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A rich and complex topic

Brethil
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Jul 25 2013, 2:12pm


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Wonderful delineation by each character Elaen! Very much enjoyed it!

I find JRRT's description of Aragorn's hands as the hands of a healer a wonderful tie-in to real world lore, as for many ages it was believed that the touch of the rightful anointed king could heal such ills as scrofula, and the many Biblical healing legends regarding sacred touch healing leprosy. In his way of 'reporting' events it would serve as the origin of those beliefs in later real world life.

Could the interaction of Gandalf and Ioreth, and Gandalf calling for herbs for Aragorn's use be the first sign that he is retreating from Middle-earth? His work is done - and by stepping back, praising Ioreth for her wisdom, and allowing the King to heal he is actually healing Middle-earth to move forward?

I re-read Gandalf's healing of Théoden. As you say, no specifics are given. Gandalf seems to draw in the darkness (understanding it?) and then dispels it with his staff and the white light. It must represent a very spiritual type of healing - in Letter's JRRT mentions often how essential and beyond description the value and sacredness of 'light'. So my guess is this is a very Maiar function, in this time, as he does not even address he physical body (hroa) of Théoden, but *seems* to be dealing with issues of the fea instead.
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TORn AMATEUR SYMPOSIUM Day Five- The Lord of the Rings topics TORn Amateur Symposium Send a private message to TORn Amateur Symposium Jul 25 2013, 7:30am
    Subthread for "Intuition in The Lord of the Ring" by Lothwen// TORn Amateur Symposium Send a private message to TORn Amateur Symposium Jul 25 2013, 7:32am
        I'm trying to think whether or not ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 25 2013, 10:57am
            Funnily enough, Lothwen Send a private message to Lothwen Jul 25 2013, 12:32pm
        A theme of hope, Lothwen! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 1:32pm
            Thanks Brethil! Lothwen Send a private message to Lothwen Jul 25 2013, 4:34pm
        Saruman as contrast? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 25 2013, 2:45pm
            Saruman is a great contrast! Lothwen Send a private message to Lothwen Jul 25 2013, 4:33pm
            Great contrast Furincurunir! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 4:38pm
            Logic Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 25 2013, 5:09pm
                Good analysis of Sarumans (faulty) reasoning noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 25 2013, 6:10pm
                    Besting Power with Power Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 26 2013, 3:50am
        Very much enjoyed reading this Lothwen elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 25 2013, 8:59pm
    Subthread for "Would You Destroy It?" by RangerfromtheNorth// TORn Amateur Symposium Send a private message to TORn Amateur Symposium Jul 25 2013, 7:34am
        Very well written and interesting essay RangerfromtheNorth DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 25 2013, 11:51am
            Frodo was 'meant' to have it Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 1:50pm
                Spot on Brethil rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 25 2013, 2:05pm
                    Eru's role Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 2:35pm
        Great Thoughts! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 25 2013, 2:13pm
            great questions rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 25 2013, 2:25pm
                I just remembered!!! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 25 2013, 2:36pm
                    Morgoth and Sauron: power in Arda Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 4:36pm
                        Sauron shifted incarnated forms too... rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 25 2013, 4:38pm
                            Very true Ranger Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 4:42pm
                                interesting... rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 25 2013, 4:56pm
                                    No - you are quite correct! Was merely veering wildly into philosophy there...! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 5:12pm
                Regarding power... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jul 25 2013, 11:06pm
                    The KIND of power the Ring embodies is particularly harmful noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 26 2013, 10:15am
                        Could it contemplate that? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 26 2013, 8:52pm
                            Probably not…which means… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 27 2013, 7:41am
                                Ego and temptation Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 27 2013, 2:57pm
                                    Sam is the only ringbearer… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 27 2013, 5:41pm
                                        I think it would have Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 28 2013, 1:00am
                                            The Ring's 2nd offer to Sam would be off, too… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 28 2013, 9:08pm
                                                So what do you think Offer #3 would be? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 28 2013, 9:35pm
                                                    The Ring's #3 offer to Sam noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 29 2013, 10:36am
                        Wizard and brethil... I wanted to include a section on Sam and the Ring rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 29 2013, 4:06pm
                            All great points Ranger Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 29 2013, 6:39pm
                            Oh, that's the #3 offer? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 29 2013, 6:48pm
                                Sneaky is right! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 29 2013, 7:27pm
                            Big subject - no problem that you couldn't cover everything noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 29 2013, 8:25pm
            Lost ring, undiminished power? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 26 2013, 9:36am
        Would, could... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 25 2013, 4:05pm
        Well thought out sevilodorf Send a private message to sevilodorf Jul 26 2013, 2:30am
            desire yes and source of power rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 29 2013, 4:09pm
                I agree here Ranger! Well put too Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 29 2013, 6:16pm
            On your "slight disagreement" rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 30 2013, 2:49am
        Great analysis Ranger! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 26 2013, 6:17am
            great questions, here are my answers rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jul 29 2013, 4:21pm
        What about mortality? Terazed Send a private message to Terazed Jul 27 2013, 2:53pm
            To be more concise Terazed Send a private message to Terazed Jul 27 2013, 3:29pm
                Great metaphor here Terazed! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 27 2013, 3:57pm
                Bravo, Terazed! Another really interesting observation. // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 27 2013, 5:38pm
    Subthread for "Concepts of Healing in The Lord of the Rings" by Elaen32// TORn Amateur Symposium Send a private message to TORn Amateur Symposium Jul 25 2013, 7:35am
        Elves and healing DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 25 2013, 11:10am
            I think that the Elves ... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 25 2013, 8:29pm
                This sounds very much like something JRRT would have believed for the Elves Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 10:14pm
                    Use withOUT domination, cooperation without control. Symbiotic versus exploitive. Beautiful sentiment Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 11:23pm
        A rich and complex topic Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 2:12pm
            "Let the boy win his spurs" noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 25 2013, 4:28pm
                Yes, I agree (see my post just upthread) elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 25 2013, 8:46pm
            I agree... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 25 2013, 8:41pm
        Kust one short note: sador Send a private message to sador Aug 1 2013, 11:53am
            Great parallel! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Aug 2 2013, 12:00am
                A theme which turns up elsewhere noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Aug 2 2013, 10:39am
                    Another great parallel Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Aug 2 2013, 3:21pm
                        Let me know when I get to the 49th parallel // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Aug 2 2013, 3:29pm
                            'K my dear! I'll wake you when you get to Paris! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Aug 2 2013, 7:11pm

 
 
 

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