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Collapse COULD WE MAKE A SINGLE FORUM FOR THE SIXOLOGY? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 30 1 22 mins ago Jump to last post in thread (by Danielos)
       Sixology? Danielos 11 0 11 mins ago

  Collapse PJ's Cameo... patrickk 719 5 Fri, 11:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Arthael)
       so not khamul then? erdildeniz 375 0 Fri, 11:51pm
       Collapse I still haven't caught it! tarasaurus 207 2 3:07am
           Collapse Isn't Katie one of the first Laketowners you see on screen? Earl 139 1 5:30am
               Yup. Roheryn 133 0 5:50am
       Lake town man Arthael 50 0 10:30am

  Collapse At last BOFA has reached us here in Australia.. patrickk 502 10 Fri, 11:02pm Jump to last post in thread (by patrickk)
       Collapse Glad it finally arrived for you. Eruonen 245 1 Fri, 11:08pm
           Personally Glorfindela 227 0 Fri, 11:28pm
       Collapse Pity that Glorfindel's place was taken by Arwen Elanor of Rohan 212 4 Fri, 11:51pm
           Collapse It just for me... patrickk 171 3 12:32am
               Collapse No no no no no no no *terrified face* Mooseboy018 116 2 4:34am
                   replacing arwen? Me85 81 0 5:49am
                   Well this has certainly stirred up a hornet's nest... patrickk 36 0 9:35am
       Glad you got to see it Ham_Sammy 173 0 12:16am
       Collapse Here's a nice article from The Australian Kim 197 1 12:22am
           Ditto!! Old Toby 79 0 6:48am

  Collapse Rating the LotR and Hobbit films out of 10. Bofur01 686 35 Fri, 9:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Mr. Arkenstone (isaac))
       Here are my ratings... ecthelionsbeard 416 0 Fri, 9:54pm
       My rankings DigificWriter 394 0 Fri, 9:57pm
       my rankings FrogmortonJustice65 371 0 Fri, 10:03pm
       6 haarp 338 0 Fri, 10:24pm
       Collapse mine Crunchable Birdses 325 7 Fri, 10:33pm
           Collapse There was no "studio-demanded 3-film split" DigificWriter 263 6 Fri, 11:29pm
               Collapse It was a bad idea regardless of who thought of it... Elizabeth 134 2 3:09am
                   Collapse ....especially given the timing of the decision. Eurolock 85 1 4:30am
                       That doesnt seem to mesh with what we've heard moreorless 51 0 8:43am
               Collapse I think the reality is... Osskil 67 2 6:59am
                   Collapse Watch the Appendices for the Extended Editions DigificWriter 55 1 7:10am
                       My guess is that it wasnt just the amount of material moreorless 19 0 50 mins ago
       I have have given them in order... patrickk 289 0 Fri, 11:06pm
       Rankings Ham_Sammy 274 0 Fri, 11:11pm
       Mine... Joe20 251 0 Fri, 11:15pm
       Here goes BlackFox 254 0 Fri, 11:17pm
       mine MedwedtoBeorn 227 0 Fri, 11:34pm
       Mine: Glorfindela 232 0 Fri, 11:35pm
       Rating, perhaps a little arbitrary, but fun! Foromir 207 0 12:23am
       DoS rating low CuriousG 220 0 12:24am
       Hmmm, in the category of fantasy films Spriggan 203 0 12:29am
       Mine m.summers343 187 0 1:00am
       Collapse all EE of course (except BOTFA I'm predicting) Nira 175 1 2:11am
           On that basis: Elizabeth 127 0 3:07am
       Ok I'll bite demnation 152 0 2:11am
       Mah ratings MechaGodzilla 144 0 2:29am
     MINE!!! MJM 132 0 2:50am
       My ranking... Eurolock 128 0 2:57am
       Collapse All Extended Editions Istaris'staffs 124 1 3:33am
           my fav and my worst mo0on-light 80 0 6:06am
       Ratings Osskil 69 0 6:51am
       Mine: NecromancerRising 67 0 6:57am
       Ratings imin 49 0 8:55am
       Everyone holds the Hobbit in much higher regard than me! Arthael 33 0 59 mins ago
       Mine Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 9 0 21 mins ago

  Collapse The theatrical version is not clear on how the masses of orcs Eruonen 732 13 Fri, 9:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur)
       I am assuming the loss of their leadership signaling station Eruonen 369 0 Fri, 9:28pm
       Collapse The way the battle was portrayed is one of the problems I have with the end of BOTFA. Holly Hobbit 386 1 Fri, 9:43pm
           "Ravenhill had been inspired by Frozen." Funny! Eruonen 314 0 Fri, 9:46pm
       I agree Ham_Sammy 281 0 Fri, 10:05pm
       I actually thought the ambiguity worked out very well. Spriggan 288 0 Fri, 10:10pm
       Collapse And the Fellowship was vastly outnumbered... Darkstone 294 5 Fri, 10:22pm
           Collapse amon Hen Ham_Sammy 258 2 Fri, 10:36pm
               Collapse Yep Darkstone 226 1 Fri, 10:52pm
                   Not really a fair comparison... Eurolock 106 0 4:43am
           Collapse Aragorn arrived with more than that... Eruonen 242 1 Fri, 10:52pm
               Maybe there will be a... MasterOrc 142 0 2:30am
       I thought... dubulous 32 0 57 mins ago
       It was the same in AUJ Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 17 0 36 mins ago

  Collapse Another versus thread maybe? Boromir2k 312 6 Fri, 7:36pm Jump to last post in thread (by Darkstone)
       Collapse Working as intended. Darkstone 192 3 Fri, 7:57pm
           Collapse I find the different aesthetics to be at conflict Bishop 142 1 Fri, 9:36pm
               For example.... Darkstone 105 0 Fri, 10:49pm
           wise words from a wise man. mirkwoodwanderer 72 0 12:01am
       Collapse Battle scenes CuriousG 75 1 12:31am
           LOTR scenes.... Darkstone 47 0 4:19am

  Collapse Happy Christmas! (box office related) Estel78 669 9 Fri, 3:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Estel78)
       That's great! Ham_Sammy 308 0 Fri, 3:55pm
       Collapse who are you and what have you done with Estel? Voronwė_the_Faithful 321 2 Fri, 4:09pm
           Collapse I just post how i see it, no sugarcoating. ;) Estel78 230 1 Fri, 5:26pm
               Sugarcoating is entirely different NecromancerRising 220 0 Fri, 5:35pm
       Very nice numbers indeed! NecromancerRising 286 0 Fri, 4:12pm
       In NL mirkwoodwanderer 297 0 Fri, 4:12pm
       I will be doing my best Tintallė 272 0 Fri, 4:39pm
       Deadline Hollywood blurb Avandel 128 0 Fri, 11:51pm
       $15.6m early Friday estimate Estel78 46 0 8:36am

  Collapse Do you really think that it was Galadriel vs Sauron.. erdildeniz 633 9 Fri, 3:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by dubulous)
       I interpreted it in exactly the same way. Spriggan 330 0 Fri, 3:48pm
       I completely missed that Tintallė 275 0 Fri, 4:42pm
       . Nerven 199 0 Fri, 6:45pm
       Hopefully in the EE Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth 204 0 Fri, 7:16pm
       I will have to look for it Ham_Sammy 167 0 Fri, 8:00pm
       I agree KingTurgon 109 0 Fri, 11:55pm
       Collapse What did people think of this scene? imin 30 1 9:01am
           Flashes, flashes and more flashes! Arandir 28 0 9:49am
       Definitely Galadriel alone in the movie // dubulous 12 0 54 mins ago

  Collapse Musings on The Hobbit vs. LOTR Roheryn 753 17 Fri, 1:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by imin)
       Possibly… Glorfindela 380 0 Fri, 1:55pm
     Collapse Thanks for this, Roheryn Lurker in the Mirk 358 1 Fri, 2:05pm
           Nice thoughts too, Lurker. Roheryn 101 0 12:22am
       I do have quite a bit of gripes with these movies LoremIpsum 338 0 Fri, 2:52pm
       For me, it's all about the characters Elarie 313 0 Fri, 2:59pm
       Collapse I had the opposite reaction Eledhwen 318 1 Fri, 3:35pm
           And therein Roheryn 102 0 12:31am
       Collapse Saw it 10 times mirkwoodwanderer 302 1 Fri, 4:16pm
           The actors in the Hobbit trilogy are better caliber than in LOTR ltnjmy 240 0 Fri, 6:26pm
       Collapse You have captured EXACTLY the sentiments Tintallė 285 2 Fri, 4:31pm
           that makes me cry too. Thank you mirkwoodwanderer 220 0 Fri, 5:59pm
           I've been channeling you! Roheryn 95 0 12:43am
       Same here ghost_matt 250 0 Fri, 4:32pm
       Great post Ro Ruxendil_Thoorg 238 0 Fri, 5:07pm
       My love for Dwarves grew slowly Elanor of Rohan 152 0 Fri, 9:42pm
       Collapse I feel the opposite, but it's cool that you feel like you do! demnation 81 1 2:39am
           Yeah I'm the exact same imin 26 0 9:06am

Collapse Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXX VValar 455 24 Fri, 9:47am Jump to last post in thread (by Ilmatar)
     Collapse *peeks from behind laptop screen* *checks left* *checks right* VValar 247 2 Fri, 9:56am
         Yay, number THIRTY! On_the_partyelk 187 0 Fri, 12:49pm
         *LoL* TAXXX! Definitely worth breaking out the party hats Lurker in the Mirk 179 0 Fri, 1:12pm
     Collapse The gorgeous latest official Thranduil pic VValar 256 1 Fri, 10:02am
           the source of the new pictures stn5 222 0 Fri, 10:32am
     Collapse If you want a bit of Christmas Carols fun VValar 232 1 Fri, 10:10am
           Thanks for the signal boost, VValar. And thralls... Lurker in the Mirk 176 0 Fri, 1:15pm
     Collapse Reply to Lurker's last batch of season's Pretty from last thread VValar 220 1 Fri, 10:17am
         Been a while since we got some FLAST eh? Lurker in the Mirk 177 0 Fri, 1:14pm
     Collapse Thranduil doesn't want to listen to his son -gif. It's Xmas! VValar 242 1 Fri, 10:27am
           Just SNERT! Lurker in the Mirk 180 0 Fri, 1:16pm
     Collapse The BIG Three O! Lurker in the Mirk 188 4 Fri, 1:07pm
           Collapse Another Pretty - armour!fan art Lurker in the Mirk 185 1 Fri, 1:19pm
               Very nice mariel 123 0 Fri, 5:14pm
           Where did 29 go? mariel 125 0 Fri, 5:11pm
           :) Ilmatar 94 0 Fri, 7:49pm
       Wow! Adrianna 173 0 Fri, 2:32pm
     Way to go VValar! Eruvandi 163 0 Fri, 3:00pm
       Collapse Hobbit Talk: Is Thranduil a good father? stn5 166 3 Fri, 4:22pm
           Collapse I vote "good father" in that he's a work in progress Ruxendil_Thoorg 129 1 Fri, 5:30pm
               Exactly! Adrianna 121 0 Fri, 5:57pm
           interesting topic for sure On_the_partyelk 115 0 Fri, 7:05pm
       *brings red velvet cake to Mirkwood court, curtsies before Thranduil, serves cake to Elvenking and his followers* Holly Hobbit 155 0 Fri, 4:26pm
     Picking myself off the floor! Nice side by side pic! Adrianna 131 0 Fri, 5:45pm

  Collapse Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Hobbithole 925 27 Fri, 9:08am Jump to last post in thread (by imin)
       Collapse Well, there's a faithful adaptation and then there's an entertaining film... Aragorn the Elfstone 530 2 Fri, 9:20am
           Collapse Totally agree! Hobbithole 426 1 Fri, 9:30am
               In general... Aragorn the Elfstone 42 0 6:23am
       A 'faithful' adaptation would've been boring... elvish.mafia 461 0 Fri, 9:36am
       yes. it is mirkwoodwanderer 399 0 Fri, 10:20am
       Collapse They nailed the arkestone plot and Thorin and Bilbo's relationship LoremIpsum 441 5 Fri, 10:28am
           Collapse For me Glorfindela 386 1 Fri, 11:40am
               Totally this! Lurker in the Mirk 291 0 Fri, 1:25pm
           Collapse Agree with Lorem Ipsum and Hammy Sammy, among others Avandel 226 2 Fri, 4:08pm
               Collapse Missing characters Ham_Sammy 219 1 Fri, 4:15pm
                 Thank you for your reply Avandel 175 0 Fri, 5:15pm
       Hm.. Anubis 377 0 Fri, 10:37am
       They are, of course, not quite as good as if I had made them myself..... Miss-Merriweather 383 0 Fri, 10:53am
       I would say it was a tendency to polarisation, in both directions. Spriggan 376 0 Fri, 11:11am
       "As good as"? Roheryn 297 0 Fri, 1:46pm
       Not as much as there is a Lindele 280 0 Fri, 2:03pm
       Of course not. tsmith675 261 0 Fri, 3:00pm
       I can only say for myself Ham_Sammy 255 0 Fri, 3:29pm
       Of course not! Darkstone 249 0 Fri, 3:37pm
       Collapse My personal opinion and experience. NecromancerRising 242 2 Fri, 4:46pm
           Collapse Beautifully said! Avandel 182 1 Fri, 5:26pm
               This! Exactly. NecromancerRising 163 0 Fri, 5:43pm
       Collapse Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Old Toby 162 2 Fri, 6:43pm
           Loved it! Ann Kalagon 78 0 12:07am
           In my opinion Ham_Sammy 76 0 12:19am
       I believe Peter Jackson took greater care fmaximus 58 0 1:34am
       I think you ask some really good questions imin 14 0 9:17am

  Collapse Galadriel's Power Drain? Girdle of Melian 725 33 Fri, 8:16am Jump to last post in thread (by Nerven)
       by fan boys do you mean those that wanted these characters to be more rather than less based on Tolkien ElendilTheShort 401 0 Fri, 8:27am
       Collapse Pretty much bad writing based on a misinterpreted quote... Eleniel 430 20 Fri, 8:28am
           Collapse first time ive heard of this quote ElendilTheShort 369 19 Fri, 9:28am
               Collapse Galadriel spoke that line in the FOTR movie Tintallė 226 13 Fri, 4:55pm
                   Collapse A couple of points Spriggan 212 12 Fri, 5:26pm
                       Collapse ??? Tintallė 195 11 Fri, 6:05pm
                           Collapse Nenya doesn't obviously have power as a direct offensive weapon. Spriggan 184 10 Fri, 6:40pm
                               Collapse the elven rings were not weapons at all ElendilTheShort 179 7 Fri, 6:47pm
                                   Preservation, healing, building, inspiration and defense Spriggan 158 0 Fri, 7:05pm
                                   Collapse We don't know specifically the powers of Nenya, but Galadriel did Eruonen 120 5 Fri, 10:27pm
                                       Collapse That's an interesting one... Eleniel 103 3 Fri, 10:56pm
                                           Collapse I don't think Galadriel needed to Nenya to destroy Dol Guldur Girdle of Melian 81 2 Fri, 11:37pm
                                               Collapse They fade, not wink out in a snap. Eruonen 56 1 2:47am
                                                   . Nerven 11 0 51 mins ago
                                       She threw down the walls of Dol Guldur... Elizabeth 67 0 1:54am
                               Collapse She says it after Frodo has looked in Galadriel's mirror Tintallė 68 1 1:14am
                                   Sorry I thought you were talking about Spriggan 64 0 1:18am
               Collapse It's around the 9 minute mark if you want to check it out... Eleniel 146 4 Fri, 9:33pm
                   Collapse terrible ElendilTheShort 142 3 Fri, 9:56pm
                       Collapse Well that's not clear at all. Spriggan 128 2 Fri, 10:14pm
                           Collapse fair call by you in that respect ElendilTheShort 111 1 Fri, 10:30pm
                               Absolutely. Spriggan 104 0 Fri, 10:42pm
       I don't think it was bad writing at all... ecthelionsbeard 354 0 Fri, 9:15am
       I think Sauron started consuming her since she entered Dol Guldur. irasel 349 0 Fri, 9:51am
       Collapse I think this sort if engineer's mindset is unlikely to be any sort of clue. Spriggan 320 4 Fri, 10:53am
           Collapse i think only those whose primary interest or backround is gaming would look for absolutes in any type of heirachy ElendilTheShort 299 3 Fri, 11:28am
               Collapse Interpretation is just that. Spriggan 290 2 Fri, 11:39am
                   Collapse using aragorns example ElendilTheShort 291 1 Fri, 11:51am
                       Absolutely. Spriggan 278 0 Fri, 12:05pm
       . Nerven 246 0 Fri, 1:52pm
       Collapse I resented it. Elizabeth 56 2 3:00am
           Remember, Gandalf also was a poor weak form after his encounter so that is not totally Eruonen 42 0 5:21am
           . Nerven 10 0 36 mins ago

  Collapse Thorin and Azogs final effort boldog 712 13 Fri, 7:57am Jump to last post in thread (by Ham_Sammy)
       Collapse I definitely agree Angharad73 352 1 Fri, 9:18am
           Denial ain't just a river in egypt LoremIpsum 298 0 Fri, 11:59am
       Best and most intense duel in the cinematic NecromancerRising 360 0 Fri, 9:28am
       I didn't like it Glorfindela 314 0 Fri, 11:42am
       Thorin is just fantastic mirkwoodwanderer 221 0 Fri, 4:17pm
       Collapse I enjoyed the sequence Ham_Sammy 207 2 Fri, 4:50pm
           Collapse Competely agree with your post Avandel 83 1 12:00am
               Fate Ham_Sammy 46 0 3:44am
       I thought it was splendid. Tintallė 195 0 Fri, 5:05pm
       Gripping Ruxendil_Thoorg 181 0 Fri, 5:45pm
       Collapse Stupid Danielos 151 1 Fri, 9:12pm
           Brutally intense... ecthelionsbeard 130 0 Fri, 9:40pm
       Agreed! tarasaurus 57 0 3:05am

  Collapse Symbolism in BOFA and the Hobbit trilogy Saneliur 485 3 Fri, 6:46am Jump to last post in thread (by Scorchster)
       Metaphorical Symbols DwellerInDale 267 0 Fri, 7:33am
       Arrgh! I would like to have words with PJ Earl 274 0 Fri, 7:50am
       Here's another! Scorchster 129 0 Fri, 4:46pm

  Collapse I am still not sure exactly how Bard cobbled together a bow strong enough Eruonen 768 48 Fri, 5:46am Jump to last post in thread (by ElendilTheShort)
       Collapse Unfortunately it was an utter nonsense moment ElendilTheShort 415 4 Fri, 8:18am
           Collapse It is a children's book... nicely made into a movie. mirkwoodwanderer 339 1 Fri, 10:23am
               i wouldnt want my children seeing this movie due to the level of violence ElendilTheShort 320 0 Fri, 10:50am
           Collapse Smaug's pride joec_34 59 1 1:09am
               Agree, he had no fear of Bard, a puny man with an ineffective weapon. Eruonen 52 0 1:49am
       Collapse I am certain this was a problematic non credible action sequence the 13th warrior 364 1 Fri, 8:49am
           maybe not indy jones ridiculous ElendilTheShort 324 0 Fri, 9:33am
       Collapse you have to stop watching the movie as an adult mirkwoodwanderer 320 1 Fri, 10:24am
           The book was just fine..adults and children....black arrow into his heart. Eruonen 143 0 Fri, 6:41pm
       Collapse Here is a picture of a man using a makeshift bow to shoot a talking dragon Spriggan 356 27 Fri, 11:00am
           Collapse did you not realise ElendilTheShort 331 26 Fri, 11:42am
               Collapse Tolkien also worked hard Roheryn 306 1 Fri, 12:04pm
                   thankS ElendilTheShort 187 0 Fri, 5:56pm
               Only probability rather than reality Spriggan 281 0 Fri, 12:19pm
               Collapse Sure but... Arvida 255 22 Fri, 12:54pm
                   Collapse Or, without leaving the scene in question, genetic language learning. Spriggan 253 21 Fri, 1:11pm
                       Collapse that is a good example of a fantastical element ElendilTheShort 162 20 Fri, 6:11pm
                           Collapse How is it fantastical? Spriggan 153 19 Fri, 6:29pm
                               Collapse men understanding the language of birds is fantastical, i don't now how else to put it. ElendilTheShort 143 18 Fri, 6:42pm
                                   Collapse Ha - so it is a free probability pass. Spriggan 204 2 Fri, 7:00pm
                                       Collapse not at all ElendilTheShort 189 1 Fri, 7:14pm
                                           So which is it for Bard then? Spriggan 187 0 Fri, 7:19pm
                                   Collapse It showcases his narcissism and invincibility Cirashala 179 14 Fri, 7:38pm
                                       Collapse yet he would have known the threat was possible ElendilTheShort 168 13 Fri, 7:56pm
                                           But Girion's black arrows only knocked one scale off him Cirashala 153 0 Fri, 8:14pm
                                           Collapse LOTR has the same problem. Darkstone 157 1 Fri, 8:32pm
                                               that is a rather large hole in the story ElendilTheShort 122 0 Fri, 9:39pm
                                           Collapse There is a difference Eruonen 153 9 Fri, 8:56pm
                                               Collapse swords are ElendilTheShort 121 6 Fri, 9:42pm
                                                   Collapse Orcrist however is designed with more meat at the end. Eruonen 106 5 Fri, 9:54pm
                                                       Collapse the closest actual example to Orcrist would be a falchion ElendilTheShort 97 4 Fri, 10:00pm
                                                           Collapse Evidently you can throw a sword Eruonen 91 3 Fri, 10:03pm
                                                               Collapse take his summary with a big bag of salt ElendilTheShort 81 1 Fri, 10:23pm
                                                                   Some video attempts... Eruonen 70 0 Fri, 11:01pm
                                                               Yep!! My thoughts exactly! ecthelionsbeard 80 0 Fri, 10:24pm
                                               Collapse Of course Legolas can throw a sword Elarie 38 1 4:11am
                                                   nicely done ElendilTheShort 19 0 7:20am
       Well, as PJ said in one of the DOS appendices... Elarie 283 0 Fri, 1:37pm
       Collapse Suspension of disbelief. tsmith675 233 9 Fri, 2:57pm
           Collapse If you can't suspend disbelief who is at fault? Moahunter 172 7 Fri, 6:13pm
               Collapse if you are forced to suspend belief ElendilTheShort 161 3 Fri, 6:29pm
                   Collapse Bard's improvised bow... DigificWriter 145 2 Fri, 6:41pm
                       Collapse The question concerns how he made it, it is hard to tell from the film Eruonen 139 1 Fri, 6:46pm
                           Overconfidence.... DigificWriter 204 0 Fri, 6:50pm
               Collapse Of course there is a limit... tsmith675 196 2 Fri, 7:07pm
                   This is the point of the thread - "He made the bow and it worked. " Eruonen 188 0 Fri, 7:18pm
                   one way or another that bow is as unlikely as ElendilTheShort 180 0 Fri, 7:42pm
           Suspension of belief does not apply here...this is simply a Eruonen 157 0 Fri, 6:45pm
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