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sador
Half-elven
Aug 20 2013, 2:12pm
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Thank you for the excellent job you're doing! And my apologies for taking so long. Dragons are present in ME, after the destruction of Angband. Well, I expect they could have fled - after all, some could fly by all accounts. However, it is said in "later" works that the dragons did multiply, didn't they? Perhaps only two, one male and one female, escaped - but that was enough... I have always suspected that somehow Sauron knew the secrets of the "dragon project", and was able to assist them in multiplying. It is also noteworthy that in the Third Age a variety of dragons is known - not just the unwinged and improved, winged, models, but also cold-drakes, dragons without any fire! To say nothing of the Fell Beasts of the Nazgul, which seem to distantly connected... Balrogs, more than one was said to have escaped. I didn't remember that! Is it? This is odd, especially in view of Tolkien's statement I've cited in a recent thread thjat no more than five or seven are supposed to have ever existed. Five? Lemme count... two at least were killed in Gondolin, more than one escaped, so only one Balrog was destroyed! This contradicts Tolkien's statement in the previous chapter, doesn't it? But even if we ignore this statement, and assume that there were originally seven such fellows - what was Eonwe doing, destroying only four out of the five? Isn't that a sloppy job of him? What have they been doing all this time? (Or ARE they doing? These earthquakes are a pretty sordid business!!) Well, I have to link to an old post by Beren IV (another long-missed fellow of the RR circle, which I did have the pleasure to debate with). Your last statement just rang a bell. Enjoy!
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Silmarillion Chapter Discussion: Akallabeth (Downfall of Numenor)
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Rembrethil
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Aug 18 2013, 2:47am
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A few points
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Aug 18 2013, 12:54pm
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I had the (possibly wrong) impression...
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Rembrethil
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Aug 18 2013, 1:03pm
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Rather depends upon what type of power you mean!
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Aug 18 2013, 1:09pm
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I thought that I read somewhere....
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Rembrethil
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Aug 18 2013, 4:52pm
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Dunedain
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CuriousG
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Aug 28 2013, 12:27pm
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I like your approach! Half-Elven, and Religion
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arithmancer
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Aug 18 2013, 4:21pm
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Thanks, and thoughts...
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Rembrethil
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Aug 18 2013, 5:29pm
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Old Testament
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arithmancer
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Aug 18 2013, 6:20pm
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Definitely
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Rembrethil
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Aug 18 2013, 6:37pm
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Tinkering with religion
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CuriousG
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Aug 28 2013, 12:38pm
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Just to throw another idea into the mix
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Riven Delve
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Aug 21 2013, 6:39pm
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Just a vague idea
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Rembrethil
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Aug 21 2013, 6:45pm
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Some possibilities
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CuriousG
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Aug 28 2013, 11:59am
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As this discussion has seemed to have 'died'...
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Rembrethil
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Aug 19 2013, 9:35pm
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Loose ends
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Rembrethil
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Aug 19 2013, 9:44pm
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At last!
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sador
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Aug 20 2013, 2:12pm
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Missed citations added, with a thought on dragons
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Rembrethil
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Aug 20 2013, 2:44pm
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Number of Balrogs
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Rembrethil
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Aug 20 2013, 3:26pm
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Sauron
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Rembrethil
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Aug 19 2013, 9:57pm
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Did Sauron actually do the world a favour
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Aug 19 2013, 11:05pm
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Hmm... Counter-factuals can get messy..
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Rembrethil
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Aug 19 2013, 11:51pm
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Sauron did Sauron a favor
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squire
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Aug 20 2013, 12:11am
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I agree
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Aug 21 2013, 8:31am
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Political partition
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Rembrethil
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Aug 21 2013, 4:32pm
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Short answers
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sador
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Aug 20 2013, 2:26pm
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Not angling for power, with no desire for upward mobility? Brainwashed?
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Rembrethil
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Aug 20 2013, 3:17pm
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Beaten by a girl...
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squire
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Aug 20 2013, 5:12pm
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I'm not sure what's worse
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CuriousG
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Aug 27 2013, 8:51pm
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Heh!
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Meneldor
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Aug 27 2013, 10:21pm
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Sounds like you fought with Eowyn, lol. //
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CuriousG
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Aug 28 2013, 12:00pm
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Eowyn?
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Meneldor
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Aug 28 2013, 4:14pm
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Brainwashing
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CuriousG
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Aug 28 2013, 12:19pm
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The rings
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Rembrethil
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Aug 19 2013, 10:16pm
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What happened to the Ring?
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Rembrethil
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Aug 20 2013, 8:10pm
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He had it...
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Brethil
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Aug 21 2013, 2:01am
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My replies to your great questions!
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Brethil
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Aug 21 2013, 1:54am
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Elf envy
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CuriousG
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Aug 29 2013, 4:58pm
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Numenor and random Wraiths
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Brethil
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Aug 29 2013, 5:48pm
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Non-omniscient gods
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CuriousG
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Aug 29 2013, 6:26pm
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Indeed
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Darkstone
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Aug 29 2013, 6:41pm
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A stark contrast to Eru
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CuriousG
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Aug 29 2013, 7:00pm
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Recipe for a wraith-- Step one: find the subject to be wraith-ified
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Rembrethil
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Aug 29 2013, 8:23pm
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Job opening: gain awesome powers, live forever, wear cool black, ride big bird-things
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CuriousG
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Aug 29 2013, 9:46pm
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So what would the first day on the job look like?
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Rembrethil
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Aug 30 2013, 8:16pm
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