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ohtar77
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Apr 30 2008, 4:14am
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G. del Toro should have done LOTR too.
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Hi fans and hopefully Guillermo. I haven't posted since the
XenArwen days when I rather gave up on my hope for Jackson's LOTR and I
hope others are as happy about Guillermo del Toro directing the Hobbit
as I am. We've seen already that GDT can use film to move and engage
us but I'm particularly excited about his ability to quietly and gently
astonish (see Pan's Labyrinth). Jackson's work (though obviously a
labor of love) relied too heavily on special effects and action to
entertain. Go back and read the scenes like the Temptation of
Galadriel or the Awakening of Theoden - or if you don't believe me read
Roger Ebert's FotR review. del Toro knows how to communicate subtext
through performance whereas Jackson seems to feel most comfortable
having his actors dictate subtext: "nothing ever dampens your spirits"
or "you have come for information" should be messages a film
communicates, not pieces of dialog. I also feel confident that del
Toro will try not to make a Hobbit that is as Hollywood Conscious as
Jackson's LOTR. Much was made of the independence Jackson showed in
filming everything in New Zealand but his LOTR is chock full of
Hollywood: one-liners, sudden awakening from dreams, and
improbable-but-cool action setpieces. I believe GDT has the
sensibility to appreciate some of the more quaint and curious moments
in Tolkien, moments that may not play well in studio boardrooms but
that fans are nevertheless hungry for - if not for Tolkien at least for
something that isn't a cliche. The magic of Tolkien is in discovery.
The Hobbits are the perfect guides because they are unaware of the
vastness of their world - and that world is revealed during a journey
of walking many hundreds of miles. If Tolkien wanted them to
understand their world before entering it he would have given them a
way, but he knew that the story would lose it's immediacy if the
audience knew ahead of time what Mordor, Edoras or Isengard were like
in detail. Jackson (or Raimi or any Hollywood director) are afraid to
give an audience anything they might not understand at the first pass -
del Toro realizes that you can respect your audience enough not to dumb
things down for them. Once, after reading an audience one of his
poems, Robert Frost was asked to explain it. He said: "You mean you
want me to say it again only not as well?" Here's hoping that Bilbo
will be more Ofelia in Pan's Labyrinth and less Anne Darrow in King
Kong.
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In exchange for the Riddle-
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Guillermo
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Apr 24 2008, 11:10pm
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On behalf of our community . . .
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One Ringer
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Apr 24 2008, 11:14pm
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ENCANTADO !!!!
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Bilbo the Rover
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Apr 24 2008, 11:15pm
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There's no time for second breakfast!!
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MsC
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Apr 24 2008, 11:21pm
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The riddle of the riddle is solved! {NT}
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MrCere
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Apr 24 2008, 11:33pm
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*claps hands*
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Magpie
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Apr 24 2008, 11:33pm
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Welcome, good sir. It is truly an honor ...
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BuckyUnderbelly
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Apr 24 2008, 11:34pm
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Bucky, m'boy....
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 1:31am
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Gracias!!
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JRandomRohirrim
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Apr 24 2008, 11:37pm
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yay!
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vtboyarc
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Apr 24 2008, 11:41pm
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Greetings!
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Ryan76
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Apr 24 2008, 11:44pm
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You did it!!
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 24 2008, 11:47pm
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Uh, grams... maybe you should check first to see if he's...
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diedye
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Apr 24 2008, 11:56pm
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Sorry. Ice Cream's part of the deal
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 24 2008, 11:58pm
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April 25th is the day Gandalf meets Bilbo on the porch of Bag End
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 24 2008, 11:56pm
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Now THAT is pretty cool, thanks G-Ma! {NT}
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MrCere
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Apr 25 2008, 12:04am
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Yes that is actually a nice serendipity
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Quickbeam
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Apr 25 2008, 12:37am
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*GASP!* OMG!!!!
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 25 2008, 12:51am
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Then ice cream and strawberries WE SHALL HAVE!!!
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_V_
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Apr 25 2008, 12:58am
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YES!
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StillCrazy
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Apr 25 2008, 1:00am
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I've already got the Bilbo action figure
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 25 2008, 1:08am
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I have all but two
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_V_
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Apr 25 2008, 1:14am
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*snicker* Already planning PJ's cameo, aren't ya, gramma?...
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diedye
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Apr 25 2008, 2:18am
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Is it just me,
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Ataahua
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Apr 25 2008, 2:24am
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Or GDT? ;) //
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 25 2008, 11:09am
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Now you have got your other Argonath figure!!!
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mae govannen
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Apr 26 2008, 12:10am
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Brilliant!
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 26 2008, 1:56am
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Oooo, that's not a bad idea.
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Ataahua
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Apr 26 2008, 5:37am
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Maybe a little like this?
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 26 2008, 10:41am
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LOL
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Kelvarhin
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Apr 26 2008, 10:43am
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Great!
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 26 2008, 12:08pm
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Great News!!
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Bareandir
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Apr 26 2008, 1:10pm
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Oh, and
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 26 2008, 5:50pm
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ROTFL....! Perfect, gramma!!!
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mae govannen
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Apr 26 2008, 3:49pm
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*mods WAY up*
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Ataahua
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Apr 26 2008, 8:58pm
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T'is for you, m'dear
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 27 2008, 3:14am
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I'm considering
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Ataahua
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Apr 27 2008, 6:25am
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HA! How cool!
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stormcrow20
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Apr 27 2008, 3:49am
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But he's got to have a Maya headdress.
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Sunflower
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Apr 28 2008, 2:09am
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"STOP...in the name of love..."
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Sunflower
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Apr 28 2008, 2:12am
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Talk to the hands //
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 28 2008, 9:30am
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Maybe they will make Mr. Del Toro into a matching Hobbit figure! /
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stormcrow20
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Apr 25 2008, 5:26am
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YES! Hobbit action figures!!
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stormcrow20
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Apr 25 2008, 5:25am
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OMG! It's a sign! //
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dernwyn
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Apr 25 2008, 12:40am
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PERFECT timing!
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greendragon
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Apr 25 2008, 1:40am
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That's awesome.
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Finding Frodo
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Apr 25 2008, 1:59am
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Yuppers.
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Ataahua
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Apr 25 2008, 2:20am
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And today's the 24th, so there's our two dozen princes after all!/
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L. Ron Halfelven
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Apr 25 2008, 3:20am
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*high five* //
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 25 2008, 11:10am
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Its Friday the 25th here Grams!!
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Elven
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Apr 25 2008, 3:39am
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April 25! Serendipitous indeed!
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elanor71
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Apr 25 2008, 4:44am
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Isn't that a great 'coincidence' indeed?!? Overwhelming!!! //
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mae govannen
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Apr 26 2008, 12:17am
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Where and when was the pic of GdT and PJ taken?
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mwirkk
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Apr 28 2008, 12:49am
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GdT was in NY and PJ was in LA, I think
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 28 2008, 9:35am
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And it ws ANZAC day Down Under
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Garfeimao
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Apr 28 2008, 7:45am
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Welcome once again, Guillermo
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 24 2008, 11:49pm
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In Good Hands
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 24 2008, 11:50pm
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Fantastic!
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burrahobbit
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Apr 24 2008, 11:51pm
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"Behold!"
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wilsonst541
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Apr 24 2008, 11:51pm
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Now wait a minute...
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diedye
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Apr 24 2008, 11:54pm
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Congratulations!
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KateTheHobbit
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Apr 24 2008, 11:55pm
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*does Dance of Joy*
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bettybalin
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Apr 24 2008, 11:56pm
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And PROUD of it!!!!
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Gaffer Gamgee
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Apr 28 2008, 6:44am
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Enjoy your second breakfast
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Starling
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Apr 24 2008, 11:58pm
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Four years of fun...
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Araniel
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Apr 25 2008, 12:01am
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Hooray! Thank you for taking this on. /
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Kimi
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Apr 25 2008, 12:04am
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YES! I am so hyped!
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labadal
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Apr 25 2008, 3:48am
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Let's get the show on the road!!!
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Patty Ann
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Apr 25 2008, 4:06am
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Let the movie begin!! <NT>
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Rwraith
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Apr 25 2008, 8:04pm
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Welcome to New Zealand
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Nienna
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Apr 25 2008, 12:05am
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Bless you!
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 25 2008, 12:15am
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In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.
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snapcotton
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Apr 25 2008, 12:19am
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Thank you for choosing to be a part of the community!
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merklynn
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Apr 25 2008, 12:22am
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Fantastic!
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DiveTwin
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Apr 25 2008, 12:26am
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In so small an act can the hand of destiny be changed ...
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Quickbeam
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Apr 25 2008, 12:27am
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:) :)
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Ataahua
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Apr 25 2008, 2:22am
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Hiya, Quickbeam!
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entmaiden
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Apr 25 2008, 2:28am
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Nice to see you again, Quickbeam!
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deej
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Apr 25 2008, 5:36pm
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The doorway to dreams just opened...
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ExNihilo
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Apr 25 2008, 12:28am
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will you have moderated Q&A?
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_V_
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Apr 25 2008, 12:31am
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GO the Gaffer! //
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Gaffer Gamgee
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Apr 28 2008, 6:48am
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This is very exciting!
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OhioHobbit
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Apr 25 2008, 12:31am
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How wonderful!
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Alcarcalime
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Apr 25 2008, 12:33am
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wonderful news
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Brass_Ring
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Apr 25 2008, 12:36am
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Welcome and go get em!
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ArathornJax
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Apr 25 2008, 12:37am
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Congratulations!
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dernwyn
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Apr 25 2008, 12:38am
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thank you thank you!!!
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Laerasëa
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Apr 25 2008, 12:39am
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Sweet
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PipeSmoke
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Apr 25 2008, 12:42am
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And there was much rejoicing!//
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Finding Frodo
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Apr 25 2008, 12:43am
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Oh my! do you think you can stand the madness around here?
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hatster
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Apr 25 2008, 12:44am
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Congratulations!
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Ainu Laire
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Apr 25 2008, 12:46am
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*throws confetti, blows horn, shoots off fireworks*
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Kyriel
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Apr 25 2008, 12:52am
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Congratulations, sir!
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entmaiden
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Apr 25 2008, 12:56am
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*pops corks* This calls for an early Fiesta erm... Thursday
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Altaira
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Apr 25 2008, 1:01am
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Welcome !! Well done !
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Rivendweller
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Apr 25 2008, 1:05am
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Thank you!
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Morrowdim
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Apr 25 2008, 1:16am
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Looking forward to 2011 and 2012!!!
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JJ Moon
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Apr 25 2008, 1:19am
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What a trip is all I can say. //
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Mar
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Apr 25 2008, 1:20am
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Congratulations!
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Urambo Tauro
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Apr 25 2008, 1:21am
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A Great Director is Never Late, or Early....
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Grey Pilgrim
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Apr 25 2008, 1:24am
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Perfect reply!......."where were you"? "Oh I am sorry.....I was....delayed...."
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_V_
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Apr 25 2008, 1:26am
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Woot! *does happy dance*
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Smeagirl/Girllum
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Apr 25 2008, 1:25am
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Again, "Welcome, welcome!"
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 1:37am
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Congratulations!!!
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neverbaby
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Apr 25 2008, 1:37am
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Hurrah! And there was much rejoicing!!
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greendragon
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Apr 25 2008, 1:40am
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GMTA!//
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Finding Frodo
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Apr 25 2008, 2:25am
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Isn't this fabulous!?!?!?!?!
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Lossefalme
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Apr 25 2008, 2:42pm
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The GdT Express is in the station...
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mwirkk
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Apr 25 2008, 1:41am
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Yes!
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Notallwhowanderarelost
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Apr 25 2008, 1:45am
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My heart is full.
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GreenHeart
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Apr 25 2008, 1:49am
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Mae govannen, and thank you!
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Loresilme
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Apr 25 2008, 1:49am
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WOOHOO!
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Annael
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Apr 25 2008, 1:57am
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Woohoo! Time to celebrate!
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Silverlode
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Apr 25 2008, 2:19am
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On a side note....
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 2:26am
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Congratulations Guillermo, and thank you for taking these movies on!
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Ataahua
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Apr 25 2008, 2:25am
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Hi
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LadyMerenwen298
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Apr 25 2008, 2:27am
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WILL THEY BE IN 3D?!?!! Thats is the question NOW!
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jimdorey
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Apr 25 2008, 2:30am
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I'm sure you'll get your answer
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Altaira
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Apr 25 2008, 2:36am
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Its a valid question - No need to snuff it out like that.
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jimdorey
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Apr 25 2008, 2:41am
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A valid question, yes
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Altaira
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Apr 25 2008, 3:07am
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No problem
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jimdorey
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Apr 25 2008, 1:04pm
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3D
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 25 2008, 2:37am
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3D - As WETA Held a 3D related meeting already without GDT - YES, PJ + Studio
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jimdorey
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Apr 25 2008, 2:43am
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3D
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 25 2008, 2:53am
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Mae Govannen Guillermo!
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Steelsheen
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Apr 25 2008, 2:36am
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Hooray!
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weaver
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Apr 25 2008, 2:38am
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In exchange for the Riddle
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Miss_Pippin
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Apr 25 2008, 2:39am
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Hey there!
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Morrowdim
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Apr 25 2008, 4:29am
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OH HAPPY FRABJOUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ShadoFaxs
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Apr 25 2008, 2:50am
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Yup - I'm officially wetting myself ...
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Hellmistress
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Apr 25 2008, 2:55am
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Yes!!! Its Happening!!!
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Elven
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Apr 25 2008, 3:35am
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Welcome!
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Apr 25 2008, 3:35am
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Oh, thank you so much!
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Apr 25 2008, 3:38am
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Well, that's an eyeopener, and no mistake!
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a.s.
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Apr 25 2008, 3:46am
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Welcome!
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Nimloth
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Apr 25 2008, 4:42am
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brewing of ale and smoking of pipe weed
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Gethsemane
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Apr 25 2008, 5:00am
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Congratulations!
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Eldameldo
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Apr 25 2008, 5:28am
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Yippee!!! What a great day!
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Lady of Light
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Apr 25 2008, 5:33am
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Wonderful!
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Aerin
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Apr 25 2008, 5:34am
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Re: In exchange for the Riddle
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Ethelwynn
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Apr 25 2008, 5:40am
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Thank you, Mr. Del Toro!
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stormcrow20
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Apr 25 2008, 5:40am
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Congratulations & welcome to Middle-earth & TORn
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Daughter of Nienna
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Apr 25 2008, 5:48am
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Congratulations, Mr. Del Toro!
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 25 2008, 5:52am
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Congrats and Good Luck
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hobbitgoddess
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Apr 25 2008, 6:01am
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Congratulations to GDT
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Red5bv06
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Apr 25 2008, 6:16am
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My first impression of GDT...
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Messenjah
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Apr 25 2008, 6:46am
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Now *that* is a brilliant avatar!
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Ataahua
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Apr 25 2008, 7:25am
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Mae Govannen Guillermo!
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Beren
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Apr 25 2008, 7:38am
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Messenjah's Avatar
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BlueMan
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Apr 25 2008, 9:23am
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:)
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Nazguy
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Apr 25 2008, 9:29am
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Thanks, here's the full pic...
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Messenjah
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Apr 25 2008, 9:43am
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Very well done...
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mwirkk
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Apr 27 2008, 6:15am
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That was fun!
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labingi_maura
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Apr 25 2008, 7:21am
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Enjoy the ride
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Eregian
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Apr 25 2008, 7:41am
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Welcome!
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Hengist
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Apr 25 2008, 8:50am
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How exciting!!!
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Mishka
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Apr 25 2008, 8:51am
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WooHoo!!
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Earl
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Apr 25 2008, 9:18am
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Thank you very much sir
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RangerGirl
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Apr 25 2008, 9:47am
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Congratulations Mr Del Toro
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BrianBlessedIsThorinOakenshield
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Apr 25 2008, 10:42am
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Wonderful news, Mr. Del Toro!
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deej
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Apr 25 2008, 11:59am
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Oh, and if you are still looking for a Bilbo....
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deej
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Apr 25 2008, 12:03pm
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Second Breakfast?
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Malveth The Eternal
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Apr 25 2008, 12:08pm
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WOOHOO! Hope the breakfast was yummy and without flying apples! \\
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NottaSackville
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Apr 25 2008, 12:48pm
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A really good answer but many, many questions...
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Eowyn-Viktoria
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Apr 25 2008, 1:02pm
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Re: In exchange for the Riddle
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bidu
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Apr 25 2008, 1:05pm
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Welcome to
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sherlock
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Apr 25 2008, 1:17pm
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I'm over the moon!
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Lossefalme
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Apr 25 2008, 2:39pm
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We're so happy to have you!
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Menelwyn
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Apr 25 2008, 2:45pm
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Welcome!
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Darkstone
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Apr 25 2008, 2:51pm
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Felicidades Guillermo!
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tannhauser
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Apr 25 2008, 3:16pm
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FINALLY BACK AGAIN!!!!
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FrodoBagginsLives
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Apr 25 2008, 3:34pm
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I join in the chorus -- Thank you, sir!
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Eventides
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Apr 25 2008, 4:06pm
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This is MAGICAL!!!
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SirGandalf
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Apr 25 2008, 4:10pm
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Thank you very much!
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Jazmine
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Apr 25 2008, 4:25pm
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Finalmente...la cuenta regresiva comienza! Gracias maestro Del TOro ! ...from Tamaulipas- México
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Oscarilbo
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Apr 25 2008, 4:25pm
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Thank you so very much and welcome!
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Anarrima
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Apr 25 2008, 4:35pm
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Congratulations!
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lilacflower
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Apr 25 2008, 5:59pm
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Welcome to Middle Earth!
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Oden
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Apr 25 2008, 6:40pm
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desde el Hemisferio Sur
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Nerwen Altáriel
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Apr 25 2008, 6:59pm
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Oh wow!
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LightOfEarendil
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Apr 25 2008, 7:25pm
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Thanks!
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StriderKing
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Apr 25 2008, 9:00pm
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Welcome, Guillermo!
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Ettelewen
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Apr 25 2008, 9:52pm
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Just to reiterate...
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Nazgurl
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Apr 25 2008, 10:01pm
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Ian Holm is the only Bilbo Baggins
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Nazgul
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Apr 25 2008, 10:45pm
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Wishing you the best of Lucks:)
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nimthiriel
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Apr 25 2008, 10:49pm
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Welcome Aboard....remember to have some fun!
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Donry
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Apr 25 2008, 11:14pm
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Wonderful to have you here, Guillermo!!!
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mae govannen
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Apr 26 2008, 12:04am
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Greetings! Congratulations! Welcome!
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Miranduviel
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Apr 26 2008, 2:03pm
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How do I get those photos to show up?
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Miranduviel
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Apr 26 2008, 2:18pm
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Have you double-checked the size?
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Ataahua
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Apr 26 2008, 8:28pm
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inserting pictures
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Elrond Lover
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Apr 26 2008, 10:04pm
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Though
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 27 2008, 6:07am
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Re: Posting pictures
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Elrond Lover
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Apr 27 2008, 1:46pm
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Thanks
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 27 2008, 2:05pm
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Welcome Guillermo
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durfalas
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Apr 27 2008, 3:05pm
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Welcome Mr Del Toro
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Thorin Firehelm
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Apr 27 2008, 9:01pm
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Re/: In exchange for the Riddle
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Tampa Phil
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Apr 26 2008, 3:23pm
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Michael Bay??
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stormcrow20
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Apr 27 2008, 3:43am
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Dream come true
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Doriath
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Apr 26 2008, 5:59pm
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Dude, you rock....
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Glaurung63
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Apr 27 2008, 1:03am
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YESSS!!!!
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Elenedhel
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Apr 27 2008, 2:48am
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Oh. My. God!
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hanshotfirst1138
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Apr 27 2008, 10:31pm
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Congratulations, Gillermo!
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Nuradar
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Apr 28 2008, 12:26am
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Thanks...
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Gaffer Gamgee
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Apr 28 2008, 6:43am
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G. del Toro should have done LOTR too.
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ohtar77
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Apr 30 2008, 4:14am
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"or if you don't believe me read Roger Ebert's FotR review"
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MrCere
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Apr 30 2008, 11:13pm
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ian holm
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mordor89
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Oct 11 2008, 3:07am
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