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Arannir
Valinor
May 16 2014, 9:34am
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As I said in the other thread and the beginning of this one, it is really a pity that those extreme responses make it hard for those with balanced views to get their opinions across. That is the reason why some believe it is not allowed to say anything negative on here without getting into trouble - it is not (and at the same time making it hard for those with balanced positive opinions because they are then also labelled as fanboys). It is just some OTT reactions that stick out compared to the levelled responses. I am really a bit shocked the way some personally attacked Viggo Mortensen here, as well - and that was the worst part - people claiming only people who are "veiled,sneaky,and underhanded " would understand his comments. This is somewhat of a red line for me, to be honest. In defense of TORN, I have to say though, that the reactions elsewhere are even more brutal - in both directions (people bashing VM for his comments, people applauding and at the same time totally dissing PJ). This is why I hope this thread remains open un-edited because I feel like the community should handle such situations with levelled debate. The users with balanced views usually dominate this place and despite some of the camp-fights - especially in the wake of the DoS release - have already gone back to interesting arguing because - in the end - friendliness, politeness and reason are strong among the community here. Something not too common on the internet, sadly. Something worth defending.
“All good stories deserve embellishment." Praise is subjective. And so is criticism. "I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."
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New Viggo Mortensen interview on the "mess" that was Rings
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The Grey Pilgrim
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May 14 2014, 5:05pm
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I don't see anything really bad
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Elessar
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May 14 2014, 5:26pm
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I'm not sure he's saying stuff that some of us didn't already know... or suspect
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Magpie
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May 14 2014, 5:32pm
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I could not agree with you any more than I do right now.//
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Kangi Ska
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May 15 2014, 9:31pm
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I appreciate your comments, Magpie....
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Morthoron
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May 16 2014, 3:56am
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Actually, I think Viggo is spot on here...
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Elwen
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May 14 2014, 5:38pm
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Ironically...
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Darkstone
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May 14 2014, 5:53pm
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I will always respect Viggo as an actor...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 14 2014, 10:50pm
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I think it sounds worse than it really is
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demnation
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May 14 2014, 11:13pm
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ROTK and TTT would not have been able to be
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Annatar598
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May 15 2014, 4:18am
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Character study...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 15 2014, 5:03am
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Exactly, FOTR only lays the groundwork for future character development
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Annatar598
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May 15 2014, 5:09am
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FotR...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 15 2014, 5:19am
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Although...
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Arannir
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May 15 2014, 10:09am
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oh wow... mods way up
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Magpie
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May 15 2014, 11:59am
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A bit unfair, I think
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demnation
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May 15 2014, 12:50pm
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That is extremely rude.
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bungobaggins
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May 15 2014, 2:52pm
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I admire and appreciate straightforward
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:16pm
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?
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Arannir
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May 15 2014, 3:18pm
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I am 100% serious, yes.
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:22pm
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Viggo has a right to his opinion
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Otaku-sempai
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May 15 2014, 8:17pm
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and Eastern Promises.
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SirDennisC
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May 16 2014, 12:12am
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for some reason, Netflix doesn't have Alatriste.
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Magpie
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May 16 2014, 12:21am
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Applause from me to Annatar and Necromancer
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Avandel
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May 15 2014, 9:44pm
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Thank you.
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NecromancerRising
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May 16 2014, 12:18pm
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Reposted from main
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SirDennisC
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May 15 2014, 4:36am
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I like how you put it, SirD
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Magpie
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May 15 2014, 11:57am
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Who’s Vitto Morgenstein anyway? OOoops: Book-firster here…Wrong forum
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Bracegirdle
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May 15 2014, 1:02pm
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That's the way of the artist.
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Darkstone
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May 15 2014, 1:33pm
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I partially agree with Him
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malickfan
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May 15 2014, 2:36pm
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For the other thread...
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Arannir
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May 15 2014, 2:37pm
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I knew that Sean Austin
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:34pm
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There are a lot of reviews around that sum up what he writes about.
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Arannir
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May 15 2014, 3:35pm
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Thanks Arannir!
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:39pm
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Sean Astin also loved the Hobbit movies
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Annatar598
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May 15 2014, 3:38pm
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I know Annatar.
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:41pm
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But since you have such a strong opinion on Viggo Mortensen's feelings...
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Arannir
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May 15 2014, 3:43pm
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I do not think my opinion
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:49pm
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Was about to reply on the Hobbit-board.
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Macfeast
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May 15 2014, 3:19pm
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Popcorn, anyone?
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BlackFox
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May 15 2014, 3:31pm
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Oh dear...
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NecromancerRising
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May 15 2014, 3:36pm
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My, you're catching up on all the tropes!
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sador
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May 15 2014, 3:47pm
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I was thinking
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wonderinglinguist
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May 15 2014, 3:53pm
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Yum!
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Darkstone
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May 15 2014, 3:55pm
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Can I have some of that to take with me tonight to Godzilla?
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tsmith675
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May 15 2014, 3:55pm
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Sure!
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BlackFox
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May 15 2014, 4:02pm
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You're the best!!!
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tsmith675
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May 15 2014, 4:04pm
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BlackFox, at your service! //
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BlackFox
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May 15 2014, 4:06pm
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I am quite disappointed - Viggo & Sean Astin (Absolutely agree with these posts from a prior thread)
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ltnjmy
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May 15 2014, 6:27pm
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I can see where you are coming from Itnjmy
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malickfan
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May 15 2014, 6:52pm
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Sean Astin...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 15 2014, 7:07pm
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what editing choices did he disagree with?
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FrogmortonJustice65
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May 16 2014, 3:09am
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He didn't like...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 16 2014, 3:32am
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He took his family to DOS' premiere
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Annatar598
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May 19 2014, 12:59am
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*In my prior post I replied to you but I now realise you were reposting to Necro's and tsmith's answers from a prior thread
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malickfan
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May 15 2014, 7:17pm
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i think I might be missing something.
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Dcole4
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May 15 2014, 9:18pm
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LOL I want some raisinets
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Avandel
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May 15 2014, 11:36pm
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Don't disagree on all...
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Dipling
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May 15 2014, 3:49pm
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CGI
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swampB
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May 15 2014, 4:28pm
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I wouldn't read too much into this.
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FrogmortonJustice65
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May 15 2014, 5:00pm
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Well now that I've read it
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Kilidoescartwheels
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May 15 2014, 5:14pm
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Still, I wish VM had dialed it back
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Avandel
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May 16 2014, 12:00am
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I have no problem with that assessment
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fingolfin_nc
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May 15 2014, 5:25pm
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7
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haarp
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May 15 2014, 5:57pm
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A comment fro Bruce Hopkins (Gamling).
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Ataahua
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May 15 2014, 7:40pm
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Exactly!
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Elessar
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May 15 2014, 8:04pm
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Thanks, Ataahua
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Magpie
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May 15 2014, 10:05pm
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A comment from Costa Botes
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Kristin Thompson
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May 16 2014, 3:16am
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Thanks, Kristin. - again, it's really good to hear from people on this matter //
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Magpie
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May 16 2014, 3:23am
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Thanks for sharing that follow up...
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Elwen
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May 16 2014, 3:01pm
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a thought came to me last night
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Magpie
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May 16 2014, 3:18pm
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Not only would such a person be difficult to respect...
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Elwen
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May 16 2014, 5:38pm
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The title that the newspaper chose for this article should be a clue about the biased editing
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Elarie
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May 15 2014, 7:49pm
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Exactly
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Kelvarhin
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May 16 2014, 1:30am
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I was looking for this Elijah Wood quote earlier...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 15 2014, 8:13pm
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Peter Jackson wanted CGI black riders
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Bishop
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May 15 2014, 9:58pm
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That's the sort of thing that I'm glad he didn't have the budget for...
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Elwen
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May 16 2014, 3:14pm
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Yes, completely agree with this
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Glorfindela
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May 16 2014, 4:58pm
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Jackson would have to be delusional to be offended that some of his actors share the opinion of his CGI that most/many critics seem to
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Nevrast
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May 16 2014, 3:06am
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Wow
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Escapist
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May 16 2014, 3:33am
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Agree with you 100%, Escapist. //
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CuriousG
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May 21 2014, 12:19pm
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Viggo speaks sense....and I don't see him offending anyone?
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Sildarion~Valenar
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May 16 2014, 4:59am
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I couldn't agree more...
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Eleniel
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May 16 2014, 6:41am
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Agreed
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Arannir
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May 16 2014, 9:34am
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Indeed.
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Macfeast
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May 16 2014, 10:53am
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The digital age
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Escapist
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May 16 2014, 11:33am
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I couldn't agree with him more.
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sauget.diblosio
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May 16 2014, 12:20pm
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If he had made these comments about just The Hobbit films...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 16 2014, 12:46pm
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You know
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Glorfindela
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May 16 2014, 4:55pm
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I don't think CG is easier/cheaper than good actors
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Magpie
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May 16 2014, 5:08pm
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Yes, I think this make sense
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Glorfindela
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May 16 2014, 5:38pm
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To be honest, if I had the capability to use CG environments...
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Bofur01
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May 16 2014, 5:41pm
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CGI environments are best in other ways too.
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Darkstone
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May 16 2014, 5:55pm
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I hadn't knnown that.
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Ataahua
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May 16 2014, 9:09pm
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Oh, I know, Darkstone...
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Patty
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May 20 2014, 7:56pm
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I forgot about this one...
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cats16
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May 20 2014, 7:58pm
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And Mortensen almost drowning in TTT.
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Darkstone
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May 20 2014, 8:18pm
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Nay, nay
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Starling
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May 21 2014, 6:07am
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Pain is temporary...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 21 2014, 6:10am
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Sense Of Balance
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 16 2014, 9:36pm
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Hmm...
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BlackFox
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May 16 2014, 9:47pm
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Change
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 16 2014, 10:08pm
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Who's to say what a "good reason" is?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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May 16 2014, 10:24pm
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Good Reasons
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 16 2014, 10:36pm
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Well...
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BlackFox
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May 16 2014, 10:38pm
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'Any change' is not bad
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Glorfindela
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May 16 2014, 11:01pm
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In response
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BlackFox
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May 17 2014, 7:58am
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Please explain
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Sildarion~Valenar
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May 17 2014, 11:09am
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I'm not the one you should be asking this
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BlackFox
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May 17 2014, 1:11pm
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Oh sorry
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Sildarion~Valenar
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May 17 2014, 1:17pm
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I would imagine the change...
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Rohirrim Rider
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May 17 2014, 1:18pm
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Well put! //
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BlackFox
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May 17 2014, 1:34pm
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Writing 101
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 17 2014, 2:54pm
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None taken
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shadowdog
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May 17 2014, 10:04pm
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I assume
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Silverlode
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May 17 2014, 10:57pm
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Line Change
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Laineth
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May 20 2014, 11:05pm
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Nothing new, Viggo!
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Bernhardina
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May 16 2014, 7:22pm
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I agree on Viggo being entitled to his opinion and some people here being really rude towards him, as I posted before.
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Arannir
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May 16 2014, 8:33pm
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Not surprisingly...
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Salmacis81
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May 16 2014, 9:40pm
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Not sure what exactly you mean...
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Arannir
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May 16 2014, 10:15pm
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Yes...
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Salmacis81
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May 16 2014, 10:31pm
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Sorry.
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Arannir
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May 16 2014, 11:03pm
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100% agree with Viggo
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Intergalactic Lawman
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May 17 2014, 6:50am
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But, that's not what Viggo said
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Altaira
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May 17 2014, 1:57pm
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Character
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 17 2014, 2:44pm
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Very well and nicely put.
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Arannir
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May 17 2014, 3:24pm
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Thank you for straightening this out, Altaira,
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mae govannen
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May 20 2014, 11:30am
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I love this Viggo story
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Darkstone
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May 20 2014, 1:56pm
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thanks for that //
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Magpie
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May 20 2014, 2:24pm
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Thanks for this.
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Arannir
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May 20 2014, 2:34pm
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It is just so much easier ...
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Magpie
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May 20 2014, 5:00pm
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100% agreed.
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Arannir
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May 20 2014, 5:32pm
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This is where disagreements occur
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shadowdog
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May 17 2014, 9:58pm
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Is it really not clear to you
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R11
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May 18 2014, 8:37pm
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Um...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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May 18 2014, 10:49pm
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this does not bother me...
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Bard'sBlackArrow
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May 18 2014, 6:51pm
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well...
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Oscarilbo
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May 19 2014, 8:57pm
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Didn't Viggo also refuse appearing in The Hobbit?
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mae govannen
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May 20 2014, 12:18pm
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He did?
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Arannir
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May 20 2014, 12:22pm
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It was probably so,
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mae govannen
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May 20 2014, 12:36pm
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IIRC it was when a bridge movie was still on the table
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SirDennisC
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May 20 2014, 2:01pm
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"Viggo ‘Turned Down’ Role as Aragorn? Not so fast…"
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Magpie
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May 20 2014, 2:23pm
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That settles it then. He said yes, if it makes sense
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SirDennisC
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May 20 2014, 2:40pm
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Weird. He said the exact opposite last year.
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Darkstone
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May 20 2014, 8:29pm
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Viggo...
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NecromancerRising
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May 20 2014, 8:41pm
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So did he strangle Stuart Townsend for the ring?
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Darkstone
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May 20 2014, 8:47pm
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Now that you mention it,
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NecromancerRising
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May 20 2014, 8:53pm
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It seemed in the SEE appendices Viggo was the one who held things
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VeArkenstone
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May 22 2014, 8:24pm
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I really don't find VM's comments ...
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MadgeBishop
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May 23 2014, 12:50am
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I agree with you about Viggo's comments Madge
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ElendilTheShort
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May 23 2014, 9:55pm
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Single biggest annoying thing about the original trilogy for me...
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sauget.diblosio
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May 23 2014, 10:32pm
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I do totally agree with your comments about the Trilogy, FOTR is the best,
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VeArkenstone
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May 27 2014, 7:58pm
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I disagree.
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The Foehammer
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May 29 2014, 12:41am
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Cadence
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 29 2014, 1:04am
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Interesting.
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The Foehammer
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May 29 2014, 1:53am
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for better or worse depending on individual opinions
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ElendilTheShort
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May 29 2014, 11:19am
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It's not the CGI per se...
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MadgeBishop
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May 30 2014, 12:24am
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Refreshing to hear this
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cats16
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May 30 2014, 12:29am
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THIS
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J Pierpont Flathead
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May 30 2014, 1:51am
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I need to go watch them all again consecutively
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The Foehammer
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May 30 2014, 4:09am
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