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Movie Discussion: The Hobbit
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  Collapse PJ's Cameo... patrickk 872 6 Fri, 11:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by Aranarth)
       Collapse so not khamul then? erdildeniz 456 1 Fri, 11:51pm
           Definitely not khamul Aranarth 11 0 13 mins ago
       Collapse I still haven't caught it! tarasaurus 288 2 3:07am
           Collapse Isn't Katie one of the first Laketowners you see on screen? Earl 217 1 5:30am
               Yup. Roheryn 205 0 5:50am
       Lake town man Arthael 140 0 10:30am

  Collapse At last BOFA has reached us here in Australia.. patrickk 580 11 Fri, 11:02pm Jump to last post in thread (by mefansmum)
       Collapse Glad it finally arrived for you. Eruonen 278 1 Fri, 11:08pm
           Personally Glorfindela 263 0 Fri, 11:28pm
       Collapse Pity that Glorfindel's place was taken by Arwen Elanor of Rohan 251 4 Fri, 11:51pm
           Collapse It just for me... patrickk 210 3 12:32am
               Collapse No no no no no no no *terrified face* Mooseboy018 154 2 4:34am
                   replacing arwen? Me85 117 0 5:49am
                   Well this has certainly stirred up a hornet's nest... patrickk 72 0 9:35am
       Glad you got to see it Ham_Sammy 207 0 12:16am
       Collapse Here's a nice article from The Australian Kim 239 2 12:22am
           Ditto!! Old Toby 116 0 6:48am
           This review was also mefansmum 25 0 1:37pm

  Collapse Rating the LotR and Hobbit films out of 10. Bofur01 794 41 Fri, 9:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by Scorchster)
       Here are my ratings... ecthelionsbeard 477 0 Fri, 9:54pm
       My rankings DigificWriter 460 0 Fri, 9:57pm
       my rankings FrogmortonJustice65 429 0 Fri, 10:03pm
       6 haarp 392 0 Fri, 10:24pm
       Collapse mine Crunchable Birdses 382 9 Fri, 10:33pm
           Collapse There was no "studio-demanded 3-film split" DigificWriter 317 8 Fri, 11:29pm
               Collapse It was a bad idea regardless of who thought of it... Elizabeth 189 2 3:09am
                   Collapse ....especially given the timing of the decision. Eurolock 152 1 4:30am
                       That doesnt seem to mesh with what we've heard moreorless 116 0 8:43am
               Collapse I think the reality is... Osskil 133 4 6:59am
                   Collapse Watch the Appendices for the Extended Editions DigificWriter 121 3 7:10am
                       Collapse My guess is that it wasnt just the amount of material moreorless 88 2 11:01am
                           Collapse Bard Glorfindela 65 1 12:04pm
                               Theres room enough for both but.. moreorless 53 0 12:44pm
       I have have given them in order... patrickk 340 0 Fri, 11:06pm
       Rankings Ham_Sammy 323 0 Fri, 11:11pm
       Mine... Joe20 300 0 Fri, 11:15pm
       Here goes BlackFox 303 0 Fri, 11:17pm
       mine MedwedtoBeorn 276 0 Fri, 11:34pm
       Mine: Glorfindela 281 0 Fri, 11:35pm
       Rating, perhaps a little arbitrary, but fun! Foromir 256 0 12:23am
       DoS rating low CuriousG 270 0 12:24am
       Hmmm, in the category of fantasy films Spriggan 253 0 12:29am
       Mine m.summers343 235 0 1:00am
       Collapse all EE of course (except BOTFA I'm predicting) Nira 227 1 2:11am
           On that basis: Elizabeth 178 0 3:07am
       Ok I'll bite demnation 199 0 2:11am
       Mah ratings MechaGodzilla 192 0 2:29am
     MINE!!! MJM 180 0 2:50am
       My ranking... Eurolock 176 0 2:57am
       Collapse All Extended Editions Istaris'staffs 173 1 3:33am
           my fav and my worst mo0on-light 143 0 6:06am
       Ratings Osskil 131 0 6:51am
       Mine: NecromancerRising 132 0 6:57am
       Ratings imin 113 0 8:55am
       Collapse Everyone holds the Hobbit in much higher regard than me! Arthael 102 1 10:52am
           Well, you liked The Hobbit films more than me! malickfan 44 0 12:50pm
       Mine Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) 79 0 11:30am
       My Ranking malickfan 52 0 12:48pm
       My ratings! Peterthorn of Rohan 38 0 1:21pm
       My ratings, with explanations Scorchster 28 0 57 mins ago

  Collapse The theatrical version is not clear on how the masses of orcs Eruonen 813 13 Fri, 9:08pm Jump to last post in thread (by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur)
       I am assuming the loss of their leadership signaling station Eruonen 412 0 Fri, 9:28pm
       Collapse The way the battle was portrayed is one of the problems I have with the end of BOTFA. Holly Hobbit 433 1 Fri, 9:43pm
           "Ravenhill had been inspired by Frozen." Funny! Eruonen 357 0 Fri, 9:46pm
       I agree Ham_Sammy 321 0 Fri, 10:05pm
       I actually thought the ambiguity worked out very well. Spriggan 327 0 Fri, 10:10pm
       Collapse And the Fellowship was vastly outnumbered... Darkstone 337 5 Fri, 10:22pm
           Collapse amon Hen Ham_Sammy 299 2 Fri, 10:36pm
               Collapse Yep Darkstone 266 1 Fri, 10:52pm
                   Not really a fair comparison... Eurolock 149 0 4:43am
           Collapse Aragorn arrived with more than that... Eruonen 284 1 Fri, 10:52pm
               Maybe there will be a... MasterOrc 187 0 2:30am
       I thought... dubulous 76 0 10:54am
       It was the same in AUJ Lieutenant of Dol Guldur 63 0 11:15am

  Collapse Another versus thread maybe? Boromir2k 337 8 Fri, 7:36pm Jump to last post in thread (by mae govannen)
       Collapse Working as intended. Darkstone 209 4 Fri, 7:57pm
           Collapse I find the different aesthetics to be at conflict Bishop 156 2 Fri, 9:36pm
               Collapse For example.... Darkstone 121 1 Fri, 10:49pm
                   Excellent points I'd say. // mae govannen 13 0 1:45pm
           wise words from a wise man. mirkwoodwanderer 87 0 12:01am
       Collapse Battle scenes CuriousG 93 2 12:31am
           Collapse LOTR scenes.... Darkstone 65 1 4:19am
             LOL!!! Excellent. I hope mae govannen 18 0 1:51pm

  Collapse Happy Christmas! (box office related) Estel78 724 11 Fri, 3:52pm Jump to last post in thread (by mae govannen)
       That's great! Ham_Sammy 331 0 Fri, 3:55pm
       Collapse who are you and what have you done with Estel? Voronwė_the_Faithful 345 2 Fri, 4:09pm
           Collapse I just post how i see it, no sugarcoating. ;) Estel78 253 1 Fri, 5:26pm
               Sugarcoating is entirely different NecromancerRising 243 0 Fri, 5:35pm
       Very nice numbers indeed! NecromancerRising 309 0 Fri, 4:12pm
       In NL mirkwoodwanderer 320 0 Fri, 4:12pm
       I will be doing my best Tintallė 295 0 Fri, 4:39pm
       Deadline Hollywood blurb Avandel 155 0 Fri, 11:51pm
       Collapse $15.6m early Friday estimate Estel78 86 2 8:36am
           Collapse Reverse jinx? Voronwė_the_Faithful 31 1 1:14pm
               ... and of the connection between a number of them mae govannen 20 0 53 mins ago

  Collapse Do you really think that it was Galadriel vs Sauron.. erdildeniz 673 9 Fri, 3:33pm Jump to last post in thread (by dubulous)
       I interpreted it in exactly the same way. Spriggan 345 0 Fri, 3:48pm
       I completely missed that Tintallė 289 0 Fri, 4:42pm
       . Nerven 210 0 Fri, 6:45pm
       Hopefully in the EE Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth 221 0 Fri, 7:16pm
       I will have to look for it Ham_Sammy 182 0 Fri, 8:00pm
       I agree KingTurgon 122 0 Fri, 11:55pm
       Collapse What did people think of this scene? imin 52 1 9:01am
           Flashes, flashes and more flashes! Arandir 50 0 9:49am
       Definitely Galadriel alone in the movie // dubulous 30 0 10:58am

  Collapse Musings on The Hobbit vs. LOTR Roheryn 804 18 Fri, 1:23pm Jump to last post in thread (by Eledhwen)
       Possibly… Glorfindela 408 0 Fri, 1:55pm
     Collapse Thanks for this, Roheryn Lurker in the Mirk 386 1 Fri, 2:05pm
           Nice thoughts too, Lurker. Roheryn 128 0 12:22am
       I do have quite a bit of gripes with these movies LoremIpsum 364 0 Fri, 2:52pm
       For me, it's all about the characters Elarie 340 0 Fri, 2:59pm
       Collapse I had the opposite reaction Eledhwen 346 2 Fri, 3:35pm
           Collapse And therein Roheryn 132 1 12:31am
               That's a good question Eledhwen 18 0 1:17pm
       Collapse Saw it 10 times mirkwoodwanderer 330 1 Fri, 4:16pm
           The actors in the Hobbit trilogy are better caliber than in LOTR ltnjmy 268 0 Fri, 6:26pm
       Collapse You have captured EXACTLY the sentiments Tintallė 312 2 Fri, 4:31pm
           that makes me cry too. Thank you mirkwoodwanderer 246 0 Fri, 5:59pm
           I've been channeling you! Roheryn 120 0 12:43am
       Same here ghost_matt 276 0 Fri, 4:32pm
       Great post Ro Ruxendil_Thoorg 264 0 Fri, 5:07pm
       My love for Dwarves grew slowly Elanor of Rohan 179 0 Fri, 9:42pm
       Collapse I feel the opposite, but it's cool that you feel like you do! demnation 111 1 2:39am
           Yeah I'm the exact same imin 55 0 9:06am

Collapse Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XXX VValar 481 24 Fri, 9:47am Jump to last post in thread (by Ilmatar)
     Collapse *peeks from behind laptop screen* *checks left* *checks right* VValar 260 2 Fri, 9:56am
         Yay, number THIRTY! On_the_partyelk 200 0 Fri, 12:49pm
         *LoL* TAXXX! Definitely worth breaking out the party hats Lurker in the Mirk 192 0 Fri, 1:12pm
     Collapse The gorgeous latest official Thranduil pic VValar 270 1 Fri, 10:02am
           the source of the new pictures stn5 236 0 Fri, 10:32am
     Collapse If you want a bit of Christmas Carols fun VValar 245 1 Fri, 10:10am
           Thanks for the signal boost, VValar. And thralls... Lurker in the Mirk 189 0 Fri, 1:15pm
     Collapse Reply to Lurker's last batch of season's Pretty from last thread VValar 233 1 Fri, 10:17am
         Been a while since we got some FLAST eh? Lurker in the Mirk 190 0 Fri, 1:14pm
     Collapse Thranduil doesn't want to listen to his son -gif. It's Xmas! VValar 257 1 Fri, 10:27am
           Just SNERT! Lurker in the Mirk 193 0 Fri, 1:16pm
     Collapse The BIG Three O! Lurker in the Mirk 201 4 Fri, 1:07pm
           Collapse Another Pretty - armour!fan art Lurker in the Mirk 199 1 Fri, 1:19pm
               Very nice mariel 136 0 Fri, 5:14pm
           Where did 29 go? mariel 138 0 Fri, 5:11pm
           :) Ilmatar 107 0 Fri, 7:49pm
       Wow! Adrianna 186 0 Fri, 2:32pm
     Way to go VValar! Eruvandi 176 0 Fri, 3:00pm
       Collapse Hobbit Talk: Is Thranduil a good father? stn5 180 3 Fri, 4:22pm
           Collapse I vote "good father" in that he's a work in progress Ruxendil_Thoorg 145 1 Fri, 5:30pm
               Exactly! Adrianna 136 0 Fri, 5:57pm
           interesting topic for sure On_the_partyelk 130 0 Fri, 7:05pm
       *brings red velvet cake to Mirkwood court, curtsies before Thranduil, serves cake to Elvenking and his followers* Holly Hobbit 170 0 Fri, 4:26pm
     Picking myself off the floor! Nice side by side pic! Adrianna 145 0 Fri, 5:45pm

  Collapse Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Hobbithole 976 29 Fri, 9:08am Jump to last post in thread (by Escapist)
       Collapse Well, there's a faithful adaptation and then there's an entertaining film... Aragorn the Elfstone 552 2 Fri, 9:20am
           Collapse Totally agree! Hobbithole 446 1 Fri, 9:30am
               In general... Aragorn the Elfstone 60 0 6:23am
       A 'faithful' adaptation would've been boring... elvish.mafia 482 0 Fri, 9:36am
       yes. it is mirkwoodwanderer 419 0 Fri, 10:20am
       Collapse They nailed the arkestone plot and Thorin and Bilbo's relationship LoremIpsum 462 5 Fri, 10:28am
           Collapse For me Glorfindela 407 1 Fri, 11:40am
               Totally this! Lurker in the Mirk 311 0 Fri, 1:25pm
           Collapse Agree with Lorem Ipsum and Hammy Sammy, among others Avandel 248 2 Fri, 4:08pm
               Collapse Missing characters Ham_Sammy 240 1 Fri, 4:15pm
                 Thank you for your reply Avandel 195 0 Fri, 5:15pm
       Hm.. Anubis 397 0 Fri, 10:37am
       They are, of course, not quite as good as if I had made them myself..... Miss-Merriweather 403 0 Fri, 10:53am
       I would say it was a tendency to polarisation, in both directions. Spriggan 396 0 Fri, 11:11am
       "As good as"? Roheryn 318 0 Fri, 1:46pm
       Not as much as there is a Lindele 301 0 Fri, 2:03pm
       Of course not. tsmith675 282 0 Fri, 3:00pm
       I can only say for myself Ham_Sammy 276 0 Fri, 3:29pm
       Of course not! Darkstone 271 0 Fri, 3:37pm
       Collapse My personal opinion and experience. NecromancerRising 266 2 Fri, 4:46pm
           Collapse Beautifully said! Avandel 204 1 Fri, 5:26pm
               This! Exactly. NecromancerRising 186 0 Fri, 5:43pm
       Collapse Is BOTFA and the Hobbit trilogy really as good as we want it to be? Old Toby 188 2 Fri, 6:43pm
           Loved it! Ann Kalagon 102 0 12:07am
           In my opinion Ham_Sammy 102 0 12:19am
       I believe Peter Jackson took greater care fmaximus 82 0 1:34am
       I think you ask some really good questions imin 40 0 9:17am
       hmmm elostirion74 15 0 41 mins ago
       Probably not, but I think it is still quite enjoyable for most. Escapist 12 0 26 mins ago

  Collapse Galadriel's Power Drain? Girdle of Melian 747 33 Fri, 8:16am Jump to last post in thread (by Nerven)
       by fan boys do you mean those that wanted these characters to be more rather than less based on Tolkien ElendilTheShort 411 0 Fri, 8:27am
       Collapse Pretty much bad writing based on a misinterpreted quote... Eleniel 440 20 Fri, 8:28am
           Collapse first time ive heard of this quote ElendilTheShort 377 19 Fri, 9:28am
               Collapse Galadriel spoke that line in the FOTR movie Tintallė 236 13 Fri, 4:55pm
                   Collapse A couple of points Spriggan 221 12 Fri, 5:26pm
                       Collapse ??? Tintallė 204 11 Fri, 6:05pm
                           Collapse Nenya doesn't obviously have power as a direct offensive weapon. Spriggan 193 10 Fri, 6:40pm
                               Collapse the elven rings were not weapons at all ElendilTheShort 188 7 Fri, 6:47pm
                                   Preservation, healing, building, inspiration and defense Spriggan 166 0 Fri, 7:05pm
                                   Collapse We don't know specifically the powers of Nenya, but Galadriel did Eruonen 128 5 Fri, 10:27pm
                                       Collapse That's an interesting one... Eleniel 111 3 Fri, 10:56pm
                                           Collapse I don't think Galadriel needed to Nenya to destroy Dol Guldur Girdle of Melian 88 2 Fri, 11:37pm
                                               Collapse They fade, not wink out in a snap. Eruonen 63 1 2:47am
                                                   . Nerven 17 0 11:00am
                                       She threw down the walls of Dol Guldur... Elizabeth 75 0 1:54am
                               Collapse She says it after Frodo has looked in Galadriel's mirror Tintallė 75 1 1:14am
                                   Sorry I thought you were talking about Spriggan 71 0 1:18am
               Collapse It's around the 9 minute mark if you want to check it out... Eleniel 156 4 Fri, 9:33pm
                   Collapse terrible ElendilTheShort 151 3 Fri, 9:56pm
                       Collapse Well that's not clear at all. Spriggan 137 2 Fri, 10:14pm
                           Collapse fair call by you in that respect ElendilTheShort 119 1 Fri, 10:30pm
                               Absolutely. Spriggan 112 0 Fri, 10:42pm
       I don't think it was bad writing at all... ecthelionsbeard 362 0 Fri, 9:15am
       I think Sauron started consuming her since she entered Dol Guldur. irasel 357 0 Fri, 9:51am
       Collapse I think this sort if engineer's mindset is unlikely to be any sort of clue. Spriggan 328 4 Fri, 10:53am
           Collapse i think only those whose primary interest or backround is gaming would look for absolutes in any type of heirachy ElendilTheShort 307 3 Fri, 11:28am
               Collapse Interpretation is just that. Spriggan 298 2 Fri, 11:39am
                   Collapse using aragorns example ElendilTheShort 299 1 Fri, 11:51am
                       Absolutely. Spriggan 287 0 Fri, 12:05pm
       . Nerven 256 0 Fri, 1:52pm
       Collapse I resented it. Elizabeth 67 2 3:00am
           Remember, Gandalf also was a poor weak form after his encounter so that is not totally Eruonen 52 0 5:21am
           . Nerven 22 0 11:15am

  Collapse Thorin and Azogs final effort boldog 753 14 Fri, 7:57am Jump to last post in thread (by BalrogTrainer)
       Collapse I definitely agree Angharad73 375 1 Fri, 9:18am
           Denial ain't just a river in egypt LoremIpsum 323 0 Fri, 11:59am
       Best and most intense duel in the cinematic NecromancerRising 386 0 Fri, 9:28am
       I didn't like it Glorfindela 339 0 Fri, 11:42am
       Thorin is just fantastic mirkwoodwanderer 245 0 Fri, 4:17pm
       Collapse I enjoyed the sequence Ham_Sammy 233 2 Fri, 4:50pm
           Collapse Competely agree with your post Avandel 110 1 12:00am
               Fate Ham_Sammy 73 0 3:44am
       I thought it was splendid. Tintallė 220 0 Fri, 5:05pm
       Gripping Ruxendil_Thoorg 206 0 Fri, 5:45pm
       Collapse Stupid Danielos 179 2 Fri, 9:12pm
           Brutally intense... ecthelionsbeard 156 0 Fri, 9:40pm
           Canon be damned... BalrogTrainer 4 0 6 mins ago
       Agreed! tarasaurus 82 0 3:05am

  Collapse Symbolism in BOFA and the Hobbit trilogy Saneliur 494 3 Fri, 6:46am Jump to last post in thread (by Scorchster)
       Metaphorical Symbols DwellerInDale 272 0 Fri, 7:33am
       Arrgh! I would like to have words with PJ Earl 278 0 Fri, 7:50am
       Here's another! Scorchster 133 0 Fri, 4:46pm

  Collapse I am still not sure exactly how Bard cobbled together a bow strong enough Eruonen 782 48 Fri, 5:46am Jump to last post in thread (by ElendilTheShort)
       Collapse Unfortunately it was an utter nonsense moment ElendilTheShort 423 4 Fri, 8:18am
           Collapse It is a children's book... nicely made into a movie. mirkwoodwanderer 347 1 Fri, 10:23am
               i wouldnt want my children seeing this movie due to the level of violence ElendilTheShort 328 0 Fri, 10:50am
           Collapse Smaug's pride joec_34 68 1 1:09am
               Agree, he had no fear of Bard, a puny man with an ineffective weapon. Eruonen 59 0 1:49am
       Collapse I am certain this was a problematic non credible action sequence the 13th warrior 371 1 Fri, 8:49am
           maybe not indy jones ridiculous ElendilTheShort 330 0 Fri, 9:33am
       Collapse you have to stop watching the movie as an adult mirkwoodwanderer 327 1 Fri, 10:24am
           The book was just fine..adults and children....black arrow into his heart. Eruonen 148 0 Fri, 6:41pm
       Collapse Here is a picture of a man using a makeshift bow to shoot a talking dragon Spriggan 364 27 Fri, 11:00am
           Collapse did you not realise ElendilTheShort 337 26 Fri, 11:42am
               Collapse Tolkien also worked hard Roheryn 313 1 Fri, 12:04pm
                   thankS ElendilTheShort 193 0 Fri, 5:56pm
               Only probability rather than reality Spriggan 287 0 Fri, 12:19pm
               Collapse Sure but... Arvida 261 22 Fri, 12:54pm
                   Collapse Or, without leaving the scene in question, genetic language learning. Spriggan 259 21 Fri, 1:11pm
                       Collapse that is a good example of a fantastical element ElendilTheShort 168 20 Fri, 6:11pm
                           Collapse How is it fantastical? Spriggan 158 19 Fri, 6:29pm
                               Collapse men understanding the language of birds is fantastical, i don't now how else to put it. ElendilTheShort 148 18 Fri, 6:42pm
                                   Collapse Ha - so it is a free probability pass. Spriggan 209 2 Fri, 7:00pm
                                       Collapse not at all ElendilTheShort 194 1 Fri, 7:14pm
                                           So which is it for Bard then? Spriggan 192 0 Fri, 7:19pm
                                   Collapse It showcases his narcissism and invincibility Cirashala 186 14 Fri, 7:38pm
                                       Collapse yet he would have known the threat was possible ElendilTheShort 173 13 Fri, 7:56pm
                                           But Girion's black arrows only knocked one scale off him Cirashala 158 0 Fri, 8:14pm
                                           Collapse LOTR has the same problem. Darkstone 162 1 Fri, 8:32pm
                                               that is a rather large hole in the story ElendilTheShort 127 0 Fri, 9:39pm
                                           Collapse There is a difference Eruonen 158 9 Fri, 8:56pm
                                               Collapse swords are ElendilTheShort 126 6 Fri, 9:42pm
                                                   Collapse Orcrist however is designed with more meat at the end. Eruonen 111 5 Fri, 9:54pm
                                                       Collapse the closest actual example to Orcrist would be a falchion ElendilTheShort 102 4 Fri, 10:00pm
                                                           Collapse Evidently you can throw a sword Eruonen 96 3 Fri, 10:03pm
                                                               Collapse take his summary with a big bag of salt ElendilTheShort 86 1 Fri, 10:23pm
                                                                   Some video attempts... Eruonen 75 0 Fri, 11:01pm
                                                               Yep!! My thoughts exactly! ecthelionsbeard 85 0 Fri, 10:24pm
                                               Collapse Of course Legolas can throw a sword Elarie 45 1 4:11am
                                                   nicely done ElendilTheShort 28 0 7:20am
       Well, as PJ said in one of the DOS appendices... Elarie 290 0 Fri, 1:37pm
       Collapse Suspension of disbelief. tsmith675 239 9 Fri, 2:57pm
           Collapse If you can't suspend disbelief who is at fault? Moahunter 178 7 Fri, 6:13pm
               Collapse if you are forced to suspend belief ElendilTheShort 167 3 Fri, 6:29pm
                   Collapse Bard's improvised bow... DigificWriter 153 2 Fri, 6:41pm
                       Collapse The question concerns how he made it, it is hard to tell from the film Eruonen 146 1 Fri, 6:46pm
                           Overconfidence.... DigificWriter 211 0 Fri, 6:50pm
               Collapse Of course there is a limit... tsmith675 202 2 Fri, 7:07pm
                   This is the point of the thread - "He made the bow and it worked. " Eruonen 194 0 Fri, 7:18pm
                   one way or another that bow is as unlikely as ElendilTheShort 186 0 Fri, 7:42pm
           Suspension of belief does not apply here...this is simply a Eruonen 163 0 Fri, 6:45pm
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