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Salmacis81
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Oct 18 2013, 9:20pm


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...if anything, AUJ needed to be shorter by about 20 minutes. Don't get me wrong, I was enjoying myself in the theater, and could have sat for another hour watching, but I think there was a whole lot in AUJ that should have been saved for the EE (especially sections of the stone giants, Goblin-town, and as much as I hate to say it, Bag-End).

I thought the LotR EEs were vastly superior to the TEs in just about every way, and I loved getting the EEs right before the next film released, as it rekindled my interest in the previous film. No, I didn't like the Gandalf/Witch-king scene too much, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it bothers you.

Anyway, I think there's a huge difference in comparing LotR EEs with TH EEs. I think LotR warranted 3 films (probably more like 4 or 5), I don't feel TH does.


(This post was edited by Salmacis81 on Oct 18 2013, 9:28pm)

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Rumor: TDOS running time 156 minutes Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 18 2013, 7:55pm
    If its shorter Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 18 2013, 8:01pm
        NOOOOOOOOOOOO Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 8:14pm
            No proof for that at all. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 18 2013, 8:28pm
                There may not be proof, but I think, if it is true, there the suspiscion is a sound one. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 18 2013, 8:59pm
        Also means that the EE might be longer than just 13 minutes... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 18 2013, 8:21pm
            wb Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 8:28pm
                If 156 minutes is accurate... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 18 2013, 8:32pm
                    i want pjs film Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 8:36pm
                        How do you know this ISN'T "pjs film"? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 18 2013, 8:41pm
                            pj does not make middle earth films SHORTER than their predecessors Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 8:45pm
                                The story is already being stretched out enough as it is... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 18 2013, 8:55pm
                                That running time sounds realistic Fleuz Send a private message to Fleuz Oct 18 2013, 8:55pm
                                He doesn't? Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 18 2013, 9:40pm
                                    Agree Skaan Send a private message to Skaan Oct 18 2013, 9:55pm
                                        i dont care how long it is Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 10:11pm
                            The problem with the "more for extended" arguement, is that sometimes putting aside hurts the main film AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 18 2013, 9:05pm
                                I feel that... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 18 2013, 9:20pm
                                    Agreement and disagreement points. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 18 2013, 9:53pm
                                        Bag-End Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 19 2013, 3:07pm
                            Absolutely... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 19 2013, 10:14am
                                Whats in it is what matters, but we cannot pretend that running length does not effect what is in it AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 2:11pm
                                    As someone who likes the EEs much better anyway... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 19 2013, 2:53pm
                                    About EE Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Oct 20 2013, 2:38pm
                                        Praise where it is due, criticism where it is due. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 2:51pm
                    If that includes the credits. If it doesn't, and is just film content time, they are almost exactly AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 2:04pm
                        Running time... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 19 2013, 2:25pm
            Very true :) Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 18 2013, 9:20pm
    I find it hard to believe that there would be pressure from WB... Misty Mountain Hop Send a private message to Misty Mountain Hop Oct 18 2013, 8:45pm
    It's already been suggested DoS would be a shorter, snappier movie sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Oct 18 2013, 8:52pm
        phylippa boyens is not pj Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 8:57pm
    Sounds like a pretty good length to me dubulous Send a private message to dubulous Oct 18 2013, 8:55pm
    Sounds a reasonable time./ FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Oct 18 2013, 9:25pm
    My reaction at the end of AUJ was 'Is that it?' Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Oct 18 2013, 10:28pm
    2 hours and 36 minutes is a perfectly good running time, imo. MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Oct 18 2013, 10:31pm
        so u dont care that wb has CLEARLY INTERFERED HERE Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 10:34pm
            Nothing is clear, really. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 18 2013, 10:41pm
            Yeah, because a movie that's longer than the majority of blockbusters... MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Oct 18 2013, 10:47pm
                all 3 films were sposed to be the same length (or prob longer taba) Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 10:52pm
                    Says who? Skaan Send a private message to Skaan Oct 18 2013, 10:59pm
                        why would pj make this film shorter? Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 11:02pm
                            the edit button disappeared sorry Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 11:19pm
                            You do know that PJ "shortened" the LOTR movies too? Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 18 2013, 11:36pm
                                he didnt make ttt and rotk OVER TEN shorter than fotr Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 11:46pm
                                    Maybe you should prove that it's a wb move. ;) // Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 18 2013, 11:47pm
                                        why would dos be shorter than auj with so much more going on Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 18 2013, 11:51pm
                                            I don't know Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 18 2013, 11:55pm
                                                Good on the studios!!! lol. My basic policy in these matters, give credit where it is due and caustic AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 12:00am
                                                    i wont sleep soundly Gollum's_Apprentice Send a private message to Gollum's_Apprentice Oct 19 2013, 12:14am
                                                        But... Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Oct 19 2013, 3:54am
                                                            Can't agree about EE. Twas true with Fellowship, and maybe with An Unexpected, HOWEVER ROTK AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 5:54am
                                                                Just out of curiosity, Joe20 Send a private message to Joe20 Oct 19 2013, 6:01am
                                                                    Well, Aragorn killing The Mouth was an unlikely turn, but the WORST was The Witch King and Gandalf. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 6:44am
                                                                    Personally, I adore all the extended cuts. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Oct 19 2013, 6:52am
                                                                        I have never touched extended ROTK once since that viscerally offensive experience. I quite enjoy AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 1:57pm
                                                                        I thought most people preferred the theatrical cuts? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Oct 19 2013, 2:05pm
                                                                            EE For Me Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 19 2013, 2:14pm
                                                                                Definitive paired with ROTK EE is a notion that causes a mild stroke for me. lol AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 2:17pm
                                                                                    Of two minds Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 19 2013, 2:33pm
                                                                                    Thoughts on the RotK EE... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 19 2013, 2:44pm
                                                                                        Here we differ. ( I didn't like the Saruman/Wheel foolishness at ALL either though), I would rather a thing AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 1:25am
                                                                                            I know this will not help you... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 20 2013, 9:40am
                                                                                                That's an interesting take on it.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 20 2013, 10:22am
                                                                                                    Yes... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 20 2013, 11:09am
                                                                                                    I think that is a fair assumption, but I don't think it is one a lot of moviegoers would catch. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 2:29pm
                                                                                                        No, I don't suppose they would... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 20 2013, 3:15pm
                                                                                                            Gandalf v Morgul Lord Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 20 2013, 3:51pm
                                                                                                                The problem with that is that it doesn't stand to reason. For one thing, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 4:56pm
                                                                                                                    I don't know Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 20 2013, 6:03pm
                                                                                                            Makes sense. Good call. I, for my part, just watch the movie wherein it never happens. lol AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 4:44pm
                                                                                                    I've always seen it as a reflection of these words of Tolkien's Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 20 2013, 2:44pm
                                                                                                        Agreed. Funny thing, I was actually very much looking forward to the scene... AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 2:59pm
                                                                            I find the extended of Fellowship is a better film than the theatrical, and better explains what is happening to any neophytes AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 19 2013, 2:14pm
                                                                                RoTK EE Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Oct 19 2013, 9:39pm
                                                                                    heheheh. I hope you aren't sensitive to profanity and vulgar exclamations. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 1:28am
                                                                                        Just curious Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 20 2013, 1:48am
                                                                                            Yes. I don't need anything that doesn't happen. That wold be fine, as long as they AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 20 2013, 2:50am
                                                                            Theatical cuts have become Reader's Digest versions for me... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Oct 19 2013, 2:27pm
                                                                            Not me... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 19 2013, 2:41pm
                                                                            My experience is... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 19 2013, 5:13pm
                                                                                I actually Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 19 2013, 10:05pm
                                                                TTT was much better as EE as well Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 19 2013, 6:19am
                                    No Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 18 2013, 11:50pm
                    Peter Jackson said that AUJ would be the longest of the three as did Boyens QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Oct 19 2013, 2:09pm
    I hope this rumor is false Peterthorn of Rohan Send a private message to Peterthorn of Rohan Oct 19 2013, 8:23am
        It does seem very early Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Oct 19 2013, 9:06am
    Whats In Whats next Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Oct 19 2013, 10:01am
    This doesn't surprise me. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 19 2013, 3:18pm

 
 
 

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