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boldog
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Jul 10 2013, 8:36am
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maybe my mate misinterpreted it, and perhaps the balrog isn't gothmog, but durins bane instead? but clearly he did say that it WAS gothmog..
"fingolfin looked up in grief to see what evil morgoth had done to maedhros"
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gondolin themes in the hobbit!? SPOILERS MAJOR
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boldog
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Jul 10 2013, 5:14am
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No hate, certainly, but some incredulity.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 10 2013, 5:50am
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So Durin's Bane has been dropped in favour of Gothmog, Lord of the Balrogs???
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Eleniel
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Jul 10 2013, 6:30am
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Hmmmmm
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The Mitch King
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Jul 10 2013, 6:39am
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That sounds potentially awesome, the ONLY real problem being that Smaug was supposedly young when he
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 10 2013, 6:49am
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as i said.....
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boldog
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Jul 10 2013, 7:32am
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If they avoid naming Gothmog or Ecthellion they might be able to do it, since the Fall of Gondolin is mentioned in various places.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 10 2013, 7:40am
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Why would you name the confidential source?
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Eruonen
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Jul 10 2013, 7:35pm
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Jackson does have rights to the names, just not their stories from the Silmarillion, Lost Tales, etc..
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Salmacis81
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Jul 11 2013, 1:02am
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Does Elrond mention Gondolin
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ElendilTheShort
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Jul 11 2013, 2:23am
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Yes, he does. Indeed, those are his exact words.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 11 2013, 5:44am
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Gondolin References
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vexx801
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Jul 15 2013, 8:17pm
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It is also worth noting that, while the name in connection with its original owner is off limits, Gothmog
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 16 2013, 6:43am
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This would be the flashback to end all flashbacks
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Shagrat
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Jul 10 2013, 8:15am
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gothmog or durins bane?
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boldog
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Jul 10 2013, 8:36am
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No, it's not true (unfortunately, or forunately).
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DanielLB
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Jul 10 2013, 9:32am
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"They haven't built a set for Gondolin".
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Moahunter
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Jul 10 2013, 11:14pm
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"Daniel has no source, Daniel needs no source"
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DanielLB
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Jul 11 2013, 12:56am
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And all that greenscreen could obviate the need for a set. But this is too serious a matter.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 11 2013, 5:50am
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You know this? How?
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 11 2013, 12:29am
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mixed bag
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TFP
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Jul 10 2013, 9:39am
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Pretty skeptical
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dave_lf
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Jul 10 2013, 11:22am
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I really doubt that its true (sorry, a bit of hate...this is supposed to be a film about a hobbit in the third age not first age fan fiction...)
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 11:24am
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Reminds me of an inside joke I share with my brother (who is also a Tolkien fan)
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Salmacis81
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Jul 10 2013, 11:49am
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Don't Give Him ideas!
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 12:04pm
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Hey be fair Christopher
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burgahobbit
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Jul 10 2013, 2:09pm
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lol
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KingTurgon
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Jul 11 2013, 8:18pm
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Ahhhhhhh
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Lusitano
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Jul 10 2013, 12:42pm
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I think its a bit of a stretch to say the appendices stuff was in the appendices anyway, so I wouldn't put it past PJ and co to do something like this
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 12:57pm
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Sure
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Lusitano
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Jul 10 2013, 1:13pm
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Don't get me wrong, I'm against the idea
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 1:32pm
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Agreed
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Lusitano
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Jul 10 2013, 2:43pm
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I don't want to see any more of Tolkien's work adapted
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 2:59pm
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I agree
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Elessar
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Jul 10 2013, 3:06pm
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Children of Hurin
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AncalagontheBlack
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Jul 10 2013, 3:10pm
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It's a bit more structured that's for sure
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Elessar
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Jul 10 2013, 3:13pm
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Yes that's true...
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 3:16pm
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I would be interested in seeing more adaptations
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Lusitano
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Jul 10 2013, 3:40pm
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I just found this old thread on tolkeinforums-apparently Smaug could have been in the fall of gondolin
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malickfan
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Jul 10 2013, 11:44am
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Cool! //
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burgahobbit
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Jul 10 2013, 2:10pm
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Well guys....
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BornOutOfTheWest
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Jul 10 2013, 12:38pm
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I guess...
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Rostron2
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Jul 10 2013, 5:18pm
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NOTHING surprises me anymore
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Sinister71
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Jul 10 2013, 5:28pm
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All I can say is
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bungobaggins
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Jul 10 2013, 5:40pm
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Ha
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Lusitano
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Jul 10 2013, 9:14pm
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If it wasn't called The Hobbit?
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Lothwen
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Jul 11 2013, 12:48pm
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Thats right
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Sinister71
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Jul 11 2013, 4:50pm
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glad for the expansion
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AncalagontheBlack
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Jul 11 2013, 5:20pm
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Video of the discussion
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Rostron2
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Jul 10 2013, 5:50pm
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Wouldn't the fall of Gondolin just be the fall of Erebor X 1000?
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Captain Salt
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Jul 10 2013, 11:47pm
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It comes from The Book of Lost Tales
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Ardamírë
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Jul 11 2013, 12:04am
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As I think on it, certain aspects of this are very plausible.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 11 2013, 12:29am
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great post!
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architecthis
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Jul 11 2013, 1:11pm
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Nice post; one small correction
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 11 2013, 1:37pm
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Right you are. I actually meant to quote The Hobbit.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 12 2013, 5:22am
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My thoughts exactly...
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GoBlue
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Jul 11 2013, 4:31am
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Wait, wait, wait. Neither Ecthellion nor any other Elf of any distinction or calibur EVER slew more than one Balrog, and none of those Elves survived.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 11 2013, 5:56am
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Book of Lost Tales, Vol. 2
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GoBlue
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Jul 11 2013, 12:11pm
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actually
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GoBlue
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Jul 11 2013, 12:49pm
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I love the BOLT Fall of Gondolin
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ElendilTheShort
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Jul 11 2013, 6:22pm
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I think much of the fall can remain intact, and would, even if Christopher or his father himself were to revise it for publication as a part of the legendarium rather
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 12 2013, 5:20am
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It was, I believe, the very first
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Ardamírë
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Jul 11 2013, 1:53pm
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Exactly. The book of lost tales, in which Christopher Tolkien releases an unaltered draft of the 1917 -1920
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 12 2013, 5:15am
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"Rights"? We don't need no stinkin' "rights" . . .
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g-stormcrow
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Jul 11 2013, 6:32am
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