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Arathorn
Bree
Dec 19 2007, 5:11pm
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I, Sir, am no dude. There are a few dozens of sentences relating to the time between Hobbit and LOTR. Just how could anyone not consider that a full story, a 2+h movie about this is anything else than fanfiction is beyond my understanding - even a movie plot description, a sales pitch, could be longer than that. Heck, if anyone else than Rowling wrote tens of pages about the bitter-ending story between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, it would be considered fanfic without any doubt, by the fans themselves. As for this having been demander by many fans (all the 42 of you), that's no justification at all. I mean, many of us had requested for months that PJ included the notorious bathing scene with Galadriel, Arwen and Eowyn, yet despite the plea of thousands of male fans, we asked in vain. And when you see what Tolkien actually thought about fanfiction and writing anything on Middle-Earth, be it post-Sauron Aragorn's rule or anything else... - though I don't have the Letters here at the office, so I can't directly quote him. Then, the other problem, on a completely different level, is that it's close to impossible to have one major story here without dliuting it with numerous sub-plots and passing mentions. So, sure, taking all the Tolkien-referenced events and details about all the characters would be nice, but only die-hard fans would have any interest in that. I'm not sure if they would go the fan.pleasing way - putting as much references as possible, dissolving most of the story - or the more commercial one, and coming up with a good deal of the whole story out of thin air (I suspect the latter). Last but not least - but of course people here around are well aware of this -, is that there's a risk if PJ isn't directing this all. Particularly if he isn't directing the "sequel" - and I'd even say, particularly if Boyens and Walsh aren't co-writing the script (they would make mostly fanfic, but at least, one that would be coherent with all their additions and changes of LOTR movies, and coherent with the overall style and tone of the movies, but if they pick someone else, it wouldn't be that coherent with Tolkien nor with the LOTR movies we like). All in all, as I said before, a Hobbit movie can be a good thing, notably if PJ is massively involved in its making - and can be far riskier quality-wise if he's not -, and I'm quite glad it can be done - even if I would have preferred that the whole team who did LOTR did Hobbit, each taking back its previous role. But a "sequel" sounded first as a joke to me when I first read such fan-made speculations years ago, and I still am of the opinion that it is definitely a bad idea. (I suppose I should toss a "well, I'm back" somewhere up there)
"Gods don't like people not doing much work. People who aren't busy all the time may start to think." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
(This post was edited by Arathorn on Dec 19 2007, 5:12pm)
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What does a “sequel” mean?
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maegwen
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Dec 19 2007, 5:16am
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It depends on who the movie follows
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Arwen's daughter
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Dec 19 2007, 5:37am
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A two or three-hour film adapted from a couple thousand words?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 5:46am
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Possibly correct
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Corvar
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Dec 19 2007, 1:32pm
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Good question
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squire
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Dec 19 2007, 5:52am
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Aragorn/Thorongil would have to be the focal point, I judge.
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Curious
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Dec 19 2007, 6:18am
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Would that influence the Hobbit?
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Arwen's daughter
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Dec 19 2007, 6:44am
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It needn't.
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Curious
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Dec 19 2007, 8:11am
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There you go.
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Patty
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Dec 19 2007, 6:30pm
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"Black Arrow!" cried Aragorn. "I had you from my exiled royal father, and he from..."
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squire
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Dec 19 2007, 12:31pm
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yes, the story of Thorongil (Aragorn)
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rewand
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Dec 20 2007, 2:59pm
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Elrond is protective of Arwen in Appendix A.
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Curious
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Dec 20 2007, 4:54pm
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OK, brooding and controlling Elrond
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rewand
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Dec 21 2007, 10:01pm
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My money is on Gandalf
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SandWitch King
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Dec 19 2007, 6:23am
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No romance. And Gandalf did most of that
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Curious
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Dec 19 2007, 6:31am
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Except for the affair with Arwen, of course.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 6:36am
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Ew ew ew ew ew.
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Ataahua
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Dec 19 2007, 8:25am
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Yes but . . .
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SandWitch King
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Dec 19 2007, 6:48am
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I can't WAIT to see what they do with this!
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grammaboodawg
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Dec 19 2007, 12:55pm
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You make a good case for a broader approach.
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Curious
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Dec 19 2007, 3:22pm
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I'm thinking either Thorongil or Dol Guldur
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Ainu Laire
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Dec 19 2007, 4:05pm
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anyone think that
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AbsintheFaerie
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Dec 19 2007, 5:52am
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What is Tom due exactly?
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MrCere
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Dec 19 2007, 5:54am
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One possible scenario
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maegwen
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Dec 19 2007, 5:58am
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"Over the course of three nights and two days Bombadil initiates the hobbits..."
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 6:12am
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Excellent but . . .
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SandWitch King
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Dec 19 2007, 6:20am
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Why do you think so?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 6:29am
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i agree about bombadil
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AbsintheFaerie
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Dec 19 2007, 6:58am
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A filmmaker has to pick and choose...
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 7:18am
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another idea...
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AbsintheFaerie
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Dec 19 2007, 7:26am
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Hmmmm
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SandWitch King
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Dec 19 2007, 4:34pm
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The hobbits are silly too.
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Curious
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Dec 19 2007, 5:19pm
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Split The Hobbit into two parts?
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Nazger
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Dec 19 2007, 7:19am
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Director/s
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Corvar
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Dec 19 2007, 1:27pm
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Contradictions!
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Nazger
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Dec 19 2007, 7:29am
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Sequel?
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Arathorn
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Dec 19 2007, 9:13am
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About this "bridge" movie
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merklynn
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Dec 19 2007, 3:21pm
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hey
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_V_
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Dec 19 2007, 3:24pm
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linker
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_V_
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Dec 19 2007, 3:25pm
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Fan fic
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merklynn
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Dec 19 2007, 3:31pm
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It is fan fiction
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Ainu Laire
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Dec 19 2007, 4:08pm
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Fanfiction?
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Lunamoth
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Dec 19 2007, 4:18pm
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The film, yes. The script, though?
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Ainu Laire
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Dec 19 2007, 4:25pm
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Well
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Arathorn
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Dec 19 2007, 5:11pm
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Do not see it that way
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hasufel
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Dec 19 2007, 6:03pm
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And about time too.
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Ataahua
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Dec 19 2007, 6:40pm
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Hello!
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Ainu Laire
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Dec 19 2007, 3:55pm
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In response to the Hobbit Sequel...
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TomBomb
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Dec 19 2007, 7:57pm
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Treasure in Bree?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 8:29pm
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Bree-Dale
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TomBomb
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Dec 19 2007, 10:48pm
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Three of the thirteen dwarves...
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 11:09pm
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Jeez, could you at least give a spoiler alert?!
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visualweasel
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Dec 20 2007, 5:53pm
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It looks like there are too many stories with not enough substance.
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GaladrielTX
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Dec 19 2007, 2:03pm
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Like the Animatrix?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 8:07pm
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I suspect it would be more along the lines of Trilogy of Terror. /
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GaladrielTX
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Dec 19 2007, 11:28pm
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more
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_V_
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Dec 19 2007, 3:20pm
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Sequel
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ginapsu
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Dec 19 2007, 5:49pm
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This PJ bridge movie thing is not going to work .. but I can think of what will.
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oldfan
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Dec 19 2007, 8:04pm
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I think PJ could be considered a real fan
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merklynn
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Dec 19 2007, 9:05pm
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umm
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oldfan
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Dec 19 2007, 9:30pm
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The lawsuit was...
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 9:55pm
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Maybe it would work...
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BG
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Dec 19 2007, 9:30pm
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it will work
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oldfan
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Dec 19 2007, 9:42pm
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"Notes on Dwarven Engineering" by Reverend.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2007, 10:01pm
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it might be a good idea if done well
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makonix
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Dec 21 2007, 12:23am
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The Prequel to The Hobbit
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simoncito
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Dec 21 2007, 12:29am
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Ergo
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simoncito
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Dec 21 2007, 12:38am
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Sequel means none of those things...
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dvanwechel
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Dec 24 2007, 2:36pm
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One book told over two movies
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Dunadan
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Dec 27 2007, 4:45pm
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One book told over two movies
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Mortimus
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Dec 29 2007, 5:24am
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