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AinurOlorin
Half-elven
Sep 9 2013, 11:19pm
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It changes the entire history. The war was fought with HIM as the goal of the dwarves.
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They were an extremely Patriarchal society. Dwarves would sometimes spend their lives trying to avenge a wrong done to a father. Thror was the symbolic father of the race, and the heir of the Eldest of the race, Durin. Durin's reincarnation was slain by a Balrog. The dwarves had no hope of vengeance against such a Dark Power until another Power came to face him. But Azog? Azog was an orc. Big, strong, nasty, but an orc still, and dwarves knew ways of dealing with orcs. The desecration of Thror infuriated ALL the houses of the dwarves. It was one of the few violations capable of bringing together armies from all 7 houses.
"For this insult to the heir of the eldest of their race could not be borne. . . they sacked, one by one, every stronghold of the orcs they could find, from Gundabad to The Gladden, and they hunted for Azog in every den under the mountains."
When Nain, Thror's nephew, arrived with his army they were chanting Azog's name as they marched. And then his slaying, and the iconic, terrifying encounter with THe Balrog. . .. these movies sacrificed GREAT EPIC moments, for one badass orc, who could still have been featured, and whose later functions could have been well carried out by Bolg. I wouldn't want Azog to be dead. His character was awesome, in my eyes. The first villain I've ever cared for in Middle-earth. But different tastes, I guess, and I'm not that much of a purist: I welcome changes to the source material sometimes since it adds a little something and makes it a surprise to me. I'd hate to just watch what I've read in a book word-for-word. But again, different tastes, eh? 
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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kili and tauriel in dale?
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boldog
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Sep 8 2013, 11:35am
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I truly hope not
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Shagrat
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Sep 8 2013, 1:00pm
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Love is never absurd
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AinurOlorin
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Sep 8 2013, 10:18pm
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But Azog's a badass
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LordotRings93
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Sep 9 2013, 12:04am
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It changes the entire history. The war was fought with HIM as the goal of the dwarves.
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AinurOlorin
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Sep 9 2013, 11:19pm
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Would have loved to see most of that...
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Salmacis81
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Sep 9 2013, 1:45pm
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What?! No way! Now THAT is absurd
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Ziggy Stardust
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Sep 10 2013, 12:29am
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Well I've heard a rumor regarding that...
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Salmacis81
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Sep 10 2013, 1:11am
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There's no truth behind it. I wouldn't worry. /
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DanielLB
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Sep 10 2013, 9:38am
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Thanks...
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Salmacis81
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Sep 10 2013, 2:23pm
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Nope, not even a rumour...
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Eleniel
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Sep 10 2013, 9:45am
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Current status of the idea...
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DwellerInDale
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Sep 10 2013, 10:24am
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Other idea
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arithmancer
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Sep 10 2013, 12:34pm
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Interesting Idea
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DwellerInDale
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Sep 10 2013, 1:22pm
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If not Haldir, then Arwen?
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arithmancer
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Sep 10 2013, 5:15pm
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I guess...
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Salmacis81
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Sep 10 2013, 2:34pm
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The prophecy and Elves.
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DanielLB
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Sep 10 2013, 2:48pm
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I agree, it doesn't have to refer to an elf...
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Salmacis81
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Sep 10 2013, 8:08pm
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Thank you
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Semper Fi
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Sep 11 2013, 12:16am
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I forgot to add...
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Eleniel
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Sep 10 2013, 3:05pm
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Dragging the prophecy into The Hobbit is absurd, not giving it to Tauriel
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Semper Fi
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Sep 10 2013, 6:20pm
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To me, both is bad
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Ziggy Stardust
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Sep 11 2013, 12:38am
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Yes, there is going to be a scene with just the two...
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Symbelmine
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Sep 20 2013, 9:17pm
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