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You think one troll wouldn't have been capable of killing Bilbo?

dormouse
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Oct 9 2013, 1:13pm


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You think one troll wouldn't have been capable of killing Bilbo? [In reply to] Can't Post

There's nothing inherently wrong with the scene as it was played. They all put up the fight which only Thorin attempts in the book. And have to stop when any further resistance, even an escape attempt, would result in Bilbo being killed.

The scene in the book, on the other hand, with dwarves turning up one at a time and being bundled up one at a time, and only Bifur and Bombur (I think) putting up a fight which isn't described, and Thorin putting up a fight which is, is great fun in the book, but could become very tedious onscreen.

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The thing that bothers me most about PJ's approach frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 8 2013, 2:03pm
    I must say none of the things mentioned in your first four points bother me Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Oct 8 2013, 2:09pm
        I suspect most people would agree with you frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 8 2013, 2:11pm
        It really does rankle Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Oct 9 2013, 12:34am
    The only thing that rankles me about the movies.. Patty Send a private message to Patty Oct 8 2013, 2:34pm
        Biggest Problem IMHO Radagast's Lead Bunny Send a private message to Radagast's Lead Bunny Oct 8 2013, 3:39pm
        I sort of agree Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Oct 8 2013, 3:45pm
            Sometimes it's the little things that rankle more than the large things for me… Patty Send a private message to Patty Oct 8 2013, 3:53pm
                Oh, I've never appreciated gross stuff like that Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Oct 8 2013, 4:01pm
                    Gross. That's the right word for it. Patty Send a private message to Patty Oct 8 2013, 4:03pm
    The Usual Suspects JWPlatt Oct 8 2013, 4:17pm
        I agree, but... frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 8 2013, 4:23pm
            Change for the sake of change JWPlatt Oct 8 2013, 4:27pm
                Exactly! frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 8 2013, 4:41pm
    Bilbo & Gollum Kilidoescartwheels Send a private message to Kilidoescartwheels Oct 8 2013, 5:13pm
    The Difference Between Writing and Film DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Oct 8 2013, 6:01pm
        I am a filmmaker frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 8 2013, 6:19pm
            Possibility vs Necessity DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Oct 9 2013, 3:05am
                I respect your opinion... frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 9 2013, 1:42pm
                    The Trolls: classic no-win situation DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Oct 9 2013, 2:24pm
                        I agree about the dwarves frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 9 2013, 2:32pm
                        Sounds about right. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 9 2013, 2:43pm
                        As I mentioned above... RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Oct 9 2013, 4:10pm
                            I do not think so. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 9 2013, 4:18pm
                    Changes and excuses... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Oct 9 2013, 4:22pm
                        I said something similar so I will respond. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 9 2013, 4:32pm
                        This was also a motivation for Goblin Town changes DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Oct 9 2013, 4:44pm
            What films have you worked on?// Owain Send a private message to Owain Oct 9 2013, 4:02am
    What bothers me most is the second half of the troll scene Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 8 2013, 6:10pm
        The troll scene Kilidoescartwheels Send a private message to Kilidoescartwheels Oct 8 2013, 8:46pm
            But Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 8 2013, 8:54pm
                Because they thought it was funny maybe? imin Send a private message to imin Oct 8 2013, 9:09pm
                Because in those circumstances.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 8 2013, 10:13pm
                    Agreed. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 8 2013, 10:23pm
                        It was comic in the book, yes. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Oct 8 2013, 10:54pm
                    Troll scene Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 8 2013, 11:01pm
                        Yes Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 8 2013, 11:24pm
                        Especially considering the line in the new DoS trailer duats Send a private message to duats Oct 9 2013, 1:27am
                        The bit inbetween scenes ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2013, 6:40am
                            I myself simply can't think of a scenario where it would make sense the way it happened... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 9 2013, 12:57pm
                                You think one troll wouldn't have been capable of killing Bilbo? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 9 2013, 1:13pm
                                    One troll, two trolls... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 9 2013, 1:26pm
                                Jumping ahead of yourself. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2013, 1:31pm
                                    I didn't exactly attribute any statement to you, did I? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 9 2013, 1:42pm
                                        I wasn't having a pop at you. I was being playful, hence the ;-). Must've fallen flat on the floor. / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2013, 1:55pm
                                            Fair enough... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 9 2013, 2:52pm
                        So, what could they do? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 9 2013, 7:33am
                            Well... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Oct 9 2013, 12:32pm
                    Can you imagine the dwarves all giving up in the Bo5A 'cause Thorin was about to ... you know Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 8 2013, 11:30pm
                        I'm absolutely certain you can see the difference... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 9 2013, 7:36am
                            Dwarf personality characteristics -- Surrender? Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 9 2013, 5:17pm
                                Right..... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Oct 9 2013, 5:40pm
                                    No need. Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 9 2013, 5:43pm
            Safety JWPlatt Oct 8 2013, 9:46pm
    I agree... Cave Troll Send a private message to Cave Troll Oct 8 2013, 7:25pm
    Yep. IDLookout Send a private message to IDLookout Oct 8 2013, 11:46pm
    I have a problem Bishop Send a private message to Bishop Oct 9 2013, 5:17am
        A bit of homework is needed here... DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Oct 9 2013, 6:07am
        Obsession and addiction are never good, especially if you don't enjoy it. Noria Send a private message to Noria Oct 9 2013, 1:13pm
        I watch AUJ too much. It's like I'm addicted to it. I'd love to believe it's because it's a lush, visually dazzling, well acted and fully loaded romp through Middle Earth, and perhaps the film I had been waiting for since I was a kid. But it's not, exactl Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Oct 11 2013, 11:28pm
    I have a different interpretation of several of these scenes elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Oct 9 2013, 1:29pm
    Prediction time frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 9 2013, 1:45pm
        why even try to make predictions about such things? elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Oct 9 2013, 4:08pm
            Err... frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Oct 9 2013, 4:14pm
                well, yes, but still elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Oct 9 2013, 7:59pm

 
 
 

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