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Sep 11 2013, 10:15pm

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held his own against a single Wraith, even if it was The Chief. He is one of the Istari, an Ainur even in his diminished disguise. And, of course, Gandalf is the mightier Wizard, higer in both Valinorean and Istari status than his kinsspirit Radagast. And, its majority agreement that the way the EERTK scenes was handled was a big mistake. It was the desire for heightened tension gone too far. Tolkien already made plain that the returned Gandalf was mightier than all The Nine together. He was the reincarnate emissary of Eru and The Valar, mighty even in a limited form. He had also, in a less powerful incarnation, defeated a Balrog. Tolkien himself confirmed that The Balrog would have been second only to Sauron amongst the Evil Powers that remained in The Third Age. Which only makes sense. The Demon was also a Maiar, whilst the Nazgul were but phantom-shades of human men, enhanced by a fraction of the power of Sauron via their Rings. The Nazgul were averse to High Elves. The Balrog was one of those "Old Powers of Darkness, strong . . . " that are mentioned in The Two Towers. One of those who did not fear Elves of any calibur, and who had paid no heed to their calls of prayer to The Valar in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings in Nargothrond.The Balrogs had been present and active in the creation of The World, and had aided the works of Melkor for Millennia ere the first of the Elves had even awaken. How could any Nazgul ever compare to that, really?

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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Subject	User	Time
Certainly Gandalf needs to display power-magic in Dol Guldur. But how? Let the books be your guide, filmcrew!	AinurOlorin	Sep 10 2013, 11:28pm
Completely agree	Arandir	Sep 11 2013, 6:59am
That is a fear, but I certainly hope they won't make that mistake. Two things play in favour of them doing the right thing	AinurOlorin	Sep 11 2013, 7:53am
Plus,	burgahobbit	Sep 11 2013, 11:00am
Definitely, Burgahobbit and Sycoraxa82. I thought it fitting and proper that Radagast	AinurOlorin	Sep 11 2013, 10:15pm
# 2 of this list completely nails it on EVERY level.	AinurOlorin	Sep 11 2013, 8:01am
Very very true ...	Arandir	Sep 11 2013, 3:48pm
Fingers crossed for it, Arandir my friend.	AinurOlorin	Sep 11 2013, 10:16pm
I wish they would reshoot the Witch-King confrontation	sycorax82	Sep 11 2013, 6:22pm
i still missed how in the book when Gandalf showed up in...	MouthofSauron	Sep 12 2013, 3:18am
Sauron	Yngwulff	Sep 12 2013, 3:48am
No, however Sauron almost surely would not be the first wave of confrontation (and, yes please to Glorfindel in the full assault . .. SURVIVING in a hero Elf role!)	AinurOlorin	Sep 12 2013, 4:09am
^ Liking all of this, AO.	cats16	Sep 12 2013, 4:16am
I really missed that too, HOWEVER, after the how many of Gandalf's displays of power were either	AinurOlorin	Sep 12 2013, 4:01am
agreed	MouthofSauron	Sep 12 2013, 4:13am
orcrist did glow	Cirashala	Sep 12 2013, 5:10pm
nope	MouthofSauron	Sep 13 2013, 3:38am
There were a few points where Glamdring glowed VERY briefly, as it was swung.	AinurOlorin	Sep 13 2013, 10:20pm
Hard to tell	Old Pilgrim	Sep 12 2013, 5:28am
It is the books being quoted. Yes he encouraged, with wisdom, and his kind Spirit, and was aided by the healing power of The Red Ring, but make no mistake	AinurOlorin	Sep 12 2013, 7:46am
Yes but	Hamfast Gamgee	Sep 12 2013, 12:00pm
True, but we are talking about Dol Guldur here	Old Pilgrim	Sep 12 2013, 12:56pm
It is a trap. And as he said on Caradhras when the wargs came, ere another display of power, "Need we wait till morning? The Hunt is up!"	AinurOlorin	Sep 13 2013, 9:36pm
Hopefully not...	Salmacis81	Sep 14 2013, 12:35am
Guard your heart, Salmacis. I hope as you do, but	AinurOlorin	Sep 14 2013, 3:10am
maiar vs istari	Cirashala	Sep 14 2013, 3:01pm
The Istari are Maia	Otaku-sempai	Sep 14 2013, 9:05pm
What Otaku said...	Salmacis81	Sep 15 2013, 3:09am
Otaku and Salmacis have nailed it. To give greater specifity, Olorin and Curumo were the highest of the Maiar who were sent and became known as	AinurOlorin	Sep 15 2013, 5:28pm
If we are going by the books	Hamfast Gamgee	Sep 12 2013, 11:56am
True...	Salmacis81	Sep 12 2013, 2:43pm

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