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Brethil
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Apr 20 2013, 10:31pm
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Nice historical reference NoWiz
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It does have that 'political' feel to it, using the identified problem in utilitarian fashion to get what you want, and having everyone buy it. I tend to think from Henry's bios that the usefulness of Protestantism was the defining factor, although he might even convince himself otherwise in later years. (And oddly enough - Anne Boleyn wasn't that much to look at..) It was a perfect storm of growing dissent and the Elf-lightning known as Feanor.
Like our Feanor, Henry's plans backfired too, in that case.
Manwe, when asked a simple "Yes" or "No" question, contemplated, and responded "the middle one."
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Rivendell 0 secs ago **Silmarillion Discussion 2013, Part 3 of Chapter 9: Of The Flight of the Noldor
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 9:52am
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"Rivendell 0 secs ago ?"
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 10:48am
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LOL!
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dernwyn
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Apr 19 2013, 5:02pm
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Coming to you Live from the House of Elrond! //
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 5:10pm
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Yes, Keep it! I Love the **LIVE** Rivendell broadcasts!!!!
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Brethil
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Apr 19 2013, 5:20pm
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But, Dernwyn, I think you should at least give noWiz points for effort. Promote him to Valinor! :) //
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CuriousG
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Apr 19 2013, 11:46pm
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I can't send him to Valinor...
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dernwyn
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Apr 20 2013, 12:45am
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Cookies. Yum. This is a website cookie policy I can relate to!//
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noWizardme
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Apr 20 2013, 6:50am
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I wondered if you were trying to link to the movie "Zero Dark Thirty" //
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CuriousG
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Apr 19 2013, 10:51pm
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Feanor Vs The Valar, and Flying Elves (not the circus act....)
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Brethil
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Apr 19 2013, 5:15pm
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Feanor's fallacious demagoguery
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 5:54pm
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So true, and timeless vs allergorical
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Brethil
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Apr 19 2013, 7:58pm
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timeless behaviors which translated and could be reverse-engineered into mythos
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 8:17pm
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Look out, honey, the kids have grown up
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CuriousG
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Apr 20 2013, 2:54am
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Nice take on the Oath! And about those craftsmen types...
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Brethil
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Apr 20 2013, 4:02am
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A King Henry VIII moment?
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noWizardme
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Apr 20 2013, 7:26am
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Hijacking the public mood
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CuriousG
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Apr 20 2013, 5:21pm
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Nice historical reference NoWiz
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Brethil
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Apr 20 2013, 10:31pm
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Drumroll please
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Finwe
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Apr 19 2013, 5:52pm
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Great analysis Finwe!
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Brethil
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Apr 19 2013, 5:58pm
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I agree- entirely convincing that Manwe sees Feanor as one bad apple, and is completely behind on Elven politics. //
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noWizardme
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Apr 19 2013, 7:35pm
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some objections to the criticism against the Valar and Manwë
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elostirion74
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Apr 22 2013, 6:56pm
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You make some eloquent points here Elostirion; some thoughts in return
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Brethil
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Apr 23 2013, 1:25am
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In the end, it all happens too fast...to manage "hasty" we need Treebeard, not Feanor...
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noWizardme
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Apr 23 2013, 9:24am
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some answers
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elostirion74
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Apr 23 2013, 11:37pm
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So true Elostirion - a fascinating study in the brothers
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Brethil
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Apr 23 2013, 11:58pm
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drum roll well deserved (followed by cymbal crash!)
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telain
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Apr 19 2013, 11:26pm
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Great job with Manwe
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CuriousG
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Apr 20 2013, 3:21am
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Haha. Manwe does make me rub my temples some times...
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Brethil
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Apr 20 2013, 10:23pm
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Great finale, noWiz.
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CuriousG
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Apr 20 2013, 2:33am
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Feanor, monkey paw, Macbeth
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noWizardme
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Apr 21 2013, 10:24am
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What if's for this chapter
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CuriousG
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Apr 21 2013, 6:50pm
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What if Feanor and sons set out as knights errant on a quest to revenge Finwe, not dragging their whole people along? //
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noWizardme
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Apr 21 2013, 7:27pm
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Feanor and sons as knights...
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Brethil
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Apr 21 2013, 8:05pm
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Oathless knights... Much nicer
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noWizardme
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Apr 21 2013, 8:11pm
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Nicer but dead much sooner, if it was just 8 of them vs. Morgoth. //
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CuriousG
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Apr 21 2013, 9:42pm
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**rubbing hands** meaty questions.....!
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Brethil
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Apr 21 2013, 8:02pm
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Yes, Feanor seems doomed no matter what the what if is
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CuriousG
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Apr 21 2013, 9:56pm
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I originally suggested an "any other business" thread - do we need it?
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noWizardme
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Apr 21 2013, 8:02pm
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The Oath in full
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CuriousG
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Apr 21 2013, 10:56pm
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Feanor's Oath
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Brethil
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Apr 22 2013, 12:13am
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Aha
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CuriousG
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Apr 22 2013, 12:25am
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As I've posted below
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sador
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Apr 24 2013, 7:17am
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Thnak you for clarifying Sador!
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Brethil
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Apr 24 2013, 2:19pm
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Woah! That's proper swearing - do we know why it was cut? //
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noWizardme
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Apr 22 2013, 1:49pm
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Voronwe raised this question on the last time we've discussed this chapter.
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sador
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Apr 22 2013, 3:58pm
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What I keep meaning to do....
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noWizardme
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Apr 22 2013, 4:11pm
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Manwe's leadership
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elostirion74
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Apr 22 2013, 6:04am
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Chapter 10 is up
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Finwe
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Apr 22 2013, 2:20pm
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Answers - part 1
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sador
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Apr 23 2013, 2:20pm
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Answers - part 2
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sador
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Apr 24 2013, 8:00am
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maciliel-thoughts
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Maciliel
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Apr 28 2013, 4:00pm
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Not answers - but more questions!
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sador
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Apr 29 2013, 9:09am
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to be fair, i +did+ posit some answers
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Maciliel
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Apr 29 2013, 11:51am
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Involving the gods in dark deeds
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noWizardme
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Apr 29 2013, 2:30pm
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a girl is still patrolling
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Maciliel
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Apr 29 2013, 4:23pm
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if a man wishes
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Maciliel
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May 1 2013, 11:29am
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It is good to know these things
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noWizardme
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May 2 2013, 3:30pm
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Oaths - on endless repeat?
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Brethil
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Apr 30 2013, 8:56pm
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