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demnation
Rohan
Oct 21 2013, 7:34am
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for the most part. I remain unconvinced by many in the pro and anti Tolkien camps (generally speaking), and this article is no different. I long ago decided the the only "truths" I can know are what I observe for myself, and every time I open LOTR or The Silmarillion I see work that is far more nuanced than it is often given credit for. Far from being mere adventure stories, I find much of the Middle-earth saga to be a deep and thoughtful meditation on the consequences, wastefulness and futility of war for all involved. (and a myriad of other things besides)
"In the beginning the Universe was created.This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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There's more to fantasy than the elves and orcs of Tolkien
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demnation
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Oct 20 2013, 10:33am
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Hmmmmmm
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Bombadil21
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Oct 20 2013, 11:54pm
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Naughty Guardian
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IdrilofGondolin
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Oct 21 2013, 12:29am
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I agree with your point on the orcs
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Kalimac
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Oct 21 2013, 1:08am
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Fair to say that Tolkien's approach to fantasy is neither best nor worst
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 21 2013, 1:07am
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I get what you are saying
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demnation
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Oct 21 2013, 2:13am
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Martinīs work also contains idealists
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elostirion74
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Oct 25 2013, 8:20pm
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Tolkiens good versus evil is not simple
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 21 2013, 6:57am
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Agreed
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demnation
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Oct 21 2013, 7:34am
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Spot on Elendil
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 21 2013, 6:27pm
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Yes the exmples of characters and races you refer to are good.
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 21 2013, 10:39pm
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we will have to agree to disagree here
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 21 2013, 10:46pm
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Evil vs. evil
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CuriousG
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Oct 21 2013, 10:53pm
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Here is the exact quote from the Silmarillion calling Melkor more evil
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 22 2013, 2:32am
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to me that sounds like
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Maciliel
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Oct 22 2013, 3:04am
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you could take it that way...
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 22 2013, 3:19am
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I had exactly the same point of view to you with respect to what is evidenced in Tolkien's writing
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 22 2013, 3:17am
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Melkor was the anarchist and Sauron was the bureaucrat then!
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Oct 22 2013, 11:04pm
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These aren't my thoughts I am putting forward but Tolkiens writing.
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 22 2013, 12:40am
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Here is your quote from his letters and how I think we are talking past each other
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 22 2013, 3:01am
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simul posts
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 22 2013, 3:32am
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The Ring has one redeeming feature, making it not wholly evil.
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squire
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Oct 22 2013, 4:04am
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It is part of Tolkien's mythos
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Elciryamo
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Oct 22 2013, 6:08am
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Since you mentioned it...
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 22 2013, 3:49pm
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Good and Evil in Arda...
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 21 2013, 6:29pm
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Looking forward to it Ranger!//
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elaen32
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Oct 21 2013, 7:43pm
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well
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elostirion74
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Oct 24 2013, 5:03am
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