriel among Thranduils guards Milieuterrien 136 0 Sat, 7:08pm
       My opinion DainPig 15 0 Mon, 11:21pm

  Collapse We're forgetting an audience... Hobbity Hobbit 1607 88 May 26, 9:58pm Jump to last post in thread (by swordwhale)
       Collapse Count me as a ridiculous adult! Kilidoescartwheels 1324 1 May 26, 10:20pm
           PJ is a Father, Fran is a Mother & Philippa is TOO! Bombadil 1310 0 May 26, 10:27pm
       Collapse An inspiration for feminists. RosieLass 1323 7 May 26, 10:29pm
           Collapse Yes, she was an inspiration Elarie 1309 3 May 26, 11:04pm
               @ HobbitCon in Germany? Bombadil 1255 0 May 27, 12:29am
               Yeah, Hobbity Hobbit 1203 0 May 27, 2:24am
               Certainly. RosieLass 352 0 May 27, 5:06pm
           Collapse Strange when you think it was predominantly written by two women // AshNazg 1231 2 May 27, 1:06am
               Collapse I don't think so.... Avandel 1211 1 May 27, 2:22am
                   Well.. Hobbity Hobbit 1197 0 May 27, 2:42am
       Collapse Oh please... Morthoron 1250 2 May 27, 1:00am
           Collapse Hey, Which movie did you see ? Milieuterrien 932 1 May 27, 3:08pm
             Even Leggy? couldn't "Handle". Bolg in Laketown? Bombadil 885 0 May 27, 3:59pm
       I wouldn't minded Tauriel so much ... MEM 1153 0 May 27, 5:03am
       Collapse On the broad point, I think it is a good one. Spriggan 1106 3 May 27, 8:13am
           Collapse ISN'T 700 YEARS, a mere 7 Blinks in eyes of an Elf? Bombadil 1058 2 May 27, 10:49am
               Elven Maturity Otaku-sempai 932 0 May 27, 2:47pm
               lol Loresilme 255 0 Fri, 2:05pm
       One problem CathrineB 1060 0 May 27, 10:54am
       Collapse Yes, I think you're right... dormouse 1045 42 May 27, 11:26am
           Collapse Oh, poor Tauriel! Kilidoescartwheels 960 7 May 27, 2:28pm
               Collapse Fili and Kili being woman would have been cool Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 361 3 May 27, 4:59pm
                   LOL! Kilidoescartwheels 344 0 May 27, 5:21pm
                   Collapse They Sort of Already Did AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 296 1 May 27, 7:27pm
                       Not really Otaku-sempai 264 0 May 27, 8:48pm
               Collapse Well, to get more specific.... Avandel 291 1 May 27, 7:29pm
                   I agree with this: Arveldis 128 0 Sun, 1:06am
               Not ridiculous at all... dormouse 223 0 May 27, 10:33pm
           Collapse It's not the fact that she fell in love that is the problem. RosieLass 357 33 May 27, 5:03pm
               Same goes to guys Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 350 0 May 27, 5:08pm
               Collapse You'd like the new "Mad Max" movie then Kilidoescartwheels 341 30 May 27, 5:22pm
                   I haven't seen it. RosieLass 312 0 May 27, 6:32pm
                   Collapse Mad Max's Furiosa had one VERY crucial advantage over The Hobbit's Tauriel! marary 247 28 May 27, 9:50pm
                       Modernity vs. Tolkiennernity marary 236 0 May 27, 10:22pm
                       Collapse The Hobbit and the Bechdel test Milieuterrien 208 26 May 27, 11:38pm
                           Collapse Mad Max v. Hobbit Kilidoescartwheels 194 25 May 28, 1:27am
                               Collapse In French, spiders are female, that's it. Milieuterrien 392 24 Thu, 8:04am
                                   Bwahahahahaha Kilidoescartwheels 359 0 Thu, 1:49pm
                                   Let's not be overly literal! Otaku-sempai 355 0 Thu, 2:24pm
                                   Collapse What? Glorfindela 343 21 Thu, 2:59pm
                                       Collapse Don't get fooled, it was just an attempt ... Milieuterrien 325 20 Thu, 3:49pm
                                           Collapse They say that English is the most difficult language to learn. RosieLass 324 19 Thu, 4:01pm
                                               Collapse As far as I'm concerned, Milieuterrien 319 5 Thu, 4:20pm
                                                   Collapse Haha! RosieLass 292 4 Thu, 5:10pm
                                                       Collapse Haha indeed Kilidoescartwheels 255 3 Thu, 6:45pm
                                                           Collapse Back to the spot, Milieuterrien 232 2 Thu, 7:55pm
                                                               Collapse Oh, now you're REALLY asking for it! Kilidoescartwheels 226 1 Thu, 8:17pm
                                                                   Indeed… Glorfindela 195 0 Thu, 10:37pm
                                               Collapse The Slavonic languages are tricky Glorfindela 311 12 Thu, 4:23pm
                                                   Maybe because it's simple on crucial points Milieuterrien 302 0 Thu, 4:37pm
                                                   Collapse Money Avandel 304 10 Thu, 4:40pm
                                                       Collapse I think what makes English difficult RosieLass 299 8 Thu, 5:07pm
                                                           Collapse Spelling, also. arithmancer 285 1 Thu, 5:16pm
                                                               Indeed, no. 2 Glorfindela 193 0 Thu, 10:41pm
                                                           Collapse Because English formed as a combination of other languages. Silverlode 214 2 Thu, 9:46pm
                                                               Collapse Then there's this: Ataahua 187 1 Thu, 10:56pm
                                                                   Yes... Silverlode 164 0 Fri, 12:52am
                                                           Collapse This is so true… Glorfindela 200 2 Thu, 10:34pm
                                                               Collapse One of my favourites is ... DanielLB 137 1 Fri, 6:51am
                                                                   That's a good one Glorfindela 110 0 Fri, 8:52am
                                                     Bomby spends SOME Time on a Search Engine? Bombadil 160 0 Fri, 12:55am
               Well, yes.... dormouse 234 0 May 27, 10:17pm
       Collapse So Tauriel is there as some kind of social enginery? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 872 17 May 27, 4:19pm
           Collapse The main necessity is to have some elf character embodied on screen Milieuterrien 860 16 May 27, 4:31pm
               I understand that, but a single movie, with that ride you mention works. Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 846 0 May 27, 4:40pm
               Collapse Mostly true. Otaku-sempai 846 4 May 27, 4:45pm
                   Collapse Imagine they would had used the characters of the book to flesh out more story Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 360 3 May 27, 4:57pm
                       Agreed. Otaku-sempai 349 0 May 27, 5:08pm
                       Well they DID flesh out two of them Kilidoescartwheels 310 0 May 27, 6:41pm
                       Nice comments IMO and interesting Avandel 273 0 May 27, 8:02pm
               Collapse Social Engineering is a phrase with a specific meaning, Bumblingidiot 301 9 Fri, 10:24am
                   Collapse Propaganda is more specific than social engineering Milieuterrien 294 8 Fri, 10:51am
                       Collapse Yes, and in this context both are applicable - which is why I used both terms. Bumblingidiot 289 7 Fri, 12:05pm
                           The authors' stated reasons... arithmancer 287 0 Fri, 12:11pm
                           Collapse If your purpose is to say : Milieuterrien 265 5 Fri, 1:20pm
                               Collapse Aren´t we talking about Tauriel? elostirion74 223 4 Fri, 6:08pm
                                   Collapse Why do pretend that Tauriel is there only for engineering and not for storytelling ? Milieuterrien 213 3 Fri, 6:50pm
                                       Collapse And the relevance of all these questions are? elostirion74 177 2 Fri, 11:52pm
                                           As I understood, Milieuterrien 175 0 Sat, 12:29am
                                           Tauriel stuff slotted in great, just a tad underdeveloped squiggle 102 0 Sun, 6:04am
       It's not about forgetting the audience. Bumblingidiot 864 0 May 27, 4:28pm
       Collapse I wonder which Tauriel's character trait ignites the fandom spark Milieuterrien 327 2 May 27, 6:16pm
         Collapse Some lines in the Movie say she was "Isolated"... Bombadil 318 1 May 27, 6:31pm
             OTHER.. WayCOOL Qualities Tauriel has? Bombadil 197 0 May 27, 11:44pm
       Collapse We are forgeting the teens have and NEED a sense of reality Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 154 1 Thu, 7:27am
           Kids do have a sense of reality Milieuterrien 153 0 Thu, 7:45am
       How? In what way? elostirion74 235 0 Fri, 5:43pm
       well said swordwhale 41 0 Mon, 5:07pm

  Collapse Five factors that hurt the Hobbit films Goldeneye 1710 72 May 26, 5:53pm Jump to last post in thread (by Otaku-sempai)
       Collapse Well... Thrain II 1455 1 May 26, 6:34pm
           Is that actually true? Otaku-sempai 1450 0 May 26, 6:41pm
       Collapse Oh, I love a good debate! Kilidoescartwheels 1447 7 May 26, 6:57pm
           Collapse Ditto, ditto, ditto Avandel 1343 6 May 26, 8:35pm
               Not sure I agree completely shadowdog 1279 0 May 26, 10:03pm
               Collapse Army of Elves Ilmatar 381 4 May 27, 8:18pm
                   Collapse They did have real elf armys Smaug the iron 369 3 May 27, 8:50pm
                       Collapse Thanks for the links Ilmatar 353 2 May 27, 9:17pm
                           The Awesome Elf Helmets hid Most Everything Bombadil 335 0 May 27, 11:06pm
                           Gotta put some screen caps up Avandel 250 0 Thu, 4:24pm
       Collapse Well...... dormouse 1390 4 May 26, 8:03pm
         Collapse LOL Dormouse - well said and thanks for this (: Avandel 1325 3 May 26, 9:01pm
               Bomby Agrees with Everyone here EXCEPT the OP.. Bombadil 1308 0 May 26, 9:34pm
               Collapse 'Buzz' Otaku-sempai 1216 1 May 26, 11:55pm
                   It's the way articles are written in the press Avandel 1190 0 May 27, 12:48am
       For Me AndHeHandedHimTheTobaccoJar 1287 0 May 26, 10:02pm
       I'm not sure splitting into 3 was such a bad thing... AshNazg 1186 0 May 27, 1:12am
       Collapse Five factors that help and hinder The Hobbit trilogy. DanielLB 1098 43 May 27, 6:51am
           I agree with much of what you say, DanielB Glorfindela 1048 0 May 27, 8:00am
           Collapse Word!! Eleniel 970 36 May 27, 1:00pm
               Collapse So far as I can see no one is wading anywhere.... dormouse 951 34 May 27, 1:37pm
                   Collapse Will try to answer the CGI question Kilidoescartwheels 884 29 May 27, 2:51pm
                       I would wait to see the EE Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 494 0 May 27, 4:30pm
                       Collapse Thank you! dormouse 351 27 May 27, 10:55pm
                           Collapse The Elves over Dwarves scene Kilidoescartwheels 326 26 May 28, 1:04am
                               Collapse Yes.... dormouse 300 25 Thu, 7:00am
                                   Collapse I think it very much could have been done! Bishop 188 24 Fri, 5:36am
                                       Collapse The use of that Viggo quote... Bofur01 169 13 Fri, 8:05am
                                           Collapse Did he? Avandel 161 2 Fri, 8:39am
                                               Collapse I'm 98% sure, that it was said... Bofur01 493 1 Fri, 9:24am
                                                   Maybe he did say it to PJ, but why not saying it mainstream ? Milieuterrien 470 0 Fri, 11:30am
                                           Collapse I agree that it was unbecoming Bishop 452 9 Fri, 2:05pm
                                               Collapse Objective Gandalf the Green 434 1 Fri, 2:57pm
                                                   ... Bishop 424 0 Fri, 3:07pm
                                               Collapse Sorry, I couldn't find it. I'm hoping some others will remember though? // Bofur01 415 6 Fri, 3:10pm
                                                   Collapse No worries Bishop 415 5 Fri, 3:13pm
                                                       Collapse I guess that what VM said has something to do with what he feels Milieuterrien 413 4 Fri, 3:24pm
                                                           Collapse There's no question Bishop 406 3 Fri, 3:34pm
                                                               Collapse And intelligent Avandel 400 2 Fri, 4:20pm
                                                                   Collapse great thoughts Bishop 377 1 Fri, 5:52pm
                                                                       Thank you! and nice! Avandel 332 0 Fri, 11:57pm
                                       Collapse But why... Avandel 163 8 Fri, 8:36am
                                           Collapse When he specifically stated... RosieLass 262 7 Sat, 4:20pm
                                               Collapse But - I really don't know what to think.... Avandel 244 6 Sat, 5:19pm
                                                   Collapse It may happen that VM could have been contacted, Milieuterrien 230 5 Sat, 7:18pm
                                                       Collapse the forbidden word.... Avandel 196 4 Sat, 9:39pm
                                                           Collapse Yes, Avandel Glorfindela 178 3 Sat, 11:05pm
                                                               Collapse Agree - LOL Avandel 122 2 Sun, 4:56pm
                                                                 You are more generous than me, Avandel Glorfindela 105 0 Sun, 5:12pm
                                                                   King Elessar the Storyteller Otaku-sempai 57 0 Mon, 5:49am
                                       yessiree lonelymountainhermit 204 0 Sat, 8:46pm
                   Collapse I beg to differ... Eleniel 869 3 May 27, 3:20pm
                       Collapse Fair enough, I'm sorry.... dormouse 462 2 May 27, 5:17pm
                           Collapse Thanks - and I'm not saying categorically there's anything wrong with it... Eleniel 440 1 May 27, 5:42pm
                               Well yes... dormouse 428 0 May 27, 6:17pm
               I think Bofur01 920 0 May 27, 1:48pm
           Collapse Allegedly Superfluous Characters Otaku-sempai 862 4 May 27, 3:22pm
               Collapse Superfluous in the sense ... DanielLB 505 3 May 27, 4:29pm
                   Collapse Well... Otaku-sempai 492 2 May 27, 4:36pm
                       Collapse Yes. Even a Talking Purse. / DanielLB 477 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                           I do like you, Daniel... Otaku-sempai 472 0 May 27, 4:48pm
       Responding to the thread in general, my own factors would be entirely different. Spriggan 912 0 May 27, 2:05pm
       Collapse The only factors that matter are... sycorax82 891 1 May 27, 2:27pm
           Studio issues Goldeneye 842 0 May 27, 3:29pm
       Collapse I’m a Hobbit movie lover so of course I disagree. Noria 838 4 May 27, 3:41pm
           Collapse When he said he wanted the hobbit first, in the times of LOTR or now? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 496 3 May 27, 4:26pm
               Collapse Before. Otaku-sempai 496 2 May 27, 4:31pm
                   Collapse Ok Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 483 1 May 27, 4:41pm
                       As Otaku-sempai said. Noria 399 0 May 27, 7:25pm
       I Think the Hobbit films have been immensely successful squiggle 415 0 May 27, 6:55pm
       Collapse for me.. Jettorex 409 1 Fri, 3:28pm
           It is entirely possible Bishop 369 0 Fri, 6:04pm

  Collapse A confirmation that trailer Sauron will be in Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 1086 6 May 26, 5:30pm Jump to last post in thread (by Bofur01)
       Lets hope so! NoelGallagher 831 0 May 26, 9:41pm
       Collapse Much of this stuff could be wishful thinking.... sycorax82 578 4 May 27, 2:08pm
           Collapse There are strong evidences that at least those scenes where filmed for sure Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 521 3 May 27, 4:13pm
               Collapse The Palantir scene was cut from the DoS EE Bofur01 491 2 May 27, 5:33pm
                   Collapse How do you know Smaug the iron 479 1 May 27, 5:56pm
                       It'll be in the track "Thrain" on the BotFA soundtrack. Bofur01 416 0 May 27, 9:02pm
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