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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 6:02am
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I'm not so sure animatronics is the right way to go for The Hobbit. [mwirkk] I can't fault you for your trepedation. But what about Jabba the Hutt? That's the best two-tonne talking slug *I've* ever seen on screen. ;P I haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth [mwirkk] You must! Get the deluxe edition so you can see Guillermo's interviews. What I really liked about PL was it's a fairie story, but it is not a Disney-fied version of one -- all the old-time brutality is there. ...somehow, my brain picks out patterns of movements from animatronics and puppets, even when well done, and totally removes me from the film. [mwirkk] That is sooooo true! Other things can take away the Suspension of Disbelief, though, with eqaully jolting effect, such as fat, fuzzy, little, blue space-elephants playing keyboards in the bar/cantina/lounge/whatever... Oh, wait a minute, that was an animatronic too. :) Yoda in Ep.I for instance, is much more distracting to me than CGI Yoda in Ep. II and III. [mwirkk] I liked Yoda in Ep.V. He was a cute little guy, getting into stuff, whacking miscreants with his little cane, using the Force to cheat at games of Pinochle... Didn't they use both animatronics and CGI for Treebeard? ... A few shots of Treebeard just looked way too mechanical. [mwirkk] I think that it was the right choice for the closeups with Treebeard's facial details. He had to have a mechanical, crackly, frictiony kind of texture and movement. His skin is made of bark, poor guy. Maybe the EntMaidens (whom are lost) have better complexions -- more like aspen, birch or alder. :) Compare him with the Balrog and Oliphaunts. [mwirkk] Now those would have been some big-4$%#&! animatronics! Pretty dangerous too, I'll bet. Especially when they light the Balrog on fire. Whatever they used for the Balrog, Oliphaunts, etc. is what should be used in The Hobbit, in my opinion. [mwirkk] Ya, what he said! (whatever=cgi) Don't think it's up to us, though. But I'm not worried, they'll make good decisions. :) Just think how those techniques have improved in the more than ten years that will have passed between these productions. [mwirkk] That's going to be one of the most anticipated aspects, me thinks. By us gearheads, anywayz. We'll be sitting there, just staring, and drooling... drooling... droo(oh! Er, sorry!) ... thinking about all the possibilities... things that they could go back and touch-up/fix from the first trilogy. Of course, if the wargs are the same as before, it's probably an all-hope-lost scenario for that ever happening. {Just kidding. A'little. I guess.} It should certainly be much much easier for them to do Gollum this time around. Not only have they done it before, but, as you say, the technology will be so much more advanced. However, if they decide to do a bunch of CGI characters in a long series of scenes (say, for example, most of the dwarves), I hope they think real hard about all options, because I was thoroughly unimpressed with the quality of the character animations in last years Beowulf, with Gerard Butler. ...except for Angelina Jolie, of course. ;) {Sorry, Imma oinker! ;P}
-mwirkk :)
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Time
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TORN's Exclusive Interview with Guillermo Del Toro
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calisuri
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Apr 25 2008, 1:45pm
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Wow!
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 25 2008, 1:58pm
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Sounds like they're going back to Matamata after all!
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L. Ron Halfelven
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Apr 25 2008, 2:01pm
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Who knows...
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dernwyn
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Apr 25 2008, 3:23pm
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That would be best of all.
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L. Ron Halfelven
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Apr 25 2008, 4:14pm
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And maybe this time ...
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BuckyUnderbelly
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Apr 25 2008, 4:22pm
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Mmm...
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Nazguy
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Apr 25 2008, 4:35pm
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Bucky....
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 11:18pm
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I'm afraid your probably right
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overlithe64
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May 10 2008, 11:27pm
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exactly! That would be amazing! Maybe if we ask very nicely...?!
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greendragon
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Apr 26 2008, 8:11pm
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Good point.
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deej
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Apr 25 2008, 3:46pm
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In which case you must be our spy, L.Ron. *snert*
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 11:38pm
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PANT PANT GASP
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Earl
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Apr 25 2008, 2:17pm
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Don't worry
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 25 2008, 2:28pm
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Ian Holm as Bilbo
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randallsadler
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Apr 25 2008, 5:31pm
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I wonder -
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BlueMan
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Apr 25 2008, 5:35pm
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I've been worried about this for a while...
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Telperion313
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Apr 26 2008, 1:45pm
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What I think on Bilbo
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maut
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Apr 26 2008, 2:17pm
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on the plumpness of hobbits
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randallsadler
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Apr 26 2008, 6:35pm
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hobbit age
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 27 2008, 8:36pm
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Bilbo Compromise?
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 27 2008, 8:08pm
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Thanks for the interview!
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JRandomRohirrim
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Apr 25 2008, 2:19pm
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NZ for a week - miss Oz and go straight to NZ
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UKKiwi
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Apr 27 2008, 6:24am
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Fantastic!
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Idril Celebrindal
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Apr 25 2008, 2:37pm
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So what do we call the "Second Filim" if not "the bridge film"?
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_V_
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Apr 25 2008, 2:47pm
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My thoughts and hopes
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merklynn
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Apr 25 2008, 3:03pm
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The White Council
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Unspoken_Request
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Apr 25 2008, 3:39pm
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You know ... since the first rumors of his involvement ...
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BuckyUnderbelly
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Apr 25 2008, 3:00pm
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I know what you mean...
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merklynn
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Apr 25 2008, 3:11pm
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Never sweeter words did I hear ...
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Elven
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Apr 25 2008, 3:07pm
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This day just keeps getting better.
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deej
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Apr 25 2008, 3:33pm
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So great!
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 25 2008, 3:34pm
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"from a different point of view"
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burrahobbit
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Apr 25 2008, 4:18pm
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Also....."lost scenes" from FOTR
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 11:25pm
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Okay, what the heck is the sprequel going to be about then?
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merklynn
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Apr 25 2008, 7:14pm
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Oh if it's in the Appendices...
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 25 2008, 9:26pm
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Filming content, extra's, 2nd film ...
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fingolfin_nc
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Apr 25 2008, 3:47pm
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Welcome!
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 25 2008, 3:51pm
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Huffington Post WRONG: They say that the two movies will BOTH be based on the book...
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jimdorey
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Apr 25 2008, 4:02pm
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Do they have the rights?...
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mwirkk
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Apr 25 2008, 7:36pm
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It's all speculation
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 25 2008, 9:21pm
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Two words I would pile on here...
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mwirkk
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Apr 25 2008, 7:49pm
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Chance for Sweet Revenge!?!
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mwirkk
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Apr 25 2008, 10:30pm
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the dvds will be handled with extra care
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ringers rock!
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Apr 26 2008, 1:16am
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Oh, here we go again!!!
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Mishka
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Apr 25 2008, 4:01pm
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This is MAGICAL!
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SirGandalf
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Apr 25 2008, 4:05pm
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Hmmm Im a little worried
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Hengist
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Apr 25 2008, 4:19pm
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Ha ha
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Radhruin
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Apr 25 2008, 5:01pm
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Yeah, the Wargs were one of my few disappointments with the Trilogy ...
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BuckyUnderbelly
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Apr 25 2008, 6:20pm
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Oo, Those Awful Wargs!
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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 2:50am
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well, so long as he remembers to keep in some breakdance fighting and shield surfing, we'll be fine...! //
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greendragon
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Apr 26 2008, 8:15pm
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Post deleted by Xoanon
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Guillermo
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Apr 26 2008, 11:45pm
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We trust - we trust!
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Nienna
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Apr 26 2008, 11:47pm
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bring on the monsters!
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DrawRide
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Apr 26 2008, 11:55pm
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Sir, you are an artist and a gentleman!
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greendragon
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Apr 26 2008, 11:56pm
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Bilbo
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orcbane
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Apr 26 2008, 11:57pm
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Quite the contrary-
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Guillermo
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Apr 27 2008, 12:03am
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No worries!
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N.E. Brigand
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Apr 27 2008, 12:09am
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RE: Quite the contrary
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Optimus Prime
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Apr 27 2008, 12:12am
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*hands GdT trust on a plate*
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Annael
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Apr 27 2008, 1:17am
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Hi there!
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figurefreaks
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Apr 27 2008, 1:41am
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My goodness!
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 2:10am
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Geez Louise, did I just write that?:)
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 2:29am
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It's true
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Kapoof
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Apr 27 2008, 3:14am
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Well, honestly....
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 3:35am
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PPS.
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 4:02am
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Well
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 27 2008, 5:47am
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*faints..THUNK*
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 3:20am
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Get back out of the box, Sunflower!
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 27 2008, 9:07pm
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Well...
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Sunflower
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Apr 27 2008, 9:48pm
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Rural spot indeed.
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 28 2008, 2:39am
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Eh....Shyikes.
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Sunflower
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Apr 28 2008, 3:05am
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He did talk about it.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Apr 28 2008, 4:16am
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Ya, Sunflower! What Dreamdeer said...
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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 6:27am
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Don't worry, Sunflower
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 27 2008, 5:40am
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You Have My Trust!
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Kapoof
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Apr 27 2008, 2:20am
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Thank you
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Telperion313
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Apr 27 2008, 3:31am
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Wow
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Finding Frodo
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Apr 27 2008, 3:45am
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Thank you
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KateTheHobbit
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Apr 27 2008, 5:15am
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Hello to the director himself
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Lost Hobbit
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Apr 27 2008, 11:55am
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Lovecraft?
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hanshotfirst1138
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Apr 28 2008, 1:41pm
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Of course-
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Guillermo
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Apr 29 2008, 1:30am
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Of Faerie.
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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 7:35am
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have a good journey in Middle Heart!
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marlonbrando76
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Apr 30 2008, 10:05am
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If you weren't already a great director...
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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 2:06am
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Blessings
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crolodot
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May 2 2008, 8:56pm
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Welcome...trusting...
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overlithe64
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May 10 2008, 11:21pm
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Hi I'm new to the boards.
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Lady_Eowyn
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Jun 25 2008, 3:39pm
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I admit I'm intrigued
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Ataahua
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Apr 27 2008, 12:18am
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Kia ora and haere mai!
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Kimi
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Apr 27 2008, 12:38am
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We've been waiting for you.
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 27 2008, 2:44am
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By the way
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 27 2008, 11:56am
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In New Zealand there is a Maori proverb which says:
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Starling
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Apr 27 2008, 4:09am
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The Hobbit 2
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Aragorn
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Apr 27 2008, 1:50pm
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'The Scouring of the Shire'
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Lost Hobbit
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Apr 27 2008, 8:10pm
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Re: The Scouring of the Shire
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Aragorn
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Apr 27 2008, 8:33pm
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that Worrisome Sequel...
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Mirabella_Bunce
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Apr 30 2008, 4:23pm
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Fran and Philippa...
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Rabittooth
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Apr 30 2008, 7:02pm
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Follow the storyline, GDT, and you've got me on your bandwagon....
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Keebler the Elf
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Apr 30 2008, 8:02pm
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Aspect Ratio?
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MadMatt
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Apr 30 2008, 11:20pm
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Sir, you brought tears to my eyes...
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 27 2008, 8:59pm
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Not everyone!
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 28 2008, 4:54am
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Animatronics? Hmm...
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burrahobbit
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Apr 25 2008, 4:41pm
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Wait and see...
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agutierrez20
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Apr 25 2008, 5:25pm
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Practical Effects
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Voorhas
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Apr 25 2008, 6:13pm
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Liked Pan's Labyrinth effects
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burrahobbit
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Apr 25 2008, 9:50pm
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True
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Voorhas
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Apr 26 2008, 3:18am
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Doug Jones
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Dreamdeer
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Apr 27 2008, 8:14pm
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Pan was "animatronic"
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 11:01pm
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I agree...I'm also skeptical of animatronics
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stormcrow20
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Apr 25 2008, 11:46pm
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Yeah but...but...uh...
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mwirkk
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Apr 29 2008, 6:02am
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I am SO glad I've listened to
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 25 2008, 4:51pm
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There and Back Again
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 25 2008, 5:38pm
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really BIG news!
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maut
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Apr 25 2008, 6:27pm
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Thunk! Wow oh wow oh wow!
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NottaSackville
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Apr 25 2008, 8:00pm
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WOW!
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labadal
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Apr 25 2008, 8:02pm
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My biggest concern now...
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mwirkk
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Apr 25 2008, 10:48pm
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*breaks open a box of Depends*
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Kyriel
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Apr 25 2008, 10:40pm
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Stoked
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Frodo Hoy
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Apr 25 2008, 11:09pm
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Geez, the man is becoming addicted to this place already?:)
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Sunflower
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Apr 25 2008, 11:31pm
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Who will be Elrond? *Fretting*
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Elrond Lover
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Apr 26 2008, 1:13am
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*awards prize for funniest avatar*
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Ataahua
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Apr 26 2008, 5:33am
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Comforting
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Forger
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Apr 26 2008, 9:27am
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Tee hee!
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Elrond Lover
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Apr 26 2008, 11:28am
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Great news!
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Dom
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Apr 26 2008, 12:25pm
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Welcome!
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Peredhil lover
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Apr 26 2008, 12:30pm
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GDT Director
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Shiredude
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Apr 26 2008, 1:32am
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GDT Hobbit Director
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Shiredude
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Apr 26 2008, 1:56am
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