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just to say....

Maciliel
Valinor


Oct 4 2013, 3:59am


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just to say.... [In reply to] Can't Post

 
i'm certainly sorry that you feel uncomfortable or discouraged enough that you're withdrawing from the conversation. i don't think anyone here is taking anything personally, but (it happens that) your opinion on this particular thing is widely divergent from the opinion of those who have expressed themselves on this thread at this time. because you've got a lot of differing opinions in response to the posts you've made, it may seem like people here are taking it personally (the volume and the 180-degree difference in opinion might make it feel so to you), but, truly, i don't see anyone on this thread taking it personally. just expressing strong surprise at the (strongly) divergent opinion. also, i don't think that anyone is particularly bothered that you have a divergent opinion -- i think it comes down to surprise, because that's not the assessment of most who've expressed opinions on this thread.

i think part of the issue in the discussion is the use of "absolute statements" --- like, "let's at least be honest here," and similar. when something is cast in phrasing like that, it implies that the people who disagree with you are not being honest. and i don't think that's the case at all. people just saw the scene a different way than you did, and received the actor's performance a different way than you did.

i think it's great that you have an opinion, and you are sharing it and we're exploring our differences. we've been very successful so far in doing all of this politely, despite the fact that the opinions are very different, and that's a credit to everyone here (which absolutely includes you).

i think it's natural that you're getting the lion's share of feedback / responses to posts on this thread, just due to the fact that you've expressed a widely divergent opinion, and have pretty strong feelings about it. if it's come across that folks are singling you out, that's unfortunate, but i can understand how it might seem. i think that's just what happens in a situation like this.

again, everyone here has been polite and engaging, and that's been great. i personally thank you for sticking with it and elaborating, especially if you did so past the point at which you might have been comfortable.

ok. now i think i'm going to start a thread on faramir. (that's a little joke with a nod to you, btw, as upthread you expressed not liking the character / performance at all. : ) )


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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo

Subject User Time
Eowyn VS The Witch-King Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Sep 29 2013, 5:25pm
    the line didn't work at all Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 29 2013, 8:24pm
        "I am no man" Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Sep 30 2013, 5:50am
            Legolas totally 100% stole the show Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 30 2013, 12:49pm
        Not exactly... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Sep 30 2013, 1:09pm
            *claps* Well said!!! FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 30 2013, 1:33pm
            And 10 years later nobody remembers it Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 30 2013, 4:57pm
                Kick-a** heroines arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Sep 30 2013, 7:08pm
                    Hey, Boba Fett was a silent glorified cameo in ESB Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 30 2013, 10:12pm
                        Boba Fett... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Oct 1 2013, 12:54pm
                            adding one Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Oct 2 2013, 3:16am
                                I thought that her overacting was ridiculous Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 2 2013, 3:35pm
                                    There Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 2 2013, 6:35pm
                                        ha! Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Oct 3 2013, 2:30am
                                            I'd say "sand" and "man" were about equally bad Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 12:28pm
                                        That's always a comfort! Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Oct 3 2013, 3:24am
                                    Really? Just shows how people can have dramatically different interpretations... MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Oct 3 2013, 3:11pm
                                        As you said people have dramatically different interpretations Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 3:21pm
                                            eowyn and eomer are about the same age Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Oct 3 2013, 7:23pm
                                                Urban looked younger Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 7:29pm
                                            Plain?! Meneldor Send a private message to Meneldor Oct 3 2013, 8:20pm
                                        Miranda Otto Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 3 2013, 5:18pm
                                            Again, each to its own Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 5:48pm
                                                Wow Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 3 2013, 6:53pm
                                                    I say she's obviously in her 30s Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 7:28pm
                                                        echoing starling's "wow" Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Oct 3 2013, 8:06pm
                                                            I didn't say teen behavior but teen soap opera behavior Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 3 2013, 8:26pm
                                                            "it does astonish me that someone could have such a pronounced, negative reaction to otto's performance." Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 4 2013, 12:20am
                                                                people think alike Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 4 2013, 1:28am
                                                                    The Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Oct 4 2013, 2:21am
                                                                        Oddly enough Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Oct 4 2013, 5:52pm
                                                                    just to say.... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Oct 4 2013, 3:59am
                                                                        Thanks! Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Oct 4 2013, 10:25am
                                                                    Let's be honest? Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 4 2013, 4:10am
                                                                    From a book-firster perspective CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Oct 22 2013, 12:14am
                                                                        Maybe the difference is in Eowyn's presentation Elciryamo Send a private message to Elciryamo Oct 22 2013, 6:32am
                                                I agree to each their own. Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 3 2013, 7:49pm
                                            Definitely agree Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Oct 9 2013, 8:03am
                            Speaking of Star Wars characters... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 7 2013, 7:29pm
                I would definitely say it does the same for me... Misty Mountain Hop Send a private message to Misty Mountain Hop Oct 8 2013, 6:07pm
    Like much of ROTK, the focus was on 'coolness' sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 30 2013, 12:30am
        But neither turned cool Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 30 2013, 12:45pm
    I admit to not being a fan of this scene demnation Send a private message to demnation Sep 30 2013, 10:07am
        many cheesy lines get saved by delivery Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 30 2013, 12:51pm
    Honestly, I don't understand what the fuss is about either Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Oct 2 2013, 12:50am
    The Line Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 3 2013, 1:05pm
    i loved the witch king flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Oct 4 2013, 1:43am
    I thought the scene worked brilliantly in the film, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Nov 7 2013, 3:10am
    Another one simplyaven Send a private message to simplyaven Dec 28 2013, 1:20am

 
 
 

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