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Oct 23 2013, 11:37pm

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What does surprise me is that this seems to be new to you.

You mean... you're surprised that particular piece of music seems new to me? Why would that surprise you. I am familiar with Mike Oldfield but he was never anyone I listened to. I'm not even sure what progressive rock is but I'm pretty sure I don't listen to it. There is whole masses of music I don't listen to. And there's whole bunches of music I do listen to.

If you mean you're surprised no one else has noticed, then that's a different story. But don't take my list of similar sounding music to be some sort of complete list or the lack of any one piece of music to mean that no one has noticed. It may be they just didn't email me when they noticed. And, at some point, I just stopped adding new pieces because I was being very thorough and methodical about how I handled the suggestions and I didn't have the time - or perhaps the inclination - to follow up in suggestion number 32. :-)

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I don't know if I would call it a coincidence - Howard Shore might have heard this and forgotten all about it, but subconsciously recalled it when composing the score. Those things happen.

Impossible to prove a negative. Doug says that Howard says he was not referencing any music other than Wagner. Unless you get a chance to meet Shore some day and ask if he's familiar with Oldfield or ask him to deny that he's ever heard it somewhere at some point, all we've got to go with is that Wagner thing.

And really, what would we try to prove by saying Shore must have been or even might have been influenced? We're influenced by all sorts of things and just like Tolkien was sourcing from some of the older tales like other authors were, Shore is sourcing from existing motifs and chord structures like lots of other composers are. I always find that fact that all these people use the same motif to indicate that the motif itself is a powerful thing... a thing that endures over time, (perhaps) jumps across geographical or cultural boarders and infuses all our lives in ways we may not be consciously aware of. I am way less likely to think that all the artists/creators are merely repeating what each other have done.

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Subject	User	Time
A question regarding the music score	sador	Oct 22 2013, 10:14am
I'm a musician	Bishop	Oct 22 2013, 1:54pm
Cool, me too	Ziggy Stardust	Oct 25 2013, 12:47am
Yes, there are similarities	Endor Dweller	Oct 22 2013, 2:34pm
Right	Bishop	Oct 22 2013, 3:20pm
Yes, that's what I've meant.	sador	Oct 23 2013, 4:34pm
It is similar to the Gondor theme	Magpie	Oct 22 2013, 11:53pm
I was hoping you'ld answer.	sador	Oct 23 2013, 4:42pm
hmmm	Magpie	Oct 23 2013, 11:37pm
I'm familiar with prog-rock!	Ziggy Stardust	Oct 25 2013, 12:51am
Agree, music is awesome.	Bishop	Oct 25 2013, 1:15am
Yes, it is	Ziggy Stardust	Oct 29 2013, 12:29am
back on topic	dijomaja	Nov 2 2013, 10:45am
X Marks the Spot	Doug Adams	Nov 14 2013, 5:39pm

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