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Tribal Elves

Fredeghar Wayfarer

Aug 6 2013, 5:45pm

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The Avari seem very isolationist and tribal to me. They were mistrustful of the Valar and refused the summons so they're wary of outsiders. Tolkien mentions that there are at least six Avari languages, all derived from Primitive Quendian. That also indicates a tribal society with different groups of Avari mostly keeping to themselves and developing their own languages and customs. If I recall, Eol the Dark Elf was an Avar and he also was very proud and mistrustful of authority, to the point that he was willing to try and kill himself and his son rather than submit to Turgon's rule.

I picture the Avari as existing in various clans in the East, very proud and suspicious of outsiders. Some might live in Dorwinion making the wine that they send up the river to the Wood-elves. But this would be the extent of their contact with the wider world. That's how I picture the "pure blood" Avari. The Avari who wandered west would have been mostly assimilated into Silvan Elf culture, I assume.

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Speculation: What are the Avari like? thatlldo Send a private message to thatlldo Aug 6 2013, 6:01am
    I always thought of them..... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Aug 6 2013, 1:42pm
    Tribal Elves Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Aug 6 2013, 5:45pm
        Tatyarin Avari Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Aug 7 2013, 3:56pm
            It would seem strange CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 7 2013, 6:11pm
                trying to locate the Refusers Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Aug 8 2013, 4:54pm
    Did the Avari affect the Chinese civilization? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Aug 7 2013, 1:49pm
    avari vs teleri Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Aug 9 2013, 10:11pm


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