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Brethil
Half-elven
Jul 20 2013, 3:49pm
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…a chivalrous obligation to defend them; the pull of family ties; opportunities for Turin to prove his great worth. He's not very interested in them as people. or anyone else; male, female, elf, "Man", dwarf. That very indifference is a turn-on for some people. Turin would also be a magnet to rescue fantasists. Then he's also handsome, we learn, and a prince. The Sil is so brief on dialogue - in CoH we see more interaction between Finduilas and Turin. He is a sweet and caring 'friend' who asks her advice and clearly likes her - but does not seem to have a clue as to her feelings for him. It doesn't seem like he is open or receptive to any female attention until he meets Niniel - utterly abandoned, silent...he names her, rescues her. Does that finally give him the sense of utter unity and heroism that he seeks?
Coming soon!- The first TORn Amateur Symposium, starts Sunday 21st July in the Reading Room. Closing date for essay submission Sunday 14th July, but even if you don't submit, join us for some interesting discussion on some different and personal ways of looking at Tolkien's work.
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Sil discussion of Turin Turambar: Dwarves, Doriath and Doomed Women
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Brethil
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Jul 19 2013, 3:56am
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Doriath - of Thingol and Melian in the tale of Turin
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Brethil
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Jul 19 2013, 3:58am
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Doomed women and Turin
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Brethil
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Jul 19 2013, 4:06am
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I think Turin sees women in the abstract…
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noWizardme
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Jul 20 2013, 7:37am
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Excellent observations, Wiz
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CuriousG
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Jul 20 2013, 1:33pm
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That in itself is often appealing
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Brethil
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Jul 20 2013, 3:52pm
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That's possible
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Brethil
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Jul 20 2013, 3:49pm
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Turin and his fangirls....
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elaen32
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Jul 20 2013, 2:09pm
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Very good points here
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Brethil
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Jul 20 2013, 3:58pm
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Doom is not a pretty thing
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CuriousG
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Jul 20 2013, 5:24pm
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Turin and Nienor
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Terazed
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Jul 21 2013, 1:02am
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Many thanks for that background information
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CuriousG
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Jul 23 2013, 1:32am
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Early drafting makes Turin different
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 2:05am
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The end, result, the Sil as a collection of tales in varying styles...
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noWizardme
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Jul 23 2013, 3:02pm
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Excellent question - I wonder too
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 7:06pm
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I think JRRT would have gone with a rougher style
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Terazed
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Jul 23 2013, 8:41pm
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Welcome Terazed. Glad you can join us! //
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noWizardme
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Jul 23 2013, 9:11pm
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Thanks Terazed!
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 1:48am
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Turin and Nienor...oops I forgot to put in the Sigmund Signy summery
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Terazed
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Jul 23 2013, 8:54pm
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Wow! By comparison, Game of Thrones is genteel! //
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noWizardme
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Jul 23 2013, 9:15pm
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Thanks Terazed!
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 9:20pm
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Just a simple sowing and baking test
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Terazed
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Jul 24 2013, 3:46am
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I concur Terazed!
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Brethil
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Jul 24 2013, 4:40am
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Kids these days are too soft
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CuriousG
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Jul 24 2013, 5:28pm
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A Northern European version of Cinderella
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elaen32
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Jul 24 2013, 9:34pm
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Not the Disney approved version!
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Rembrethil
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Jul 24 2013, 9:36pm
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A lot of fairy stories
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Silverlode
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Jul 24 2013, 9:47pm
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Yeah, the children back then saw some pretty gruesome things too...
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Rembrethil
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Jul 24 2013, 9:50pm
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Nienor's sadness: foresight or impurity?
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Brethil
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Jul 21 2013, 1:51am
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Yet another rambling of thoughts....
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Rembrethil
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Jul 22 2013, 3:10pm
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Turin finding Niniel
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 12:44am
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Love triangle
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CuriousG
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Jul 23 2013, 1:15am
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What is particularly ironic for poor Niniel and Turin
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Riven Delve
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Jul 23 2013, 12:07pm
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I am blown away by the wonderful analysis in each posting to this thread
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ltnjmy
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Jul 23 2013, 2:40pm
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As always, thanks for the kind words! Glad to see you! //
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 4:53pm
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Jump right in, ltnjmy! Only the super-cockroaches bite. (I think.) ;) //
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Riven Delve
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Jul 24 2013, 1:23am
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I think I've started something!
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Rembrethil
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Jul 24 2013, 1:51am
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"Little stones start an avalanche"...hopefully not of Super-cockroaches. //
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Brethil
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Jul 24 2013, 2:14am
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Thank you, Itnjmy! //
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CuriousG
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Jul 24 2013, 5:23pm
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Cousins - troublesome cousins!
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 3:30pm
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Turin/Tuor
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Riven Delve
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Jul 24 2013, 1:36am
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I enjoy the what-ifs too R-D
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Brethil
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Jul 24 2013, 2:10am
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Doriath matters!
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elaen32
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Jul 20 2013, 1:52pm
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Galadriel wearing the pants - sort of
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Brethil
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Jul 20 2013, 4:06pm
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Pride and Prejudice
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CuriousG
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Jul 20 2013, 5:04pm
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Those Doriath folks...
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Brethil
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Jul 21 2013, 1:45am
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Thoughts on Doriath
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Rembrethil
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Jul 20 2013, 5:57pm
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Psychic war
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Brethil
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Jul 21 2013, 1:55am
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Empathy from the devil
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noWizardme
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Jul 21 2013, 7:19am
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Some thoughts on an Unseen World connection
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Rembrethil
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Jul 23 2013, 4:48pm
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Elves and the Petty-dwarves
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Elthir
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Jul 19 2013, 11:07am
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Thanks for putting that up Elthir!
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Brethil
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Jul 19 2013, 1:35pm
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Some thoughts
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Rembrethil
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Jul 20 2013, 4:00pm
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Thoughts continued....
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Rembrethil
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Jul 20 2013, 5:41pm
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Thoughts on Dwarves back Rembrethil
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Brethil
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Jul 21 2013, 1:23am
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Petty behavior
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CuriousG
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Jul 20 2013, 4:42pm
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On the hunt
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squire
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Jul 20 2013, 9:01pm
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Hunting trees and hewing beasts
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Elthir
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Jul 20 2013, 11:49pm
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Petty Dwarves
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Brethil
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Jul 21 2013, 1:38am
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"let us hunt some Dwarf! - CUT! It's 'hunt some ORC , Viggo!"
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PhantomS
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Jul 21 2013, 2:26pm
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Nice metaphor here Phantom
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Brethil
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Jul 22 2013, 1:54am
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About petty dwarves...
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Riven Delve
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Jul 22 2013, 7:06pm
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A layman's two cents
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Rembrethil
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Jul 22 2013, 7:56pm
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Rembrethil, that was worth at least a quarter--
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Riven Delve
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Jul 22 2013, 11:48pm
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I would reply to you
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CuriousG
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Jul 23 2013, 1:02am
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Debug it. //
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 1:03am
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We, the roaches, are in control now. You threaten to kill us? We have kin in your house...//
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CuriousG
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Jul 23 2013, 1:16am
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(*puzzled*) Yeah, the roaches were here...
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 11:10pm
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Drift and banishment
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Brethil
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Jul 22 2013, 8:55pm
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Mim's unlovely trait
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Riven Delve
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Jul 22 2013, 11:37pm
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Oh yeah - those too!!!! //
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 12:57am
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A humorous Observation
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Rembrethil
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Jul 23 2013, 4:54pm
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We have Orcrist the Goblin-biter...and Mim the knee-biter.
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 5:10pm
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Plus Tailbiter from Farmer Giles… //
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noWizardme
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Jul 23 2013, 7:36pm
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"Lembas-biter" might be a nice Dwarven barb at an Elf I suppose.//
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Brethil
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Jul 23 2013, 9:21pm
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