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Maciliel
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Oct 3 2013, 8:06pm
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it does astonish me that someone could have such a pronounced, negative reaction to otto's performance. for myself, there were some slivers of moments i did not care for as much, but on the whole, throughout the two films, she did well. i'm happy about the casting choice. they went for someone who could carry the role and had some acting heft, rather than only a pretty face ('tho otto certainly has that; she's lovely). the way you equate otto's performance with that of a teenager makes me wonder quite wonderingly at what teenagers you've encountered. another area in which our assessments differ is the interaction between aragorn and eowyn when she woke from her (horrifying) nightmare. there was nothing guileful in her grasping for him -- she was quite overwhelmed by her dream, which also seemed to be a prophecy. she was terrified. aragorn saw that, and responded with compassion. i've had horrible dreams like that. they are quite terrifying. and, even though she knows that an elven-lady gave aragorn "that jewel," why would she suppose that there was something going on? a coupling between a human and an elf? that had happened only twice before (or three times, if you count the ancestors of prince imrahil), all of it in eons so dusty that there is a great chance that she knew nothing of them. so why would she think that there was any sort of romantic relationship? especially since aragorn himself told her that she {arwen) was sailing west with her kin? eowyn's feelings for aragorn were quite real. she was someone who had walled herself off from emotions all her life, having known much loss. when aragorn appeared, he was the epitome of all that she admired, plus he had a healing presence. it was through his companion (gandalf) that one who was so dear to eowyn was healed (theoden). so it is easy to understand (at least for me), why she was overcome with grief when gimli brought her the news that aragorn had died. no, she had not known him long, but she was struck by him, he awoke her as gandalf awoke theoden. she was able to have hope where she was dead before. it astonishes me that someone could have such relentlessly negative takes on otto's performance, but it's okay. it's a film, it's a performance, and people see it through the lenses of their experiences and faculties. i'm glad i i had a different experience, as otto definitely added to my thorough enjoyment of the trilogy (and i thought she was great in her battle with the witch-king). .
aka. fili orc-enshield +++++++++++++++++++ the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield." this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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Eowyn VS The Witch-King
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Barrow-Wight
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Sep 29 2013, 5:25pm
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the line didn't work at all
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 8:24pm
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"I am no man"
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Fredeghar Wayfarer
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Sep 30 2013, 5:50am
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Legolas totally 100% stole the show
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 12:49pm
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Not exactly...
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arithmancer
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Sep 30 2013, 1:09pm
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*claps* Well said!!!
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FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
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Sep 30 2013, 1:33pm
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And 10 years later nobody remembers it
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 4:57pm
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Kick-a** heroines
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arithmancer
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Sep 30 2013, 7:08pm
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Hey, Boba Fett was a silent glorified cameo in ESB
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 10:12pm
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Boba Fett...
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arithmancer
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Oct 1 2013, 12:54pm
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adding one
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Maciliel
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Oct 2 2013, 3:16am
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I thought that her overacting was ridiculous
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Semper Fi
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Oct 2 2013, 3:35pm
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There
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Faleel
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Oct 2 2013, 6:35pm
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ha!
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Barrow-Wight
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Oct 3 2013, 2:30am
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I'd say "sand" and "man" were about equally bad
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 12:28pm
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That's always a comfort!
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Werde Spinner
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Oct 3 2013, 3:24am
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Really? Just shows how people can have dramatically different interpretations...
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MatthewJer18
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Oct 3 2013, 3:11pm
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As you said people have dramatically different interpretations
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 3:21pm
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eowyn and eomer are about the same age
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Maciliel
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Oct 3 2013, 7:23pm
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Urban looked younger
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 7:29pm
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Plain?!
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Meneldor
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Oct 3 2013, 8:20pm
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Miranda Otto
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Elessar
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Oct 3 2013, 5:18pm
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Again, each to its own
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 5:48pm
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Wow
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Starling
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Oct 3 2013, 6:53pm
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I say she's obviously in her 30s
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 7:28pm
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echoing starling's "wow"
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Maciliel
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Oct 3 2013, 8:06pm
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I didn't say teen behavior but teen soap opera behavior
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Semper Fi
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Oct 3 2013, 8:26pm
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"it does astonish me that someone could have such a pronounced, negative reaction to otto's performance."
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Magpie
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Oct 4 2013, 12:20am
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people think alike
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Semper Fi
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Oct 4 2013, 1:28am
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The
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Faleel
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Oct 4 2013, 2:21am
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Oddly enough
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Darkstone
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Oct 4 2013, 5:52pm
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just to say....
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Maciliel
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Oct 4 2013, 3:59am
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Thanks!
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Semper Fi
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Oct 4 2013, 10:25am
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Let's be honest?
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Starling
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Oct 4 2013, 4:10am
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From a book-firster perspective
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CuriousG
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Oct 22 2013, 12:14am
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Maybe the difference is in Eowyn's presentation
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Elciryamo
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Oct 22 2013, 6:32am
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I agree to each their own.
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Elessar
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Oct 3 2013, 7:49pm
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Definitely agree
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Old Pilgrim
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Oct 9 2013, 8:03am
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Speaking of Star Wars characters...
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 7 2013, 7:29pm
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I would definitely say it does the same for me...
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Misty Mountain Hop
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Oct 8 2013, 6:07pm
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Like much of ROTK, the focus was on 'coolness'
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sycorax82
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Sep 30 2013, 12:30am
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But neither turned cool
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 12:45pm
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I admit to not being a fan of this scene
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demnation
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Sep 30 2013, 10:07am
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many cheesy lines get saved by delivery
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 12:51pm
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Honestly, I don't understand what the fuss is about either
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Ziggy Stardust
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Oct 2 2013, 12:50am
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The Line
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Elessar
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Oct 3 2013, 1:05pm
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i loved the witch king
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flameofudun
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Oct 4 2013, 1:43am
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I thought the scene worked brilliantly in the film,
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sauget.diblosio
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Nov 7 2013, 3:10am
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Another one
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simplyaven
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Dec 28 2013, 1:20am
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