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Silverlode
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Oct 2 2013, 11:59pm
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But if Gollum didn't see him...
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why would he say that he "has only four fingers on the black hand, but they are enough"? Why would the Mouth of Sauron have only four fingers on his hand? Being fooled about an escape (which I'm sure they made just hard enough to be convincing) is a very different thing from hallucinating a mutilated hand where none exists. That's quite specific and rather awful in its implications (it's spoken as a victim of torture who fears that hand and is never going to forget it).
No, I think Sauron had a form at this time, but a black, foul one which could no longer deceive anyone into thinking him anything other than he was, and the Eye is the embodiment of his perception and will, amplified and projected via palantir. The same word imagery, by the way, is used of the palantir of Minas Tirith. Denethor himself asks Gandalf "Do you think the eyes of the White Tower are blind?" We later find out that he's referring to the sight granted to him by the palantir. And because we see him in the flesh, nobody thinks he's referring to some disembodied eyes in the tower. The eyes are obviously his. The only difference is that none of the characters whose perspective is given in the book "see" Sauron himself...except Gollum.
I think Sauron does not want to show his hideous form. I rather think he was probably very proud of his beautiful appearance before and he's very angry and bitter that he can't look that way anymore. Also, it's a matter of pride and control. The great Lord does not do his errands or deliver his messages himself. That's what servants are for.
Silverlode
"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dűm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."
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The Eye of Sauron
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 1 2013, 3:05pm
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This is properly a Movie Board question
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sador
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Oct 1 2013, 5:12pm
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The movie did get its inspiration from the book, then took it a bit too far
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squire
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Oct 1 2013, 6:21pm
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interesting
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 1 2013, 6:42pm
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Do you think it is significant that these sightings are both by Frodo?
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noWizardme
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Oct 4 2013, 5:09pm
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Of course
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squire
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Oct 4 2013, 5:45pm
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The Ear of Sauron is searching for you.
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CuriousG
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Oct 4 2013, 5:54pm
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The Ear, The Eye, The Mouth of Sauron…
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noWizardme
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Oct 4 2013, 6:05pm
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Upon which is vented...
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Darkstone
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Oct 4 2013, 6:07pm
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That Darth Vader-like heavy breathing emanating from Barad-dur
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CuriousG
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Oct 4 2013, 6:15pm
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Surprisingly irrelevant and unuseful...
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Darkstone
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Oct 4 2013, 6:29pm
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The Foot of Sauron - was just a leg end//
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noWizardme
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Oct 4 2013, 7:29pm
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Well that's a win..
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Darkstone
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Oct 4 2013, 7:49pm
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The Eye of Sauron Is Upon You
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Meneldor
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Oct 5 2013, 12:11am
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Wish granted! Though I'm not from TX!!
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Rembrethil
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Oct 5 2013, 5:30pm
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defintely a Reading Room question...
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 1 2013, 6:46pm
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I think I must be one of the few book fans
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Oct 2 2013, 12:57pm
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So if he got his ring back,
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Meneldor
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Oct 2 2013, 2:18pm
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that of course if the logical question
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 2 2013, 3:50pm
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he doesn't need a physical body to use (or hold) the Ring
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acheron
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Oct 2 2013, 4:08pm
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True Acheron
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Brethil
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Oct 2 2013, 4:23pm
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I think there were two versions...
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Rembrethil
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Oct 2 2013, 5:09pm
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I think so Rem
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Brethil
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Oct 2 2013, 5:16pm
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I believe i read somewhere
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 2 2013, 6:55pm
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Beings of sufficient power could reimbody but it took time.
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 3 2013, 10:01am
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I never really put much thought into his physical manifestation in the TA
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Rembrethil
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Oct 2 2013, 4:10pm
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On the Ringwraiths
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rangerfromthenorth
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Oct 2 2013, 6:47pm
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Good question...
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 3 2013, 1:41am
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Open at your own risk!
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Oct 5 2013, 12:30am
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that
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Maciliel
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Oct 5 2013, 2:11am
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OMG I agree.
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Brethil
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Oct 5 2013, 4:17am
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But if Gollum didn't see him...
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Silverlode
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Oct 2 2013, 11:59pm
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Yes he had a form during the later TA
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ElendilTheShort
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Oct 3 2013, 10:16am
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I always wondered
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Lightfoot
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Oct 3 2013, 1:07pm
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"I've got my eye on you" "Give me a hand" "Leg it!" "Man the guns"
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squire
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Oct 3 2013, 5:33pm
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Sauron's Third Age body
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Elthir
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Oct 3 2013, 5:47pm
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Just what I wanted to say!!
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Rembrethil
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Oct 4 2013, 1:39am
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