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It's been indicated that the father/son dynamic

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Nov 13 2013, 2:17pm


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includes Thorin/Thrain. And, although PJ may have intended to have Azog/Bolg, I get the feeling he has changed his mind.

Thorin can't be killed by Azog or Bolg on the battlefield because he survives long enough to make his famous speech (in the medical tent, as depicted by Tolkien?) I, for one, (and doubtless the majority of the audience) will want to see Thorin get his revenge and kill Azog. I expect to see a spectacular fight after Fili and Kili are killed when Thorin kills Azog but is badly wounded. Beorn will come and rescue him from the battlefield, as in the book, and he and Bilbo will talk to each other in some quiet spot.

Why do you want the complete failure of Thorin? Because he has a short beard? Because he isn't played by some other favoured actor? Because he could be seen to fail in the book? Because you just don't like him and want your revenge? Because you really like Azog? Because people fail, just like in real life?

The rest of us are ordinary mortals who think that Thorin suffers enough and deserves just one, small reward.

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Mo-capped Manu ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 12:32pm
    I agree that not enough credit is being given to Manu. Boromir Stark Send a private message to Boromir Stark Nov 13 2013, 12:47pm
    I saw Manu at some event (on screen) Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Nov 13 2013, 12:51pm
    Well said! LordotRings93 Send a private message to LordotRings93 Nov 13 2013, 12:53pm
    They kinda have to bring Bolg into these films Azaghâl Send a private message to Azaghâl Nov 13 2013, 1:39pm
        What dynamic? arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 1:42pm
            Airthmancer, I replied to your comment in the AUJ changes thread with the same thing: Boromir Stark Send a private message to Boromir Stark Nov 13 2013, 2:25pm
                Brother, AUJ EE material *spoilers?* arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 5:09pm
        I am sure he will be in it. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Nov 13 2013, 1:44pm
            Agreed. arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 1:47pm
            It's been indicated that the father/son dynamic ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 2:17pm
                I don't know... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 13 2013, 2:38pm
                I would say... droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Nov 13 2013, 7:49pm
    Two things... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 13 2013, 2:07pm
        Bolg replacing Azog Shirriff Anthony Send a private message to Shirriff Anthony Nov 13 2013, 2:32pm
            I disagree, Shirriff Anthony. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 3:00pm
        This... sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 3:05pm
            Gosh, s.b, you make one little joke ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 3:26pm
                Well, like i said, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 3:56pm
            EE extras (*spoilers?*) arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 4:55pm
        Hmm... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 4:40pm
            Though there would be less motive on Thorin's side... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 13 2013, 5:07pm
                No argument from me! arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 5:25pm
                    Present but not correct? Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 13 2013, 5:43pm
                        "needlessly" arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 6:23pm
                        You're absolutely right. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 9:47pm
            I'd probably just leave it out. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 9:29pm
                I really don't understand ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 10:20pm
                    Necessity of three films... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 13 2013, 11:12pm
                Well... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Nov 13 2013, 10:45pm
                    azog DjU Send a private message to DjU Nov 13 2013, 11:21pm
                        Really? (I've not got the EE yet!) Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 14 2013, 7:48am
                            Agreed starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 14 2013, 7:50am
    Well, for me anyway, the actor is part of the problem. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 3:00pm
        Sauget.diblosio, ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 3:18pm
            I didn't say anything about sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 13 2013, 3:39pm
                You were talking about LotR, s.d, ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 13 2013, 4:00pm
                    There is Another Angle to This... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 13 2013, 4:52pm
                        It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk... Eruvandi Send a private message to Eruvandi Nov 13 2013, 7:43pm
        I quite liked the performance starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 14 2013, 6:21am
    For me... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Nov 13 2013, 5:56pm
    My first reaction to Azog and co Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui Nov 13 2013, 7:04pm
    I love, love love Manu's performance as Azog MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Nov 13 2013, 7:09pm

 
 
 

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