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The audience

Changeitminimally
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May 21 2008, 9:58pm


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I'm glad you enjoyed the characterizations made by the script writers... I just prefer Tolkien's characterizations better. The strongest characters in the film are the one's that stay truest to the book. I agree having an accomplished team of writers is important, but for me the original team succumbed to dumbing down certain aspects of the book in an unnecessary attempt to make one of the most popular books of all time, more marketable.

The notion that we need to stick with these writers doesn't quite gel with me. del Toro was not a part of the last three films yet having seen his other work and the integrity and attention to detail he brings with him, I'm thrilled having him direct. Point being, I'm sure there are scores of writers with as much skill or more who could handle this task without uselessly switching plot details around, eliminating the end of the novel, or cheapen the characters as a whole.

As someone else on the thread did, I can just as easily cite personal experience with the audience having seen each film several times in the theater (sad, I know) and describing how any laughter present when Gimli says "Not the beard" or when Merry and Pippen prattle on was negligible or forced. Comedy is not the current script writers' strong suit, nor does it need to be. The material does not lend itself to prat falls and Abbot and Costello routines. Regardless, such an argument is flawed... unless we were in the same theater, I have no idea what your audience was like nor do you know mine (where the laughter was indeed minimal).

Look, the films were an artistic expression beyond anything I'm capable of and I loved them. I'm fine with the current writers... I just wish they would give their audience a little more respect and not make unnecessary changes.

Subject User Time
Wondering about the writing kathyrote Send a private message to kathyrote May 19 2008, 3:52am
    Motherlode of what? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 19 2008, 3:58am
        drama boondoggle -- fersher! squire Send a private message to squire May 19 2008, 4:06am
            Ah, right. Sorry. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 19 2008, 4:59am
        Fantasy and Drama kathyrote Send a private message to kathyrote May 19 2008, 4:16am
    The original screenwriters grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg May 19 2008, 9:13am
        Thank you kathyrote Send a private message to kathyrote May 19 2008, 1:34pm
    Will the original writing team return? Changeitminimally Send a private message to Changeitminimally May 21 2008, 1:52pm
        I'd rather an experienced hand wrote the script than an inexperienced one merklynn Send a private message to merklynn May 21 2008, 6:44pm
            I think they did a good job grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg May 21 2008, 7:23pm
                yes what gramma said Zmulady Send a private message to Zmulady May 21 2008, 7:39pm
                IIRC Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover May 22 2008, 4:57am
                    You're absolutely right! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg May 22 2008, 9:31am
                        Hindsight can be a wonderful thing ROD BAGGINS Send a private message to ROD BAGGINS May 23 2008, 1:18pm
                            *high five* :D // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg May 23 2008, 2:31pm
                            Well said Earl Send a private message to Earl May 23 2008, 5:41pm
            The audience Changeitminimally Send a private message to Changeitminimally May 21 2008, 9:58pm
                No prat falls? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 21 2008, 10:10pm
                    A detail, not the underlying argument. Changeitminimally Send a private message to Changeitminimally May 21 2008, 11:22pm
                        N.E. Brigand is our resident expert... merklynn Send a private message to merklynn May 21 2008, 11:57pm
                            Of course Changeitminimally Send a private message to Changeitminimally May 22 2008, 12:01am
        'There won't be a Shire, Pippin.' How "cutsie"!... // mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen May 24 2008, 4:42pm
            The above line from me was in reply to Changeitminimally mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen May 24 2008, 5:02pm

 
 
 

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