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Roheryn
Tol Eressea
Sep 28 2013, 10:36am
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but your post made me giggle: that females don't take to these films. I haven't done a statistical analysis for a while, but back in LOTR's heyday a very strong majority of the posters on these boards was female. And many (most?) were enthusiastic fans of either the books or the movies, or both. (I realize you weren't specifically talking about the books, but I think the two go together.) Nowadays I suspect there's still a female majority across all the boards here, though this majority may be less on The Hobbit board. I suspect the relative increase in male posters on The Hobbit board isn't because males like the movie more than females, however, but instead for more complicated reasons. And I'd also suggest that a number of male posters on The Hobbit board in fact are NOT fans of the movie. So gender ratio of active posters doesn't necessarily indicate that one gender is more likely to "take to the films" than the other. And by far and away, the most enthusiastic fans I know of The Hobbit movie (and the LOTR movies, and the books too) are in fact female -- okay, so maybe I met them here on TORn, but still, they're real people too! And I know men who are polite fans of the movies but who are DEEPLY committed, scholarly fans of the books. I'm married to one of them. I'd suggest you've got bad luck with your mum and girlfriend. Have to say I've had bad luck with my mum, too. She doesn't get why I find Dwarves so fascinating -- because, as she says, they're not real, and why should I waste my time with things that aren't real? She Doesn't Get It. But that's not because she's female. That's just how she is. It doesn't take a Y chromosome to appreciate the themes that run throughout Tolkien's work, whether in the books or the movies. We females can appreciate a good imaginative adventure story, where the little people triumph over evil through quiet courage and determination, in a world where wizards fight demons and horses come running when you whistle. Where friendship, honour and loyalty matter, and where a king is known by his healing hands. Where light shines forever beyond the reach of darkness, and where the smallest of beings can topple the mightiest of evils. Where trees and foxes talk, and trolls turn to stone in the daylight Just Like They're Supposed To. Where eagles save the day when they're really needed, and a Werebear can be your saviour -- if you're lucky. What's not to like here? And why should it matter if I'm female or not? Oh, and did I mention Hot Dwarves?
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A female's point of view
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Thranderz
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Sep 27 2013, 10:33pm
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Absolutely not, this is a femine forum! ;-)
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2013, 10:44pm
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You may have a point Daniel. //
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Brethil
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Sep 27 2013, 11:01pm
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I'd expect more Tauriel fanboys ...
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2013, 11:06pm
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Same here!
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Thranderz
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Sep 27 2013, 11:08pm
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Where *are* the fans? Good question
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Brethil
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Sep 27 2013, 11:19pm
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Maybe working at High Schools?
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Mikah
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Sep 28 2013, 1:36am
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Good for you Mikah!
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Brethil
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Sep 28 2013, 4:14am
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ooh, I like this one even better :-) //
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Kim
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Sep 28 2013, 5:59am
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ooh, i like that avatar! //
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Kim
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Sep 28 2013, 5:57am
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What's wrong with that?
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Dwarewien
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Sep 28 2013, 10:07pm
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. :-)
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DanielLB
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Sep 28 2013, 10:15pm
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I've never seen it that way.
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Mooseboy018
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Sep 27 2013, 10:52pm
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The view of all women? No.
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Ataahua
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Sep 27 2013, 10:52pm
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Oh yeah
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Thranderz
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Sep 27 2013, 10:57pm
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Phillipa Boyens' efforts are wasted on me.
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Elizabeth
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Sep 27 2013, 11:07pm
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I agree!
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Thranderz
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Sep 27 2013, 11:11pm
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*mods up*
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cats16
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Sep 27 2013, 11:35pm
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Welll
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Blkcpt
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Sep 27 2013, 11:54pm
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Absolutely agree with this
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Oleander Took
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Sep 27 2013, 11:48pm
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Agreed
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Ziggy Stardust
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Sep 28 2013, 12:20am
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I loved The Hobbit book with no females at all
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Lusitano
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Sep 28 2013, 1:47am
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Couldn't agree more...
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Eleniel
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Sep 28 2013, 7:43am
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How do you know that Tauriel is the only female guard?
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 28 2013, 1:04pm
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We really have to stop meeting like this...
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Eleniel
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Sep 28 2013, 1:19pm
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I do tend to respond to people who I like and respect more than others //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 28 2013, 2:30pm
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I have the same "problem"
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Thranderz
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Sep 28 2013, 2:39pm
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Flatterer! //
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Eleniel
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Sep 28 2013, 8:11pm
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Just tellin' the truth! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 28 2013, 8:21pm
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Elf-women generally fight only at extreme need
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 28 2013, 6:18pm
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You could say Galadriel is a token female...
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Eleniel
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Sep 28 2013, 8:10pm
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Considering that Evie, Orli and Lee are about the same age (mid 30s)
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 12:14pm
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Heaven knows Tolkien would never devise a lone female character
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2013, 6:23pm
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Eh, Eowyn wasn't the youngest Rohirrim eva who held the highest rank in military
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 12:28pm
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Whoa
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Altaira
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Sep 29 2013, 3:19pm
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Well, writers are clueless
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 7:12pm
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Erm.....
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2013, 7:41pm
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Not all writers, only this movie ones
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 9:07pm
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Many situations, actually
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2013, 9:55pm
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Considering that they gave Eowyn a stew-cooking scene
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Semper Fi
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Sep 29 2013, 10:56pm
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Becoming Queen has nothing to do with character
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glor
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Sep 30 2013, 1:50am
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But in Rohan...
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arithmancer
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Sep 30 2013, 1:52am
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yes
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glor
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Sep 30 2013, 1:59am
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Yes, but...
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Silverlode
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Sep 30 2013, 2:03am
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if all males of the lineage died
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Semper Fi
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Sep 30 2013, 12:38pm
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What we know...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 29 2013, 8:53pm
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There has been a little more background since then
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 30 2013, 2:27pm
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Er.....
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2013, 5:57pm
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If this were a movie just about the story of The Hobbit, I'd agree
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2013, 6:01pm
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Ditto! *mods up*
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 29 2013, 1:13am
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My girlfriend and my sisters loved AUJ...
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DeadRabbits
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Sep 27 2013, 10:53pm
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Folks said that about LotR, too...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 27 2013, 10:57pm
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Interesting question...
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Arannir
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Sep 27 2013, 11:00pm
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I do not agree at all
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MediaMalable
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Sep 27 2013, 11:05pm
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I've met many of both of gender that love
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Elskidor
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Sep 27 2013, 11:28pm
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Don't be surprised.
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Elizabeth
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Sep 28 2013, 2:39am
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what she said. //
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Magpie
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Sep 28 2013, 2:52am
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Definitely not
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Ziggy Stardust
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Sep 28 2013, 12:10am
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I know several females, mine own lady included, who adore it, and not just because they desire Thorin, Aragorn or Thranduil, though
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AinurOlorin
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Sep 28 2013, 1:23am
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Nope!
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arithmancer
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Sep 28 2013, 1:29am
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"female energy" is not a reason why women enjoy movies
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Semper Fi
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Sep 28 2013, 1:55am
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I must be getting old
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Starling
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Sep 28 2013, 1:59am
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Heh, Starling...
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Silverlode
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Sep 28 2013, 6:16am
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OMG
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Starling
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Sep 28 2013, 6:19am
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Yes, Starling, there is a Thorin.
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Silverlode
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Sep 28 2013, 7:19am
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Mods up! 1,000 times mods up!! //
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dormouse
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Sep 28 2013, 8:48am
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The joys of TORn
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Starling
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Sep 28 2013, 9:15am
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I'm glad you figured it out.
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Silverlode
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Sep 30 2013, 1:25am
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I was familiar
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Starling
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Sep 30 2013, 2:16am
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So, as long as we believe in Thorin with all our might,
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Roheryn
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Sep 28 2013, 10:02am
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Oh wicked..... ;-)
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dormouse
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Sep 28 2013, 10:24am
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Maybe we need to do a series of parodies
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Roheryn
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Sep 28 2013, 10:57am
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There are certainly plenty of parody opportunities there....
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Silverlode
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Sep 30 2013, 1:28am
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We are all in the gutter...
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Starling
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Sep 30 2013, 2:19am
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wow....
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Cirashala
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Sep 28 2013, 6:21pm
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He's got a sword that's gleaming bright
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Lusitano
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Sep 28 2013, 6:22pm
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Priceless!
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Riven Delve
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Sep 28 2013, 11:39am
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You guys are killing me! :D //
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 28 2013, 5:52pm
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You said it!
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Semper Fi
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Sep 28 2013, 11:50am
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I don't think it's so much you failing to convey it
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Starling
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Sep 28 2013, 6:48pm
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I'm a guy and hated Kate from LOST because she made no sense to me at all
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Elskidor
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Sep 28 2013, 2:21am
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Can you explain why she made no sense to you?
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Starling
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Sep 28 2013, 4:40am
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Bomby likes to think of all these Books & Movies as...
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Bombadil
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Sep 28 2013, 5:55am
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No, just no....
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dormouse
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Sep 28 2013, 8:51am
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To be fair
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Na Vedui
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Sep 28 2013, 8:00pm
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How About this
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IdrilofGondolin
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Sep 28 2013, 2:27am
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feminine energy?
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Magpie
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Sep 28 2013, 2:51am
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If you find any extra feminine energy, Magpie,
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Roheryn
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Sep 28 2013, 10:59am
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Mods up! Wonderfully said!
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 28 2013, 5:28pm
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prefectly agree. Tolkien can/should connect with all, no matter what background //
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Xanaseb
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Sep 28 2013, 5:41pm
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Wow what a post
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Michelle Johnston
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Sep 29 2013, 7:37pm
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A little sexist;
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Olessan
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Sep 28 2013, 3:42am
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Oh no!
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Thranderz
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Sep 28 2013, 7:59am
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Relating?
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Roheryn
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Sep 28 2013, 10:52am
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Amen, sister!
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Werde Spinner
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Sep 30 2013, 3:27pm
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Nope
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Kim
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Sep 28 2013, 5:56am
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Speak for yourself - or at least, your girlfriend! ;-)
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dormouse
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Sep 28 2013, 8:43am
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Being as unbiased as I can
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demnation
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Sep 28 2013, 9:37am
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I know you didn't mean it to,
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Roheryn
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Sep 28 2013, 10:36am
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Females versus males and LOTR/The Hobbit
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Glorfindela
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Sep 28 2013, 10:41am
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Another woman here who has loved Tolkien’s books for decades.
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Noria
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Sep 28 2013, 12:30pm
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Older readers
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Na Vedui
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Sep 28 2013, 5:12pm
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Well
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Escapist
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Sep 28 2013, 1:05pm
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A Mom's review of The Hobbit
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burgahobbit
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Sep 28 2013, 1:09pm
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I dunno about this...
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StarGodziller
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Sep 28 2013, 3:26pm
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Hmm, interesting, I've found the opposite in fact. My mum loved it (and she's not usually into fantasy and the such!)
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Xanaseb
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Sep 28 2013, 5:15pm
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I certainly do not think it is boring, nor do I believe the characters aren't likeable.
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FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
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Sep 29 2013, 10:36am
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Not sure what planet you're living on....
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swordwhale
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Sep 30 2013, 4:06am
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