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Two points about irredeemability

Brethil
Half-elven


Sep 9 2013, 10:35pm


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Two points about irredeemability [In reply to] Can't Post
I think JRRT leaves the door open for the conceptual possibility of redemption . He states in Letters 'I not deal in Absolute Evil' with the closest to that concept being Sauron (not Melkor, and not Orcs) He also discusses that behavior depends very much upon who your Captains are ... Implying I think that the social structure and choices of the more powerful trickle downwards.

Maybe we could hold out hope... I like to think so! Smile
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Subject User Time
does any one wish tolkien invented at least one good orc? boldog Send a private message to boldog Sep 7 2013, 9:01pm
    Not really..... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Sep 7 2013, 9:06pm
        ha! x2!!!! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Sep 9 2013, 5:42am
            some Pitiable and good thoughts... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Sep 10 2013, 4:17pm
                No Orc genocide as long as good guys fight male soldiers Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 10 2013, 6:34pm
                That's very philosophical (O_O) RhodeCamelot Send a private message to RhodeCamelot Sep 11 2013, 12:54pm
    Not stupid at all Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 7 2013, 10:18pm
    Have to agree Not Really IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Sep 7 2013, 10:23pm
    No... Mat Send a private message to Mat Sep 7 2013, 11:45pm
    Hmmmm.... Interesting. Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Sep 7 2013, 11:56pm
    Don't underestimate Gorbag and Shagrat: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2013, 12:03am
        They didn't seem all that good... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2013, 11:26am
    It might be just me demnation Send a private message to demnation Sep 8 2013, 12:46am
        The Orcs that captured Merry and Pippin Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Sep 8 2013, 9:32am
            Why not good orcs? Gorbadoc Send a private message to Gorbadoc Sep 8 2013, 9:48am
                Could an Orc be raised to be good? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2013, 11:34am
                    Raising an Orc cub in a biased environment Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 8 2013, 12:17pm
                        True Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2013, 12:21pm
                            Born evil Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 8 2013, 2:43pm
                                Destiny or Choice? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2013, 2:54pm
                                    Human Nature Mat Send a private message to Mat Sep 8 2013, 3:02pm
                                        Foir such a big Catholic Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 8 2013, 5:24pm
                                        I would not equate Orcs to demons. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2013, 8:52pm
                                            Here is a great excerpt from Letter 153: Mat Send a private message to Mat Sep 9 2013, 3:53am
                                                Thanks for the citation... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 9 2013, 12:23pm
                                    Since it wasn't their choice to turn evil Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 8 2013, 5:27pm
                                        Perhaps they had a choice... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Sep 8 2013, 7:20pm
                                            lol! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Sep 9 2013, 5:39am
                                                Two points about irredeemability Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Sep 9 2013, 10:35pm
    What about half-orcs? Meneldor Send a private message to Meneldor Sep 8 2013, 1:39am
    No, not really... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 8 2013, 5:59pm
    You might enjoy Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Sep 9 2013, 7:52pm
    Always wanted to see this Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Sep 10 2013, 8:11am
        Idk if this analogy fits; RhodeCamelot Send a private message to RhodeCamelot Sep 11 2013, 2:38pm
    I don't. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Sep 11 2013, 3:24pm
        I know it's a dark place to go... Mat Send a private message to Mat Sep 18 2013, 6:33pm
    I am not much of a fan of that idea RosieBaggins Send a private message to RosieBaggins Sep 22 2013, 5:31pm

 
 
 

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